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Trapped, sad, noone to talk to

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Ginpink45 · 01/09/2022 11:23

Im not looking for advice, I know what the answers are. I just don't have anyone to talk to irl at all and I have to get it out sometimes before I feel my brain might explode so I'm writing it here like a diary.
I have been with my husband a long time. In our 40s. We have 2 kids both preteens.

Our very long relationship has just come to a naturally end really and neither us seem able to do anything to make the leap to separate. Mainly because neither of us want to be apart from our children. We are the only partners we've ever had and neither of us have ever lived alone so I suppose we are pretty reliant on each other. Our lives and families lives are very emeshed and it's all weve ever known.
Our sex life has dwindled to zero. It's been years now. We have tried multiple times to get it back but we are not a lovey dovey couple and the passion has gone. It almost felt fake and was a chore so no point trying again.
Every disagreement we ever have is about our children. (we have very different opinions and parenting techniques).
Because we were teenagers when we got together, we were totally different people then. I was a sensible plain Jane. He was a tough guy, muscles, tattoos, very sociable and I was attracted to that very much.
Over the years he has changed into a completely different person. His family point it out all the time. He is very quiet, says he hates other people. The few friends he had he doesn't see any more and says he doesn't want friends. He has no social life and no life outside of this house. He doesn't attend any family gatherings and doesn't come on holidays with us or days out to the park etc. He stays home alone either watching TV with the curtains closed or playing a game on his phone. He has let himself go completely, he is very overweight, smelly, doesn't shave, wears ripped and stained clothes when at home. All of this massively shouts depression but he always says hes not and it's just the way he is and he likes his life that way. How can I find any of this attractive? He is not the man I fell in love with. He is a stranger to me.
He provides financially and thinks that is his duties complete. Does the odd bit of DIY /gardening but again that has massively reduced.
He wasn't this bad before covid. He went to work and had to wear a suit etc. It has since then changed to permanent work from home so he never goes out. Never needs to dress up. Never interacts with anyone else. I have seen the huge impact this has had on him and expressed my concern yet he says its the best thing that has ever happened to him and he loves his life the way it is now.
So.... We are just on different paths in life now which is fine. I want to live my own life seperate to him but amicable. But there just doesnt seem to be a possibiliy of this. I've asked for advice on here before and basically it terrified me that the road forward with kids involved would be very difficult. So I mentally made the decision to wait until they were older. Then told that's the wrong thing to do aswell. I just feel so trapped in this love less marriage, completely soul destroying. I yearn for any type of attention from him and get nothing. My life is so empty with him and I'm so so unhappy.

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heathspeedwell · 01/09/2022 11:30

Sorry to hear you are going through this but you can build a life of your own even if you don't feel ready to separate yet. What are your interests? Can you go to evening classes, clubs or local groups to make new friends? Just because he wants to sit indoors all day doesn't mean that you have to.

Take it slowly, start doing a few things you enjoy every week and you'll soon make new friends and have lots to look forward to.

19Bears · 01/09/2022 11:48

I'm so sorry you feel like this, @Ginpink45 He sounds very similar to my DH, especially the stained clothes and lack of hygiene. Mine does go out to see bands etc, but does that on his own, no friends. And when he's at home he just watches politics or sport obsessively and it drains me. There is just nothing between us now, and I want the marriage to end but he doesn't. He does make an 'effort' to talk to me, but it's always about absolutely nothing, I could be anyone, and he just bores the life out of me so I avoid or ignore him. I know this makes me look like the bad guy. As with you, we've got kids, and my overwhelming feeling is not to ruin their home life because I'm unhappy. Everyone on here will say to you it's best for kids to have happy separated parents than two strangers ignoring each other in the same house, but as you know, it doesn't really help you when your brain and heart are telling you to just get on with it and that this is just life. So really I'm not looking for advice either, I just want you to know I get it Flowers

Ginpink45 · 01/09/2022 11:50

I do have my own life seperate to him, and I take my kids out all the time. My friends/family always comment as to why he's not there or why he's not at any family events etc. I used to make excuses for him but now I tell them the truth, that he doest want to be there and he chooses to stay at home instead. He knows I tell them the truth and he isn't bothered!

