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Is it my fault my sister lied to me?

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Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 20:04

A year ago, my partner of several years told me that the relationship was over, relatively unexpectedly.

When I met him I had just come out of an abusive marriage, and quickly moved myself and kids in with him.

My younger sister at the time was quite lonely and didn’t have much of her own life or friends, so my partner would invite her over often to stay over, we would go out drinking together or for days out and I was concerned by the amount of flirting, dancing/hugging and ‘alone time’ they had. When I asked my partner to see the content of their private messages, he refused 🚩 but also gaslit me into thinking I was just damaged from my previous relationship and that he considered my sister as HIS little sister too, just family and that she needed someone to make her feel better.

I let this slide as he was very charming, flirted with everyone and I just thought because he wasn’t beating me, that this was a good man. He was good with my kids.

When he told me he didn’t love me anymore and for me to move out, I was pretty shocked. Things hadn’t been perfect, but we had been making plans for the future and I was happy.

During the break up, he moved out but didn’t tell me where he was going or reply to my texts begging for him to reconsider (not my finest hour) I messaged my sister and his family and friends and asked if anyone knew where he was, as he was quite distressed when he left and I was concerned about his mental health. My sister denied speaking to him. I finally did get hold of him, and he said him and my sister had indeed been speaking and she had known he was okay/where he was. I confronted her on this lie and she absolutely went crazy at me, screaming and shouting saying I am a total nutcase and shouldn’t have put her in this position and she doesn’t want to get involved. She then refused to take my calls.

Since moving out, other women messaged me and told me that my ex had been messaging them inappropriately for years but nothing had physically happened. I think that they’re either not being totally truthful or perhaps he would’ve cheated if given the green light by one of these women.

My sister has never divulged the extent of those text messages and we’ve never spoken about it. She just said he was a childish idiot and we’ve somewhat moved past it. 😑

However my mum has told me recently that a lot of this was my fault. My fault for loving him too much. And that I wouldn’t have listened if anyone had told me the truth at the time. All my family knew that he was texting my sister inappropriately. Noone told me.

So, is it my fault that no one told me? Because they allege I wouldn’t have believed or trusted that my sister didn’t physically do anything with him? My point is that family sat there at gatherings and parties and knew the truth of him but let me carry on wasting years of my life following him around like a love sick puppy, making a fool of myself without telling me, just incase I may have shot the messenger? Surely they should’ve told me whatever the consequences? I’m an open book and can’t abide secrets. But perhaps I’m in the wrong here?

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Maytodecember · 23/08/2022 20:12

How can it be your fault for “ loving him too much”? What a load of crap.

He’s not worth your headspace —- once a cheater, always a cheater.
Your sister should not have been having secret conversations with your bf.
Your mother, or another relative, should have spoken to you about his behaviour.

So his behaviour is wrong.
Your sister’s behaviour is wrong.
Blick him, block her and get on with your life without the,. They sound horrible.

OriginalUsername2 · 23/08/2022 20:12

Similar feelings here from my DP’s family not telling him something important because “he would have been angry” which resulted in all sorts of tension and secrets that could have been avoided if they’d had one back-bone between them.

londonlass71 · 23/08/2022 20:16

Your sister is a prick and so is he. Your mum is also a weirdo. How is any of this your fault? I'd block everyone and just move on

Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 20:16

This is my feelings. I can’t understand how they all sat there at family events and could watch me with him and not feel guilt enough to let me know. It’s messed my head up quite a bit now especially being blamed for it as well!!

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Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 23/08/2022 20:17

With a family like that it’s little wonder you’ve ended up in successive abusive relationships.

Have you done the Freedom Program? Well worth it before any other relationships.

And hopefully you’ll be able to see your mum and sister more clearly. Screams of manipulation and gaslighting from them too.

Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 20:20

Thank you, I did the Freedom Programme after my abusive marriage but I don’t think I gave it enough time or healing before jumping into that last relationship. I still didn’t see the red flags! I will buy the Dominator book again before I embark on relationships. To be honest I’m just going to concentrate on my wee ones now and probably stay single for as long as possible. This all affected them massively as well as they were close with my exes family 😔

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Viostep · 23/08/2022 20:23

I couldn't forgive that. Your family are supposed to have your back. I would cut contact with the lot of them. Just full on ghost them, block them everywhere and even move home if that was possible. A fresh start away from the toxic people of your past and a chance to build another life. They really don't deserve you OP, it must hurt so much to be so betrayed by everyone

Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 20:25

I’ve actually moved up North, but I haven’t been able to cut them off. I think I was going to initially, but my mum was unwell and I got sucked back into talking to them all and it just seemed easier to ‘forget’ about it all and move on. He was even messaging my mum weird things during our break up as well 😔 she said it could’ve been explained away but to me it seemed like flirting. So messed up.

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Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 20:28

Thank you, I was sure someone should’ve told me! Even if it wasn’t my sister directly. I think what hurts so much is that I would never, ever do that to her. Or anyone! But especially not family! I can’t tell if she
enjoyed having that over me or not. Apparently he told her he ‘chose the wrong
sister.’ 😞 maybe she liked that thought. She will never feel that level of betrayal though, as I say I could never imagine doing that to her.

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Hopeandlove · 23/08/2022 20:30

Maytodecember · 23/08/2022 20:12

How can it be your fault for “ loving him too much”? What a load of crap.

He’s not worth your headspace —- once a cheater, always a cheater.
Your sister should not have been having secret conversations with your bf.
Your mother, or another relative, should have spoken to you about his behaviour.

So his behaviour is wrong.
Your sister’s behaviour is wrong.
Blick him, block her and get on with your life without the,. They sound horrible.

Yes go NC with your sister and get a counsellor - they are all gas lighting you and if your parents accept this - you need to look at your relationship with them
as they sound foul

Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 22:39

It all just feels so humiliating as well, when your family hide things from you. I’m so mortified

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user1471457751 · 23/08/2022 22:40

Would you have believed them? You were very quick to dismiss all the red flags around him and its well known that if you criticise someone's partner you risk pushing them closer together. You weren't exactly making good judgements by moving your kids in with a bloke you hardly knew after they already had the upheaval of an abusive household and the split. You were clearly besotted with this guy so perhaps they were worried about pushing you away.

Your sister though is definitely a dick. She has treated you appallingly by having, at the very least, inappropriate conversations with your boyfriend.

Please get some help, maybe therapy would be beneficial to you. In the meantime please don't rush into another relationship. You and your kids should be your priority.

Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 22:53

I certainly won’t be rushing into anything else, haven’t for a year and won’t be for a long time yet. My son has additional needs so I’m virtually housebound now so meeting someone is virtually impossible, and that’s fine by me. I know I’ve made mistakes and I’m looking into therapy.

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Thyra123 · 23/08/2022 22:54

She’s only have had to send me screenshots of his sleazy messages and I’d have no choice but to have believed. Plus my sixth sense was already telling me there was more going on, it only needed confirmation. Maybe then I could’ve left with some dignity.

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shockthemonkey · 24/08/2022 09:13

OP, you have a rotten family, rotten sister and of course your ex is a cheating bastard.

I had similar many years ago except that it progressed to sex between my sister and my bf... still it was my fault for falling in love with the wrong person. There was no blame at all on my sister, who was the one who sought him out and came on strong to him (she harboured a deep need to one-up me, especially romantically/sexually, she needed to take what was mine[.

It is SO not your fault. I would go very LC or even NC with all of these tossers.

shockthemonkey · 24/08/2022 09:15

PS I took a seven-year break from men, after that. I recommend a long time looking after yourself.

TooHotToTangoToo · 24/08/2022 10:04

Sounds like have a toxic relationship with your mum and sister, which might also explain why you picked an abusive man.

Thyra123 · 24/08/2022 10:38

Oh my goodness that’s awful!! I’m so sorry that happened to you.
I am anticipating a long break as well, I’m pretty traumatised from the last two relationships and I just want to be with my children and be at peace.

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shockthemonkey · 24/08/2022 11:14
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