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Lost all respect for DP

76 replies

Norespectwhattodo · 24/08/2022 04:36

Been with DP for 6 years, when we met he was really hardworking and had lots of friends however it his work and socialising was all alcohol based.

He became sober after 2 years together and cut ties with those friends and has spent 4 years unemployed with no friends, only wanting to sit on the sofa gaming or watching TV. I felt for him at first as thought he must be struggling with his mental health but he refuses to try therapy again. He’s on SSRIs but won’t speak to the GP about adjusting the dose.

He’s now in his 30s, we have a 1 year old and it’s a struggle to get DP to come out with us, when we’re out he complains “this is why I don’t go outside” “this is enough being outdoors for the week”. He won’t ever take DC to the park alone, won’t take him to baby groups, won’t go to a dads only baby group to make new friends, has no interest in socialising or going out and doing anything ever. Any suggestion of a walk is “what’s the point”.

He has gained 10 stone since we met, he eats rubbish all day long.

And he refuses to get a job. Every time I suggest getting a job he says he’s not qualified to do anything and asks me what he’s supposed to do then later on that day his anxiety will flare up again because the thought of working apparently makes him so anxious.

I have to tell him how to do absolutely everything, I log on to pay all the bills and rent, I sort out the admin side of everything, organise DCs appointments, I plan what time bus we need to get to get places on time, I ring the GP, I do the budget, I meal plan, I do the food shop, I do the cooking, I tell him when to put a wash on because otherwise the clothes just sit in a pile for ages and he’ll ignore them, a bit of rubbish can be on the floor for a week that he’ll walk past every day and won’t notice. He literally does nothing apart from some chores and playing with our toddler. I’ve just spent and hour and a half trying to get our upset toddler back to sleep, he woke up for the 6th time and I asked DP to try who handed him back after 5 minutes and told me to “do something rather than lying there ignoring him” when I’ve been up since 3am trying.

I feel like I’ve lost all respect for him, I’m snappy and argumentative with him all the time as he irritates me so much, I find it really pathetic but that he won’t get off his arse and do something with his life and instead just sits around waiting for something to happen.

However I also feel really sorry for him, it must be a very lonely existence, he has had a rubbish past, he’s now got no friends and nothing going on, I can’t tell wether he’s still struggling with mental health problems or if he’s just using them as an excuse now and now he’s so isolated and if I leave that’s going to become even worse but I can’t bring my DC up thinking this is ok as surely having a dad who never goes outside, complains about being outside and has no friends isn’t good for his upbringing?

sorry for the huge rant just needed to offload

OP posts:
Goldbar · 24/08/2022 09:07

And stop feeding him. Like the poster above said, eventually he'll have to move and fend for himself.

Aquamarine1029 · 24/08/2022 09:09

The only hope this man has of changing his life is if you kick him out. You are not helping him.

Fraaahnces · 24/08/2022 09:13

Sounds like you’re married to an amoeba. Get rid.

Gonnagetacatwhenimovein · 24/08/2022 09:18

Stop enabling him and get rid of this terrible role model for your child

SunnyD44 · 24/08/2022 09:33

I do feel very sorry for him.

I lost my job, put on weight and was too anxious to go outside and I got depressed which made me put on more weight and made me more anxious so I couldn’t go out even more - it’s an awful vicious cycle.

He needs to break the cycle.

However, you can’t jeopardise your own MH because you’re so busy looking after him.

It sounds like you have tried everything.

I would sit him down and have a serious conversation about how exhausted you are and you are essentially a single parent.

Say you don’t mind him not having a job right now, if he’s going to do all of the house stuff - but he’s not.
Tell him he needs to start pulling his weight or you’re going to end things as it’s not fair on you or the kids.

Unless you are done and want to end things which I wouldn’t blame you.

I think a job would actually really help him but I wouldn’t push it just yet.
Give him jobs to do - say you need to start doing X, Y and Z.
At the very least he needs to be doing childcare, cooking and cleaning as he is the SAHP.

Eventually he could get a job that means he’s out of the house but isn’t too much pressure or doesn’t come into contact with too many people - maybe a milkman or warehouse worker.

I would also try eating healthier as a family - eating crap food makes you feel like crap and is not going to help his weight and self confidence.

He should see a gp but when you have anxiety/depression it is almost impossible.
What’s the saying - you can bring a horse to water but you can’t force it to drink.

Ffordecortana · 24/08/2022 09:39

He won’t change until you do. You’re enabling him.

I have questions though; how is he getting a repeat prescription without review? Are you sure he’s getting/taking it?

How is he accessing benefits without review? Or perhaps he isn’t and you’re carrying that too?

hewouldwouldnthe · 24/08/2022 09:49

I am astonished you would have a child with a no hoper who has sat on his arse for 4 years. You've made your own life 100 times harder.

Ask him to leave or leave yourself.

MargotMoon · 24/08/2022 09:50

Your thread title says it all - if you've lost respect for your partner (and who can blame you?) it's time to go it alone, before it turns to resentment. Given that he doesn't have a job he could see your DC as much as he wants so don't let him use that against you.

noclothesinbed · 24/08/2022 11:14

If you want to help him you have to leave him. Only way he will change. Do it for your baby his a lazy waste of space.

