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Is this believable story from new date?

51 replies

Pineappleskies · 05/10/2022 17:00

He says:

His ex girlfriend had a history of depression. An art graduate, she struggled to hold down any job for long. He supported her financially.

During lockdown she had a complete breakdown, left her job, repeatedly called him at work having a mental health crisis meaning he had to leave work (this last point has been verified by a mutual friend).

In the end he couldn't cope with her mental health. He broke up with her two weeks ago, joined Tinder and is now on a date with me.

His only other serious ex developed depression and put on a large amount of weight after they married.

Why do I think his behaviour is contributing to these women's issues?

OP posts:
CornishTiger · 05/10/2022 17:34

Within 2 weeks he’s on tinder and on a date. Nice bloke

LemonDrop22 · 05/10/2022 17:34

I dated a guy who had a couple of interesting exes.

One was apparently insecure, jealous, volatile when drinking etc. One apparently got a really angry, psycho look in her eyes on occasion.

After a few months dating him, I knew exactly why woman a was acting the way she was, and I have no doubt I shared the same angry, "psycho" look in my eyes on numerous occasions. He was/is a fucking dementor.

He actually had the slyness not to slag his exes off to me for the first while though. Probably because he was mid 40s and it was far from his first rodeo.

It's probably a good thing this guy doesn't even have enough guile to do that. He's telling you straight off "I'm going to fuck your head up"

ThatsTheWayIHikeIt · 05/10/2022 17:36

You do know you're his next mentally unwell ex? How do you fancy knowing he'll be sharing sensitive and intimate things about you soon enough? I've been married a loooong time and we have hardly ever spoken about any exes - what's the point? It's just boring.

TheVanguardSix · 05/10/2022 17:36

Broke up two weeks ago.
Signed up to Tinder.
Do I need to type louder, OP or can you hear me over the alarm bells?
Get your skates on. Hills are that way >>>> 🚩🚩🚩 and all the other MN safety drills. Just chucking ‘em all in your direction.

LemonDrop22 · 05/10/2022 17:38

CheekyHobson · 05/10/2022 17:31

Yeah, I would be hearing:

  • Don’t develop mental health issues, I won’t be there for you
  • Don’t on weight, I don’t like that
  • I’m two weeks out of a relationship and don’t want to spend any time getting over it or reflecting on myself
  • I’m spending the very early dates with a new woman establishing myself as both a hero and a victim (major red flag for covert narcissism)

It would be a hard swerve from me.

Perfect summary.

hugefanofcheese · 05/10/2022 17:41

CheekyHobson · 05/10/2022 17:31

Yeah, I would be hearing:

  • Don’t develop mental health issues, I won’t be there for you
  • Don’t on weight, I don’t like that
  • I’m two weeks out of a relationship and don’t want to spend any time getting over it or reflecting on myself
  • I’m spending the very early dates with a new woman establishing myself as both a hero and a victim (major red flag for covert narcissism)

It would be a hard swerve from me.

Yes this plus I will share any personal information about you with all and sundry. I'd be put off.

SarahAndQuack · 05/10/2022 17:44

I agree - it's weird, and a big red flag, that he's feeling the need to tell you these things.

carvela · 05/10/2022 17:46

CheekyHobson · 05/10/2022 17:31

Yeah, I would be hearing:

  • Don’t develop mental health issues, I won’t be there for you
  • Don’t on weight, I don’t like that
  • I’m two weeks out of a relationship and don’t want to spend any time getting over it or reflecting on myself
  • I’m spending the very early dates with a new woman establishing myself as both a hero and a victim (major red flag for covert narcissism)

It would be a hard swerve from me.

Yes!

PetalParty · 05/10/2022 17:54

CheekyHobson · 05/10/2022 17:31

Yeah, I would be hearing:

  • Don’t develop mental health issues, I won’t be there for you
  • Don’t on weight, I don’t like that
  • I’m two weeks out of a relationship and don’t want to spend any time getting over it or reflecting on myself
  • I’m spending the very early dates with a new woman establishing myself as both a hero and a victim (major red flag for covert narcissism)

It would be a hard swerve from me.

Neal. On. Head.

