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Struggling to cope with husbands emotional affair

26 replies

Unhappyaslarry · 02/10/2022 11:44

So as the subject says really, I found out my husband was having an emotional affair with a relative and it’s agonising.

We've been together for nearly 20 years, since secondary school and have an 11 month old baby.
Since the baby has been born it hasn’t been right between us and even a few days after giving birth I could tell he was detached from me. He wasn’t really interested in the baby or at least as far as I believe he should be interested, was completely useless at Christmas and didn’t want to get involved, even though it was our first Christmas as a family and our baby’s first.
Fast forward a few months and numerous arguments later I see he’s started texting this relative far too regularly and calling them numerous times throughout the day. Nothing sexual but seeing as though he was so detached from me and rather than sit with me at night and talk, he’d be texting her.
I confronted him about this and was told to stop looking through his phone, he’s known this person years and she’s a relative so he should be able to text her as often as he likes and he sees no problem with it.

I did check his phone again a couple of weeks later and saw these text messages were getting more and more ‘friendly’ telling each other how much of a great time they had while they were out drinking, they were with her husband that night too but the text very much insinuated it was each other’s company they enjoyed.
Again I confronted him about this and he blew up at me, saying how dare I say who he can and can’t say who he tells he has a good time with and then changed the password on his phone.

I worked out his password and checked his phone again after about a week and to be on the extra safe side he was deleting the messages between them both daily, but what I did see was a days worth of messages between them when her child was ill (with a 24 hour sickness bug) where from 6am in the morning until the last one at 9:30pm at night checking in on them both with more than 20 messages exchanged between them in 1 day plus phone calls. Yet when our child as ill (really quite poorly may I add) for over a week the only time he’d ask about them was when I’d rang him and that really broke my heart.

Anyway fast forward a couple of weeks I’d really had enough and decided to tap into a couple of phone calls between them. I’ll be honest from the way they were talking to each other it really sounded like they were sleeping together, very sexual talk, planning to meet when her husband wasn’t there etc.

I confronted him about it and the first thing he said was that they had kissed and admitted he was having an emotional affair.
he was quite cold in telling me that “nice to feel wanted” and “him and her make each other happy because they’re both miserable in their relationships” I was dumbfounded.
I flew into a rage and said that he was basically saying this is all my fault then to which he said no, it’s all his fault but he hasn’t been happy with all the arguments we’ve had lately and he was seeking happiness elsewhere. - Well thank f**k for a bit of honesty there then.

He did say for about a year, he has been a mess mentally and didn’t want to talk to me about it, having just had the baby and he was trying to deal with it in his own head and talking to her the way he did was a bit of escapism, but vowed he never slept with her.

He was utterly apologetic, telling me he is going to change and try for me and our baby. He’s sorry for what he’s put me through and begged me to give him another chance.

Rewind to the messages saying about how much fun they had together drinking, that was the night they kissed.
He reckons since they kissed he has felt bad about it and it has been playing on his mind, but I just don’t see it, why would you text her the next day saying you’ve had a great time if you knew what you had done was wrong?
Why would you carry on not just talking sexually but also about your respective sex lives if you felt so bad about ‘The kiss’.

I wanted to go and tell the woman’s husband but I was begged not to so as not to ruin her relationship and the one between him and my husband. There’s also financial implications involved which would effect us if they were to part ways.

So it’s been about 2 months since I found all this out and it feels things aren’t going too well. Firstly I overheard a joke my husband said to her over the phone where he said she’s secretly filming for an only fans account and she’s got webcams in her house of which they both found hilarious, I asked about it and he just said he was trying to act normal and have a joke and it wasn’t a sexual joke that was ‘about them’ if you get my drift, he did also try to tell me she didn’t laugh very much and hasn’t done at any jokes like this since she found out I knew about them but I heard her myself. So it appears the lewd jokes are not off the cards.

Then on top of that it was my birthday a few days ago I said not to worry about getting me anything as I’d like to go out for the day to this certain place but this won’t be until the end of October before we can go. He then told me the day before my birthday he hadn’t got me a card or anything, not even one from my daughter as my first birthday being a mum, to which I said I was disappointed about. He then disappeared off for over an hour and then on the morning of my birthday I wake to a card and a present, along with a complete lie about how he’d gone out with her and picked my present, I lie I substantiated by finding the receipt for the gift he’d bought when my daughter was at home with me.
I understand this sounds petty, but before our baby was born he was always thoughtful and went out of his way to make birthdays etc feel really special, so for this type of attitude to now appear hurts quite a bit.

