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Friend's shit husband is affecting me!

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Chimichurro · 03/09/2022 09:44

My friend accepts that her husband is a waste of space.
She works part-time and is currently on maternity leave, however they also run a business together. He does the practical side of things and she does most of the paperwork behind the scenes.

Since being on maternity leave, he seems to consider her to be 'off work' and gives her errands to run with a toddler and baby in tow. She seems to do what he says for fear of upsetting the status quo. Their marriage seems to be very much a formal arrangement these days with not much love left- she has no desire to leave him and seems content with their practical arrangement.

He's a terrible husband. He won't cook, clean, ignores the children, refuses to help with bedtimes, won't change nappies, won't dress his kids, doesn't help. She just accepts it although complains to me about him. She clearly finds him a bit pathetic. He is also a big gamer and spends much of his time gaming like a child. I am always wowed by her endless energy and surprised that she doesn't burn out. If she was ever ill, I don't know what would happen as she keeps absolutely everything going, albeit chaotically due to the enormous amount on her plate.

The thing is, his neglect for his responsibilities is affecting me whenever I see my friend! We had arranged a play date last week for both her kids and one of mine and he called her when we were leaving, asking her to run some work errands instead. She agreed and we instead spent our morning at suppliers, banks etc with 3 kids in tow! She kept apologising but wouldn't seem to tell him no. These errands went on long past lunch time and I was livid to discover that her husband had actually finished work by lunch time and had spent the afternoon gaming when he could have run these errands himself!!

There have been two occasions now where I've arranged to meet my friend for coffee/lunch and although I know she'll bring the baby, she's arranged to leave the toddler with him at home. Then she'll suddenly arrive with the toddler too and apologise a lot but I'll spend my much needed child-free morning chasing her toddler whilst she feeds the baby! Her reasoning both times- her husband wasn't feeling very well so she needed to bring the toddler too.

In addition to this, there have been occasions where she's asked me for emergency childcare because she's needed to take the baby somewhere and he's bailed on looking after the toddler. I wouldn't mind, but I am basically filling in for him- their Dad! Who needs to pull his weight!

I've told her this- she agrees, but doesn't challenge it and I think she's becoming far too used to relying on other women to fill in for her husband which just isn't on. Her home dynamic is all wrong and it impacts me literally every time I see her. I don't think she's frightened of him, I very much doubt that there is physical abuse going on but clearly he expects far too much of her which is mental abuse. His expectations of her are absolutely ridiculous. I have told her this. She accepts it, says she will never leave him due to the business and there being too much at stake. She probably takes too much on aswell, without considering that she'll need help but her husband never does help so it always falls to a friend. We once booked a spa day last year and I had to drive 5 miles in the opposite direction to collect her at the last minute as her husband suddenly refused to drop her off as he was 'doing enough looking after DC1 for the day' and she couldn't drive at the time due to a broken ankle.

I just wouldn't accept any of this from my own husband and I'm becoming increasingly exasperated that my friend's husband's laziness is affecting my life and time spent with my friend. It's not enjoyable time much of the time and it's because of him and what appears to be misogyny.

How to continue a friendship when her husband's neglect for his responsibilities regularly affects me?

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Chimichurro · 03/09/2022 12:50

I agree with all of your boundaries @billy1966 I will start telling her no and explaining that my time is precious etc.

She has surprised me with the lazy parenting, particularly when she can point out when my children are wrong but not her own.

She's not very self aware at all. Particularly with inconveniencing friends over her husband.

Oh I'm sure her husband will reap the consequences in the future although I actually believe he will leave eventually and live the single man's life he wants.

In terms of meeting in the evenings @RandomMess not an option either as she's not allowed to leave the DC with her husband at night "incase he wakes up" which apparently he regularly does. Her husband doesn't know how to comfort him apparently 🙄

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Shinyandnew1 · 03/09/2022 13:25

Also, her eldest son's behaviour is very challenging at present and he hits out at other kids so I erected a boundary about not meeting up with the children in tow some time ago!

In terms of meeting in the evenings @RandomMess not an option either as she's not allowed to leave the DC with her husband at night

If you’re not meeting up with her with children in tow and haven’t been for some time, and you’re not meeting up with her in the evenings, when are you meeting up?!

Chimichurro · 03/09/2022 13:38

I broke the boundary last time @Shinyandnew1 however we were supposed to be getting together for a more structured event which would have made him hitting out less likely.

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IncompleteSenten · 03/09/2022 13:40

I'd cancel. Every time.
Ok well I'll leave to to your errands, let me know when you are free and we'll reschedule.

Ok well it's a bit hectic. Let's get together when x can have the toddler etc.

RandomMess · 03/09/2022 13:47

I would just say you can only meet I the evenings and leave it with her to recognise his abuse and non-parenting. Bounce it back to her as her issue to resolve with him.

You can still stay in touch and be friends without meeting up

Chimichurro · 03/09/2022 18:48

Yes true, we could remain as long distance-type phone friends until her children are older.

I've already explained to her that spending time with young children when I finally have relief from my own isn't my idea of a much needed child-free day.

She needs to address the issues.
The problem for her is that they are quite wealthy as a couple- she built the business up on her inheritance (hundreds of thousands) and she won't be wanting him to claim his share if they divorce.

I'm poor in comparison anyway and just wouldn't put up with crap husband behaviour.

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RandomMess · 03/09/2022 19:17

Perhaps she should fork out for an au-pair or a nanny?

Chimichurro · 03/09/2022 19:19

Thought the same @RandomMess

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HappyMeal564 · 03/09/2022 19:31

Pinkpeony2 · 03/09/2022 12:23

It’s really difficult when you have a friend but don’t like their kid/ kids or their children are very hard work and impact on your children.
Been there with a friend I really liked.
Child was also a boy and toddler (although she had a girl too who I found incredibly spoilt and rude but was at school all day)
We hardly ever met without the kids so I just limited contact a bit / put up with it and when he got older he did get a lot better.
If your friends child is hitting or snatching toys from your children I would be gently but very firmly telling friends child not to do it. I usually find that when the other child knows you mean business they stop doing it (when you are there) Even at 2 children quickly cotton on. But I agree not liking your friends kids is a difficult one.

I wouldn't bother with her anymore. It's rubbish for her but she's making a choice. Do you get any enjoyment from seeing her? I wouldn't want my kids around someone who allowed their kids to behave like that, nor would I want my kids morning to be following them round doing errands for the business they have and I wouldn't want to spend my child free time chasing her toddler

HappyMeal564 · 03/09/2022 19:32

@Pinkpeony2 sorry don't know how I quoted you, sleep deprivation most likely!

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