ScurryfungeMaster · 05/10/2022 18:11

If I went on a first date and the guy spent the whole time talking about his ex girlfriends then I wouldn't be having a second date and even worse is that he was sharing their personal struggles in what sounds like a gleeful manner. I'd run for the hills if I were you tbh

mansviewpoint · 05/10/2022 18:24

Given his last two girlfriends it's quite likely he's a narcissist and will be all fantastic for the first 4 months. Then there will be the slight digs which you won't even notice. Also you don't fancy him at all, you fancy his body. You don't fall for someone's mind in a feew minutes.

TwoWrightFeet · 05/10/2022 18:29

Sounds like he attracts unstable women.

allura · 05/10/2022 18:42

TwoWrightFeet · 05/10/2022 18:29

Sounds like he attracts unstable women.

Or creates them

PetalParty · 05/10/2022 18:44

He certainly abandons people the moment they have a problem. Keep that in mind.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 05/10/2022 18:48

I’d be depressed too if someone I was intimate with shared my private info with randoms on Tinder two weeks after a breakup. How awful for the poor women. He’s a stirrer if nothing else. No discretion. I can’t stand people who do this with other people’s info.

Pineappleskies · 05/10/2022 22:44

Thanks so much everyone! Our date ended up being interrupted as he had a work call.

We then spoke some more but he couldn't give an insight into anything....friends or exes....it all felt like tales of woe where it was annoying for him how others had fallen to pieces...yet he seemed so incurious about it.

He obviously feels others have let him down on life but he doesn't seem to feel any real curiosity as to why.

OP posts:
goldfinchonthelawn · 05/10/2022 22:51

CheekyHobson · 05/10/2022 17:31

Yeah, I would be hearing:

  • Don’t develop mental health issues, I won’t be there for you
  • Don’t on weight, I don’t like that
  • I’m two weeks out of a relationship and don’t want to spend any time getting over it or reflecting on myself
  • I’m spending the very early dates with a new woman establishing myself as both a hero and a victim (major red flag for covert narcissism)

It would be a hard swerve from me.

Yes, I'd read it that way too.

And then there's he said, "if that hadn't put you off already then ..." told me about end of his marriage.
Which I would interpret as: Let's talk about ME some more while i suss out how much egotism and putting down of exes you will tolerate on what is supposed to be a happy, flirty first meeting where we find out what we have in common.

I wouldn't find that behaviour or mindset remotely sexy.

Frith2013 · 05/10/2022 23:55

Should he be dating again after only a fortnight?

AbcMurders · 06/10/2022 00:21

He sounds a bit creepy tbh

Other posters have summed it up well, does sound like a covert narc with his stories of being a victim

PineOrange · 06/10/2022 00:35

allura · 05/10/2022 18:42

Or creates them

Bang on !

Seriously lacking in emotional intellegence and empathy.

Run.

ganvough · 06/10/2022 00:39

Pineappleskies · 05/10/2022 22:44

Thanks so much everyone! Our date ended up being interrupted as he had a work call.

We then spoke some more but he couldn't give an insight into anything....friends or exes....it all felt like tales of woe where it was annoying for him how others had fallen to pieces...yet he seemed so incurious about it.

He obviously feels others have let him down on life but he doesn't seem to feel any real curiosity as to why.

Pretty heavy for a first date! What a self absorbed man. If you're very very lucky you could be the lucky person who gets to disappoint him next.

You can do better than be a willing audience to this self absorbed fool.

ImustLearn2Cook · 06/10/2022 00:54

TobyEsterhase · 05/10/2022 17:32

My rule is to only discuss exes in vaguest possible terms on Date 1. If someone gave me chapter and verse about their ex then there wouldn't be a Date 2.

That’s a good rule to follow.

In my experience there is usually an agenda to the: my ex was mentally unwell and it was hard for me spiel. Especially in the early days of dating.

expat101 · 06/10/2022 01:25

I'm concerned about the two week break he has had between leaving his former relationship, joining tinder and dating you... if I split from someone who had been special to me I would need a lot longer than that to gather myself, whether I initiated it or not.

Anyhow...

Monty27 · 06/10/2022 01:29

I wouldn't respect him just for divulging his exes' issues or shortcomings while he's trying to look like a saint. It's a massive red flag.

keeprunning55 · 06/10/2022 01:42

Run for the hills!

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