PersonaNonGarter · 24/08/2022 11:16

Change the locks.

Unfortunately, it will be the best thing to happe. To either of you. He is unwell and you are enabling it. You need to get away from each other.

Ihaveanoldiphone · 24/08/2022 11:25

I know lots of women who have had the most horrendous childhoods but still have to crack on with life, and that’s without being able to acknowledge any mental health problems. Not everyone’s depression is the same and it’s great he’s on medication but he needs to seek help if dose needs changing and he needs to be open to therapy. If he won’t do it for himself he needs to do it for you and your little one. Don’t feel sorry for him, I wonder how much he would put up with if shoe on the other foot. He’s got a nice set up here, I’m sure mental health is a factor but I don’t believe it’s all due to that.

AlpacaBag · 24/08/2022 11:39

1 - You are not responsible for his happiness. Don't feel sorry for him, or stay because you feel sorry for him.

2 - He needs a doctor.

3 - Leave. Immediately.

Adelais · 24/08/2022 12:15

He’s never going to change while your enabling him and doing everything for him.
you need to put yourself and your child first and leave him. It might be a wake up call for him.
you can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped and it’s no surprise at all you’ve lost respect for him.
Are both your names on the tenancy?

Rounddog · 24/08/2022 15:11

Ihaveanoldiphone · 24/08/2022 11:25

I know lots of women who have had the most horrendous childhoods but still have to crack on with life, and that’s without being able to acknowledge any mental health problems. Not everyone’s depression is the same and it’s great he’s on medication but he needs to seek help if dose needs changing and he needs to be open to therapy. If he won’t do it for himself he needs to do it for you and your little one. Don’t feel sorry for him, I wonder how much he would put up with if shoe on the other foot. He’s got a nice set up here, I’m sure mental health is a factor but I don’t believe it’s all due to that.

This is actually a very good point too.

Bananalanacake · 24/08/2022 17:50

Could you live apart and have 50 50 contact, DC has one week with you then one week with him. Then you are not taking his DC away.

firstmummy2019 · 24/08/2022 18:16

Bananalanacake · 24/08/2022 17:50

Could you live apart and have 50 50 contact, DC has one week with you then one week with him. Then you are not taking his DC away.

Honestly don't think he would cope with this.

MandyTheSwimmer · 24/08/2022 18:20

He's bone idle. Get rid.

Octomore · 24/08/2022 18:22

I agree with all the PPs saying to leave. You have one life, and one life only. Go and live it.

pictish · 24/08/2022 18:28

Just go. He won’t fight for you and after you have gone he will simply sit there, moulder away, feel sorry for himself and do nothing about it.
Might as well save yourself and the little one.

Pallisers · 24/08/2022 19:24

you've had 6 years of this. 2 of which he was in active alcoholism and 4 of which he is entirely non-functional. you are only 25. Get out of the tenancy and tell him he can either pay the rent himself or move. move yourself and your child out and start living a more normal life. And I strongly suggest you do some therapy/freedom programme/whatever to find out why you accepted this relationship at the age of 19 and why you are only now thinking you deserve something better.

From his point of view, having a partner and child is doing nothing for his mental health. Maybe he will sort himself out if you are gone. Maybe he won't but it isn't your problem either way.

MummaB22 · 24/08/2022 22:16

Kudos to you OP. I lasted 1 year with a man like this + he had really bad drinking problems! I couldn't handle the "if you leave I'll kill myself" ... well I left. 5 years later + therapy I'm happier than ever and now have the most amazing partner and baby daughter.

You can't go on like this! If you can't do it for you, do it for your child! They deserve more. And so do you, even if you don't believe it yet 💐

Sandra1984 · 24/08/2022 22:24

It’s a toxic relationship because you’re enabling him. It’s like “don’t worry mum is here to clean and pat the bills so you can sit on the coach and continue being a waste of air”. If you dump him he would need to get his shyte together and you would be doing him a massive favour.

doodlywoodlydingdong · 24/08/2022 22:39

ShirleyJackson · 24/08/2022 04:45

I can’t understand why you are staying.

You’re getting nothing from this relationship. He sounds horrific.

Just leave. Tomorrow, if possible. Don’t waste another second of your life.

Agree with this. It is not your job to rehabilitate him. You should be focusing on raising your child , not trying to rehab an adult.

mathanxiety · 24/08/2022 23:03

Feeling sorry for someone is the absolute worst reason to stay with them.

This man has been self medicating ever since your relationship started, first with alcohol, now with food and gaming. He won't accept he has a problem, has no motivation to address it, and he expects you to carry him - forever? That would be disastrous for both of you, and for your child.

Your child will be fine living without his father. You will have more energy for him when you're not dealing with the stress and frustration this man generates. You can arrange some form of contact. He can leave whatever place he ends up living in and see you both at a park or soft play if he values contact.

You are lucky that you are living under a rolling tenency.

Find a new place for yourself.

Pack your things, and leave with a clear conscience.

Lucyintheskywithrubies · 24/08/2022 23:20

Do you work OP? If not how do you manage financially?