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IN LAWS - what choice do we have?

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OuiOui · 05/11/2002 14:26

It's the in laws!

Please forgive my long rant, but I've got to see what other people think and also put it all into context!
They live in France, we're in London, so we don't see them that much. My dh has never got on with his dad - he's mean spirited and treats my mil like "dirt" - myself and dh have a great relationship and are amazed that they live in this state of co-existence of unhappiness.
My FIL can go for days without speaking to my MIL and she'll call up and whinge but when we encourage her to "change" her life - she just turns around and says that things aren't so bad - at least he doesn't beat her. Earlier on this year, she had a breast operation (removed!) but I was shocked to hear from my dh that he wouldn't be surprised if she chose that course of action so that she could get lots of sympathy. This may sound harsh - but that really is quite a feasible explanation. She slmost enjoys being downtrodden - she'd have nothing to talk about otherwise. Anyway, I've gone off on a tangent.

BAck to my FIL. I said he was mean - but I don't
think that even explains it. He sulks for days if he breaks something or a bill arrives or if he has to pay for anything. He spends all mornings cutting out coupons and driving around different supermarkets for the best promotions. Every key holiday time (Xmas, Easter Summer) we plan to spend time with them and never have a good time as the parents and siblings (not dh) just argue and bicker and criticise each other. Every time we come back so stressed and our friends just tell us that we're mad for going back for more.

Finally, this Summer we spent 4 days with them in France and we said no more! (yeah right) My FIL sulked for 3 days because he got a parking ticket He wasn't interested in dd and the atmosphere was so unpleasant that both dh and I said that enough was enough. We don't want our dd exposed to such hostile environments. DH called after the holiday and told his mother that we wouldn't spend any more holidays with them - that his father was getting worse and worse and he had to realise that he couldn't treat people the ways he does. (Outside of the family he tries to be all jolly etc as appearances are very impt to him). DH also revealed how upset he was (this was news to me)that his father had never called when dd at 7 months got intussuseption and had emergency "operation" at Gt Ormond St - his father never called!

Anyway, we're not seeing them at Christmas but we've booked flights for my in laws to come over in February - are we mad? What choice do we have? They're his parents. PLease any advice!

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prufrock · 05/11/2002 15:04

Yes - it sounds like you are mad - but understandable. No matter what dh says, I am sure he does not want the relationship to totally break down, but your FIL sounds nasty - and your family should not be exposed to that. Would it be possible for your MIL to come and visit you by herself - it might be v. good for her to get away from him for a few days?

OuiOui · 05/11/2002 15:11

prufrock - I'm happy to be called mad. Yes we've already had MIL over for a few days for dd's first birthday. definitely the way forward but I'm already getting stressed at the thought of having to see FIL again. It seems like such a "paper exercise" as nobody will enjoy it and he doesn't even seem interested in his only granddaughter (although MIL insists that he loves being a grandad but feels he's not really ready for it) what does that mean? - the man's over 60 years old - I just think he's emotionless!

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Lindy · 05/11/2002 15:42

I'm not quite clear what was the reason behind booking the flights in February? I would definately pursue the line of just inviting your MIL. Or how about your DH visiting on his own?

I think there comes a time when you have to accept that you are just not going to get on with certain family members and it is pointless (sad, as well - I have a lot of experience here!!) to just see people for 'the sake of it' - afterall, you wouldn't choose to spend time with friends if they behaved like this would you?

Good luck whatever happens.

OuiOui · 05/11/2002 15:48

I don't quite know how we gave in so easily about the February visit. Lindy I get your point about "there comes a time when you have to accept that you are just not going to get on with certain family members " but this is my dh's father - it seems that we would become estranged very quickly. On the one jand I really don't want to expose dd to this man but he is her grand father - I am so confused but I think dh is too. As for visiting on his own, he'd hate it! It's definitely less stressful over here than over there...

What's that thing "you can choose your friends but not your family???"

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badmamma · 05/11/2002 15:59

Sadly, men as they get older just get more rigid, less sociable, less able to cope with other people's presence interfering with their routine. My father has driven me mad for years. He used to come to see me when my kids were babies and get really upset that his meal was not served when he usually had it or that we had bought slightly different sort of bread to sort he liked. He'd lose his rag with kids over nothing. His apparent selfishness would make me furious. Would end up with row every time he came. But it's just an age thing, probably testosterone decline or somesuch. But he loves his grandchildren: just it s easier for him to be alone.

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