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Does this sound like a narcissist?

26 replies

Bahbahh · 02/10/2022 19:07

I just ended a relationship with my bf of 4 months. He has been diagnosed with cyclothymia (less severe form of bi polar if that makes a difference). From the beginning I was suspicious of his behaviour. After our first date I looked him up on social media and he was exclusively following 19-22 year old women. He’s 43 and I’m 25 for reference. After seeing this I told him I didn’t want anything to do with someone who only followed 20 year olds. His response was to tell me he had feelings for me and that I should give him a chance.

He relentlessly texted me after this and wouldn’t leave me alone. I stupidly agreed to see him again. I would go to his house and he would have gifts for me and flowers every time. I asked him to calm down and suggested he make me stuff instead of buying me stuff because I wasn’t comfortable with it. He would text me constantly, like every couple of minutes. He also claimed that he was the most honest person ever, not capable of lying. He saw himself as extremely honest and important - I think because of his job. He works for an organisation fighting for human rights.

He saw a bruise on my upper thigh and asked me if it was a hickey. I started crying because his eyes, body language, tone of voice changed and I was genuinely scared. He assumed that meant that it was a hickey and I had slept with someone else (we weren’t exclusive at this point). I reassured him that it wasn’t but he didn’t believe me and for the entirety of our relationship he would randomly get upset with me, demand reassurance about it, claim that I was constantly doing things to make him feel unsafe in the relationship.

Anyway fast forward 6 weeks and he tells me he’s been offered a job in Switzerland and he was thinking about not taking it because he loved me and wanted to explore our relationship more. We ended up moving to Europe together and this is where the (bigger) issues began. I will summarise them here.

He was constantly telling me how unsafe I made him feel and I needed to give him excessive amounts of validation and reassurance.

He got upset with me because he got home from work one day and saw that I had worn boots during the day. He assumed this meant I had gone on a date while he was gone and I had to reassure him about how much I loved him and didn’t want anyone else.

I changed the bed sheets one day and he assumed that I had slept with someone else and was trying to hide the evidence. Again I had to reassure him that I only loved him and only wanted him.

He conditioned me to turn my location on for him. Whenever I did it he would praise me so much and tell me no one’s ever done that for him and it made him feel really happy.

He would want sex every single day.
Afterwards he would tell me that sex made him feel safe in the relationship with me. I felt manipulated into having sex everyday because I didn’t want to make him feel unsafe. If he was feeling unsafe we would argue.

We had a massive argument because he asked me if he was the funnest person I’ve ever met and I replied that he’s pretty fun. That wasn’t good enough for him and after a lengthy argument he ended up snatching my phone and slamming it on the bed. This was the first time I saw his anger.

He was paranoid about how I use my phone because I would always close apps when he came in or turn my phone off when he came in the room. I wasn’t hiding anything, I just felt rude being on my phone while he was with me. He told me I needed to put my phone on do not disturb because he didn’t like hearing my notifications. He also had his phone on do not disturb and I said that was more suspicious because I couldn’t see who was texting him.

When I ended up checking his phone I found many young women that he had been messaging including colleagues. Asking them to meet up, bragging about his job or places he’s lived. Almost everything that he had accused me of doing, he was doing himself.

Once I caught him out, it started with only one girl. He promised until he was blue in the face it was only one girl and I shouldn’t feel threatened, he had no intentions of actually meeting up with her because he stopped replying to her. I decided to check his old phone and I found even more.

One thing I will say is that he was open to communication about our relationship. What I felt like wasn’t working, areas I thought he needed to improve on and vice versa. In fact he actively encouraged communication. I was not perfect either. Anytime I saw him looking at a young attractive women I would get upset with him and would stop talking to him for 30 minutes or so. Any time he was overly friendly with a young waitress I would get upset too. This was before I knew about all of the other women he was talking to.

OP posts:
Aprilx · 02/10/2022 19:12

I have no idea whether he is a narcissist or not and nor do I think it matters. He is an abusive arsehole. And you need to start running.

gemsandmilk · 02/10/2022 20:54

Just get out of this OP, it’s no good

ScrollingLeaves · 02/10/2022 21:02

Don’t worry about whatever it is called. Just go.

Leomii81 · 02/10/2022 22:08

He's an arsehole get rid of it

Cantthinkofanewnameatm · 02/10/2022 22:48

I just ended a relationship with my bf of 4 months

Best thing you could have done. Whether he’s a narcissist, control freak, complete nut job, doesn’t matter, you’ve dumped him. I’d get as far away as possible and block him on everything. He would not have made you happy, would he?

Elmer83 · 02/10/2022 22:56

Honestly a man of that age is taking advantage of you. You’ve obviously not a lot of experience to realise he is an absolute dick. Run and live your life. He’s no good

RequiemForAcat · 02/10/2022 22:57

An abusive monster. Run.

alwaysmovingforwards · 02/10/2022 23:02

I don't think he needs a label.
Except 'newly single'.

CheesyBeans1 · 02/10/2022 23:19

He sounds like the least fun guy ever.

jeaux90 · 02/10/2022 23:20

Sounds very narcissistic (I've been with a narc, a diagnosed one) but it's irrelevant. He's an abusive, controlling, manipulative arsehole.

You did well to finish it. Please move on, work on your boundaries and have a beautiful life....one without him in it.

