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Had enough. Borderline neglect?

25 replies

Narcmotherhelp · 05/08/2022 07:48

Hello. This may seem long winded and abit of a moan, not really sure what I'll get from this but I am getting to the end of my teather to be honest.
We live in a lovely caldi-sac, majority of our neighbours are amazing and I consider them family. We have a house in the street who have a 4, almost 5 year old child.
I'll try to keep this as short as possible.
Now their little boy comes around, but I have had to put a stop to this as he has been spitting, telling my daughter and her other friends mean things (I'll stab you etc, etc), swearing and just overall abit too much.
He is left to his own devices majority of the day and will swing on our front gate and call her, will come in the garden whilst I have explained this is not okay as I have small dogs running free and my daughter doesn't want to play right now.
Not a peep from the parents who do not leave the house, but when he has taken toys from our garden and ran into his house with them, I have heard the parents say 'he doesn't understand' and plaster all over social media about his 'autism' journey.
He is left to run up, down and across the street without supervision. Has been going though our own and neighbours bins, plays with rubbish, knocks houses and then runs away and will follow people up and down the street. Once again, not a word from parents. I have had to shout across to him multiple times when he has run in front of cars, was putting his face into our neighbours fence who own an unfriendly dog.
The parents are not approachable and have twist everything back to 'he doesn't understand, it's his autism and adhd' and will blast you on social media. Now I know people will call be a cow with me saying that, I am not saying he doesn't have what the parents are claiming. But to constantly post (when I had them as friends on social media) about this, and then let him unsupervised almost all day is wrong.
I don't know what to do. We take other neighbours along with us on walks and days out, and have always been friendly and allowed our garden to be open to the children but now it is too much.
As I was writing this he has come in our garden and taken our ball and he and the parents refused to give it back! I have had a titfull and not sure what I can do.

Would social services look at his? Their two other children still of young age are left to go out alone and have both been reported 'missing' by the mum and were brought back by police but nothing seems to have ever been raised as it is worse now.

OP posts:
HairyScaryMonster · 05/08/2022 08:20

Yanbu this is so dangerous on so many levels. Additional needs mean they need more supervision rather than just excusing their behaviour.

KangarooKenny · 05/08/2022 08:44

He needs safeguarding, so an anonymous report to social services is what I’d do.

crosbystillsandmash · 05/08/2022 08:46

He's going through peoples bins?
This immediately jumped out at me, is the poor boy looking for food?

crosbystillsandmash · 05/08/2022 08:47

KangarooKenny · 05/08/2022 08:44

He needs safeguarding, so an anonymous report to social services is what I’d do.

Totally agree.
Please don't ignore what's going on, he needs somebody to speak up for him.

Dery · 05/08/2022 08:49

Another here who would make an anonymous report to social services. He is incredibly vulnerable - far too young to be wandering around unsupervised.

exnewwifeproblems · 05/08/2022 08:50

Why have you posted this again?

orangeisthenewpuce · 05/08/2022 08:50

Social Services referral immediately. And lock or tie your gate shut.

giffyg · 05/08/2022 08:53

We live in a lovely caldi-sac,

?

Wartywart · 05/08/2022 08:57

Yes refer to social services. It may be that the parents also struggle with ASD and/or ADHD themselves but are undiagnosed (these things can be hereditary). They clearly need help though and social services will hopefully be able to provide that.

Gazelda · 05/08/2022 08:58

giffyg · 05/08/2022 08:53

We live in a lovely caldi-sac,

?

Really? FFS.

OP, you need to report this.

Blue4YOU · 05/08/2022 09:00

Cul-de-sac OP and seriously- you t Dr I know what to do. Call Social Services

exnewwifeproblems · 05/08/2022 09:00

This is at least your third thread on this. It would be better to keep everything to the one thread so that you can collate replies.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 05/08/2022 09:02

Definitely report this to social services - if he doesn't get hit by a car he is a sitting target for abuse. SS may or may not do anything, but you should report and keep a record of what you reported and who you spoke to and when, and let them know you are doing so.

PurpleSweetPeas · 05/08/2022 09:06

If you don't want to do a referral to children's services then the NSPCC are amazing and very supportive. Well worth a call to discuss your concerns. They can then make a referral on your behalf.

Isaidnoalready · 05/08/2022 09:08

Besides the point but how is he getting into your garden to steal things? Do you not lock your gate?

FlibbertyGiblets · 05/08/2022 09:13

You must secure your garden, even if only for insurance purposes and for keeping the dog safe.

crosbystillsandmash · 05/08/2022 09:19

@Narcmotherhelp

Op you don't live in a lovely cul-de-sac.
You live amongst people who sit and do nothing about a child in need.
That is far from my idea of lovely op.

wishuponastar1988 · 05/08/2022 09:29

Definitely report. This isn't borderline neglect it is neglect and the little boy is unsafe.

Narcmotherhelp · 05/08/2022 09:34

Thank you for all the comments. I will keep a record of incidents and report. Hopefully neighbours will also provide something. We do not sit back and watch, and will tell him off ourselves. The neighbours are not friendly and may retaliate as it will be obvious who has reported this.

OP posts:
crosbystillsandmash · 05/08/2022 09:40

You tell him off?!!
Wtf am I reading?

This poor boy needs your help. Do you not understand this?

Narcmotherhelp · 05/08/2022 09:43

Telling off may way be the wrong words, but we'll say he needs to go back into his own garden and stay in there where he is safe and to come away from strangers he speaks to.

OP posts:
Gazelda · 05/08/2022 13:25

So you're not going to report.

What's the point of keeping notes, or posting for advice?

wishuponastar1988 · 05/08/2022 15:06

Can you ring it through and report it today? Working in child protection sometimes it is like putting pieces of a puzzle together and one bit of information from a concerned friend/neighbour is what it takes to evidence harm to a child. Please please report your concerns.

TheOriginalClownfish · 05/08/2022 15:24

We had a neighbour's kid, not as bad as you describe but had a lot of behavioural issues. Mum was nice but wouldn't address destructive or violent behaviour because it was this unspecified and unexplained condition he apparently had.

Because he was otherwise well cared for, the only problem was his mother being soft as shit, SS wouldn't have given it the time of day so we didn't bother to report. In the end, we moved.

AmbushedByCake1 · 05/08/2022 15:30

You need to ring social services now.

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