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Ginpink45 · 01/09/2022 11:53

My fear regarding the kids if we seperate now is that he would still act and live this way on his own. So when he would have the kids, they would have to deal with it without me being there.
At the moment I try to protect them from it and go above and beyond to make sure they are leading happy lives. We have millions of photos of days out, holidays etc and he's not on any of them cuz he wasn't there!

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19Bears · 01/09/2022 12:02

This is all so familiar. I used to make excuses for him all the time, saying he had to work if he wasn't at family events, or covering up for him if he was away at a gig and just doing his own thing instead of considering other people. I don't do that anymore. And yes, I would dread the kids going to him if we separated as they just sit on their phones or tablets while he is in his own world, whereas when I'm there they instantly switch off and chat or play with me and we have a laugh together. I too have all the selfies of days out which gets noticed by friends and family. It's so bloody obvious what I need to do, but here I am driving everyone mad with my dithering.....

SummerInSun · 01/09/2022 12:52

You say your kids are pre teens. Do they really not notice how odd their dad's behaviour is, and how poor your relationship is? I bet they see and notice a lot more than you think. Do you want them growing up thinking that their Dad's behaviour or your marriage is an OK model?

I wouldn't worry so much about contact. If you separate, he will have to pull his act together when they go round or, especially as they get older, they will simply not be willing to go. He will have to make a decision then if sitting on the sofa is more important than a relationship with his kids. You can't save him from that. But as things stand, it doesn't sound like they get anything much from him being there anyway.

Bestcatmum · 01/09/2022 13:02

I've learnt from my own two marriages that ended that it's never worth staying in a situation like this. Mo matter how crap life outside looks it definitely will be better.
There is no way I'd be staying in this situation especially as there is no blame divorce now which cuts all the grief out of the previous blame divorces.
Just get those papers into the court and get the ball rolling, be proactive. The rest of your life starts here.

Ginpink45 · 01/09/2022 13:26

He does not want to seperate.I've asked him multiple times if he wants to. Why would he? He gets to do nothing and basically have someone else look after his kids 24/7.
If I was the one who had to start the seperation, he would absolutely hate me. He would do everything in his power to make things as difficult as possible for me and I think he would use the children against me.
That's why I keep telling myself that once the kids are about 14 they won't need me in the same way and custody battles etc wouldn't be the same as if they were very young children. I can't bare the thought of not seeing them every day.
Yes the kids are aware that the relationship isn't normal. We sleep in seperate bedrooms also. I have actually explained to them in simple terms the realities of it because they have asked me alot of questions about why he doesn't join in with things etc.

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Isittrueornot · 01/09/2022 14:58

You have everything really just not love and affection…have an affair or leave. Win, win.

Affair would probably be easier than leaving

Tiger2018 · 01/09/2022 15:04

OP this sounds very similar to my marriage - lack of personal care and everything. It destroyed any love I felt for him.

Our separation was messy and painful but I came through the other side. One of the things I never expected was my ex to become a parent - a proper dad to the kids. We share 50/50 but initially it was eow - he slowly but surely learnt how to be a good dad and for all his faults as a husband, he is now doing well as their dad - really how he should of been from the beginning. I don't know why he didn't step up from the beginning but it doesn't matter now. I guess it was just easier for him to not have to when we were together, because I did it all.

We don't agree all the time but generally it has settled down. And you know what - If I'd have stayed, he would never of done that.

Ginpink45 · 01/09/2022 15:32

@Isittrueornot absolutely not. I would never have an affair because 1. I would become the bad guy in it all and when everybody inevitably found out I'd be hated for destroyed the family and 2. I never want to be with another man ever again. They contribute nothing to my life and I just want to live alone and be in charge of my own life for the first time. I hate having to run everything past someone, someone who never agrees with me over anything (on purpose).

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