MMmomDD · 03/10/2022 00:08

So much is wrong here, and from the very beginning.
In your next relationship - try to pick someone who is closer to you in age - so there is no pier imbalance.
And - please don’t move countries for anyone, not after knowing them for a few month. You got away safely this time - but it could have been so much worse.
And don’t stay with anyone who needs constant reassurance.
There are so many ‘don’ts’ in this ‘relationship’ - it’s one humongous red flag.

Have you been in or seen a healthy relationship?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/10/2022 00:40

All this in only 16 weeks? Don't allow him to worm his way back in.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/10/2022 00:42

I can only hope that you've blocked this arsehole.

Pumpkinbite · 03/10/2022 00:51

This went straight in to the relationship on a bunch of red flags.
After about the 15th red flag (somewhere around the second or third paragraph) I stopped reading.
it doesn’t matter what it’s called, he is horrific, don’t look back
do the freedom program

AuntTwacky · 03/10/2022 00:56

Run for the hills

AtrociousCircumstance · 03/10/2022 00:58

You need plenty of therapy OP, to work out why you fell for someone so obviously twisted.

It’s like red riding hood trying to understand the big bad Wolf. Move on, red. And thank god it’s over now.

Ladywiddio48 · 03/10/2022 01:06

All this happened in 4 Months!!!

Thingsdogetbetter · 03/10/2022 08:52

With that constant parade of huge red flags, you'd be better looking at reasons for your own behaviour than his. Every individual one of those red flags should have made you run! Instead they piled up and you hung on and got in deeper. Moving countries with a red flag waving bf of less than 4 months was not a mature, self-preservation act. Where's your shark cage?

What you found on his social media on the first date should have been enough to call this off. Instead he flattered you a bit and you kept going. And someone saying they have feelings for you on a FIRST date is a huge red flag too. Next time the minute you are suspicious of a date's behaviour, you stop seeing them! Not continue and move countries with them!!

Octomore · 03/10/2022 08:58

He's an abusive piece of shit who targets much younger women because they are easier to manipulate.

Congratulations on leaving him - it was a good decision.

PinotPony · 03/10/2022 09:23

He's abusive and it will only get worse. So many red flags!

Now you've ended the relationship, block him so he can't worm his way back in.

Redqueenheart · 03/10/2022 09:28

This relationship is way too complicated/toxic with too much drama.

Also, you are 25 why would you date a 43 old man in the first place?

His behaviour is dodgy as hell.

End this and in the future when you see early red flags act quickly and stop seeing that person.

NotLactoseFree · 03/10/2022 11:34

I am fairly certain I remember a post about this man a while ago and it ws clear that he was a controlling abusive asshole then. Nothing you have said here suggests that my opinion then was wrong.

Go back home, block him and never see or speak to him again.

fucap · 03/10/2022 11:34

Make sure you block him on everything so he can't worm his way back in.

It's irrelevant whether he's a narcissist or not, he's abusive and it would only get worse.

He has a mental health condition which isn't going to help the situation either.

You really need to do some serious work on yourself to unpick how you could allow this to happen.

In future relationships, do not move countries, or move in with someone, or make any serious life changes after a matter of weeks.

Bahbahh · 03/10/2022 11:52

@Thingsdogetbetter
I definitely have problems setting boundaries and holding firm on any that I do manage to set.
And have lots of issues to work through before I get in another relationship.

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 03/10/2022 12:07

OP - don't fixate on whether he needs to be labelled a narc, or anything else.
Just look at his appalling behaviour, & make sure you start taking steps to recognise the signs & avoid people who give off red flags like this is future.

His response was to tell me he had feelings for me and that I should give him a chance.
You told him that his fixation on very young women was a dealbreaker for you He totally steamrollered that, & felt he deserved to have you as a gf no matter what your feelings about his unsavoury fixation on young women. Note his failure to accept responsibility his failure to offer to change, his entitlement to your company.

I could list many, many more examples - an awful lot happened in thise 4 short months! - but you would be better off with a real life counsellor or therapist who will actively help you with -
I definitely have problems setting boundaries and holding firm on any that I do manage to set.
And have lots of issues to work through before I get in another relationship.

Very well done for recognising this. You absolutely deserve help - to heal from this toxic 4 month whirlwind, & in unpicking why your boundaries were so skewed, how you can fix them, & how to work on your general assertiveness & self-worth.

So get to your GP for a referral - or, if you can afford to go private, invest in yourself. btw - either way, it's ok to meet a few counsellors before settling on one who makes you feel the right mix of comfortable AND challenged.

And here's some homework in the meantime:
www.jennisspace.com/the-shark-cage-metaphor-spotting-potential-abusers/

www.amazon.co.uk/Woman-Your-Own-Right-Assertiveness/dp/0704334208

duckduckgo.com/?q=why+does+he+do+that&t=newext&atb=v321-1&ia=web

& book yourself onto this course - www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/online.php

There's nothing wrong with you that can't be fixed with good boundaries OP. And the fact that you don't currently have them is not your fault - it's likely down to some kind of adverse childhood experience, & you can get help with understanding the dynamic of that, & how to overcome it.

Please invest in yourself. Your ex is a toxic nightmare, & that's ALL you need to know about him. Now focus on YOU Flowers

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