He also comes across as really smug he managed to essentially “pull” this relatives wife as some of the things he’s told me she’s told him about their relationship is truly shocking, and all it’s done is seem to inflate his ego even more, which in my mind makes me feel he’s not remorseful at all.

I can leave, financially I am independent and would easily afford to live alone so that’s not an issue for me, which is good as then I know I’m not staying for the wrong reasons, but I’m just utterly confused by it all. I never suspected anything like this of him before in our relationship and now it seems he’s showing his true colours and I don’t like them.
I have brought up on different occasions questions about their “affair” to which he has calmly answered everything I have requested to know, admitted he was wrong and hasn’t gone mad an me for bringing it up again as he understands I need clarity. His words were the last time I asked about it was “I don’t want you to keep torturing yourself over it, I know you’ll never trust me again and I understand, I don’t expect to be trusted, I wouldn’t be happy if I were in your shoes and I’m just thankful you’ve given me another chance, I was f**led in the head for a long time but realising I might lose you has made me wake up”

I don’t understand how you can go from that extreme to the other of coming across as completely smug, I know he doesn’t particularly like this woman’s husband but it just seems he has no respect for the situation he put his family member in at all?!

How should I be looking at all this?

OP posts:
FluffySocksAndHotChocolate · 02/10/2022 11:46

Just leave op.

floraflo · 02/10/2022 12:40

So sorry you're going through this OP. What a disappointment he is.
The trust is gone. You need to move on from him. You're very lucky that you can easily afford to be on your own. Do it. You'll be so much happier not having to think about what he is or isn't doing. It doesn't sound like you'll be missing much!

Craftylover43 · 02/10/2022 12:50

If he's sorry and has realised his mistake, why is he still talking to her? Knowing how you feel and yet still putting his family at risk with this behavior. Sorry OP but I'd leave, I couldn't deal with that especially where he hasn't stopped talking to her. I would also think that hour spent away on your birthday was with her if the card and present was already bought. He told you he hadn't got you anything - but had got you something! That's really quite sly and to then let you be upset at the thought of him not bothering so he could escape for an hour on your birthday? I'd leave and tell the husband what's going on. How would you feel if the husband knew but didn't tell you? Sorry your going through this and I hope your ok. Must be horrible for you

Sunnytwobridges · 02/10/2022 12:51

hones I think he doesn’t want to be a dad and has checked out of family life.

Craftylover43 · 02/10/2022 12:54

Sorry misread, I thought he went out on your birthday not that it makes it any better that he left you for an hour the night before when he had already bought your present. Such a shame that he clearly doesn't appreciate what he's put you through or the chance you've given to put it right

marmaladepop · 02/10/2022 12:59

Leave. He does not love you and is having an affair. I went through something similar 20 years ago. Secure your finances asap via a solicitor.

Cosycover · 02/10/2022 13:05

He kissed his relative?
How are they related?

Cornflakegirll · 02/10/2022 13:06

Working through an affair takes true remorse from the cheating partner. Your husband has none. No contact with the affair partner is also an absolute but he’s joking on phones with her??? No just no!

He’s in damage control now and trying to protect her and his reputation rather than do the right thing. I’d also put money on the fact that he’s minimised the extent of the affair. It was not just a kiss.

He is playing a particularly nasty game now while he tries to get you to put up and shut up, for their sake, not for yours or your little family.

You deserve better than this man, your baby deserves better than a father focused on an affair partner. I’m so sorry.

CyberSecurityRoundabout · 02/10/2022 13:08

First of all....a relative??

Secondly, he doesn't sound like he likes you let alone loves you or respects you 😔

You should leave OP. You deserve so much better

AnyFucker · 02/10/2022 13:10

I am confused about your confusion.

You can support yourself, end it now for fucks sake

octoberfarm · 02/10/2022 13:21

I'm assuming (but not 100% sure) that the person you are/your husband is related to is her husband, rather than her? Either way, what stands out most to me is that if he was really sorry (and not just sorry he was caught), he'd have cut contact completely - if he's as remorseful as he says, he wouldn't still be having cozy chats with her on the phone. He's admitted to an emotional affair but still openly chats to the women he kissed as a married man, in front of you? He's taking the mick, and you deserve so much better than this. If I were you I'd leave, OP. If you take all the questions and reasons about why he's behaved as he has out of it, he's been unfaithful and hasn't seemed to give much of a toss about you or your little one. You deserve more than this.

Takeitonthechin · 02/10/2022 13:21

Tell her husband what's going on show him the evidence... leave the cheating pathetic excuse of a man, take him for everything he's got and go enjoy your life with your child.

Darbs76 · 02/10/2022 15:11

Why is he still in regular contact with her? Is it his brothers wife? I don’t think he sounds all that sorry OP, sorry to say. Will you ever trust him again? Maybe time to call it a day

MytummydontjigglejiggleItfolds · 02/10/2022 15:35

Oh OP.
You need to leave.
I'm sorry he has done this full stop, but I'm also sorry he has done this during such a precious time.
I'm sorry he didn't mark your first birthday as a Mum in a way that made you feel appreciated.
I'm sorry that the posters in reply to this thread seem to care more about what he's done than your DH. That's really stark.
Go be a happy family of 2, not a tense and disappointed group of 3.

PineOrange · 02/10/2022 18:45

You should leave.

File for divorce if married.

And definitely tell her husband so he also has the right to make informed choicesdecisions.

Now stop talking about him, he has put you through enough, don't allow him to treat you like crap anymore.

melchim · 02/10/2022 23:53

I don't think he's kissing his own sister, it sounds like she's the wife of a blood relative. Eg the wife of his brother.

OP even though he says he's remorseful, his actions don't show it. If you want things to work, you both need to agree to steps you're going to take, such as couples counselling or having more openness with his texts and calls. If he can't show you that he's willing to put in any work to fix things then walk away.

Ratherperplexed · 03/10/2022 13:54

He's a [email protected] rid now. He's dragging you down, won't change from being a selfish entitled little prick who doesn't prioritise his partner and child. He has zero respect for you and you deserve better!

TimeForOneMoreCoffee · 04/10/2022 05:32

I'm sorry this is happening to you. From what I can gather, he's not broken contact with her and isn't showing you how he's now devoted to you and your baby. Rather than leave, I'd kick him out and tell her husband/his family what's been going on. Neither of them have shown you any respect, so why should you show them any.

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 04/10/2022 07:04

I'd end it. Get some evidence and show her husband. That'll wipe the smug look from his face
Move on and be happy, you are worth so much more

MytummydontjigglejiggleItfolds · 04/10/2022 09:33

You ok OP? How's it going?

Stillfunny · 04/10/2022 11:20

Don't leave, kick him out. In order to show that he is changed , he should have cut all contact and been truly remorseful. Which he has not done.

Opentooffers · 04/10/2022 15:49

You're letting him walk all over your relationship by not making it a requirement that he has no further contact with this relative, in fact it seems he's doing it in front of you, that's outrageous! He's not tried hard has he other than saying he doesn't want to split? No effort for your birthday, no change in communication, what's the point?
Just end it, imagine a life where you don't feel the need to check up on someone?
Some poor men find it hard having a child - even though obviously women take on the toughest part in that, with massive physical, mental and lifestyle change.S

StarCourt · 04/10/2022 16:00

If you're independent OP does it actually matter about financial implications if you split?

Adelais · 04/10/2022 17:17

I find it telling that you were together so long and then he has an affair once you have a baby. He sounds like he doesn’t want to be a dad and is maybe struggling that he doesn’t have all your attention. In other words he sounds like an immature man baby who’s checked out of family life.

if he was truly sorry he would have cut contact with this woman. The fact he hasn’t suggests he either doesn’t care about your feelings or just likes the attention from her.

I would leave him.

AccountDeactivated · 04/10/2022 17:23

’how should I be looking at this?’
From your rear view mirror as you drive to the solicitor for your divorce. No penis is worth that shit. You’re financially independent so there’s literally zero need to continue the farce. Enjoy life.