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My ex husband abusing autistic daughter

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jewishmum · 27/07/2022 00:06

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Hi, I have two children. Elsa, 23 and has severe autism/learning disability and Vicky, 20 who has severe anxiety disorder.

The two girls have lived with my ex husband since I left him when they were about 8. I didn't want to leave my children, but I had mental problems and there was no way he would of given me custody and with a history of mental illness I didn't think I had a chance.

So I would just visit them up until 3 years ago when he called to say he had spinal injuries and couldn't get out of bed. So I moved back in.

The house was filthy. He hadn't even changed Elsa's bed covers and they were like rags. There was black mold on just about everything. I spent each day cleaning, repairing ect. I started shopping and cooking to make sure they were all eating healthy.

I would take Elsa on outings each week (as she is unable to go out on her own).. I also got on to social services and organised her to go out with Mencap weekly too.

I didn't tell anyone how badly neglected she had been as my only intention was to make life better for her and her dad and sister. I hadn't been a well person before, but now I have done a lot of work on my self I worked hard every day trying to make her a nice home again.

Her dad Richard was put on morphine for pain. He would lay in bed all day and hassle the doctor for more of it. He would often send me to the chemist and demand they give it to him.

This got worse until he stopped eating for three weeks, laying in bed. I called the doctor and they put him in hospital. He shouted that he did not want to stay there. They stopped his morphine cold turkey and discharged him a week later after he had racially abused most of the staff ( I really hate this and its so embarrassing to have anyone think I'm with him).. He came home and hired a JCB and completely wrecked the front and back garden. That was 6 weeks ago and it's still like a building site. That's not worrying me though.

He shouts at me nonstop, every word is a demand. He shouts at Vicky too. But it is Elsa who has no idea she is being abused because she has never experienced anything else. He antagonises her in to meltdowns and finds it amusing. She suffers with them and she jumps up and down screaming and hitting her own head. I've always tried to find calming techniques to help her and avoid meltdowns because she has a shunt in her head from a medical condition. But Richard is purposely saying and doing things to send her into meltdown and then he restrains her by pulling her arm around her back and upwards just like on those police TV shows. I have told him he must not do this as I have been taught the appropriate ways to restrain and not cruelly how he is doing it. I could go on and on so much mental abuse to Elsa.

Now he has said that she cannot go out with Mencap anymore because it costs him too much money and he doesn't believe they restrain her well enough.

His emotional control over my other daughter Vicky is sickening too. For example, she was having a panic attack, and wanted to go to her grandparents house for the night because she thought her dad's cigarette smoke was making it worse. I was taking her there in the car and he called up and it was on loudspeaker and he shouted at her to get home and that if she didn't he would do something awful to himself. Also she can't go out without him making her feel guilty. I have tried so many times to get her to leave her dad, even just for a break and she won't do it because he makes her feel responsible for him. I could go on and on.

Elsa does not have the mental capacity to understand any of this and I have found out that he has been poisoning them against me for all these years, telling the girls that I don't want them. I can't even defend myself in front of Elsa as she is so paranoid, if I say to Richard that he is a cruel bastard then Elsa immediately runs in and screaming that I'm talking about her.

I love her and I'm just so tired with his behaviour, but I refuse to leave the girls, but I really want to get away from him but I can't leave them and I'm sorry I did before but I'm trying my hardest these three years. I have no where to take then to live and also two dogs. I own the house with him and Elsa could never leave. I feel like we are all so stuck.

OP posts:
londonlass71 · 27/07/2022 00:38

Wow this is abuse. You need to leave with the girls get to safe house. Your children can be taken away for you for this. Why would you even want to be near him?

Onlyhereforthebatshitneighbours · 27/07/2022 00:41

Speak to womens aid and refuge.org.uk.

Social services may also be able to help.

I am so sorry you're in this situation but there is hope and you can get out of this with support from the right people.

CthulhuInDisguise · 27/07/2022 00:49

@londonlass71 the children are both adults...

OP this is really upsetting to read. I don't say this lightly but it's criminal behaviour, report to the police. Can you take your girls from there to somewhere safe?

londonlass71 · 27/07/2022 06:33

CthulhuInDisguise · 27/07/2022 00:49

@londonlass71 the children are both adults...

OP this is really upsetting to read. I don't say this lightly but it's criminal behaviour, report to the police. Can you take your girls from there to somewhere safe?

Regardless they ate vulnerable

londonlass71 · 27/07/2022 06:34

Are** and she needs to keep them safe

Tangelablue · 27/07/2022 06:57

Do you think your mental health was bad in the past due to living with him? It sounds like the restraint holds he is using are not safe, does your daughter ever have bruises from him? I think its time to reach out for support to get yourself and daughters to safety. Speak to women's aid, social services and police for advice and support. I hope things get better for your daughters and yourself.

Nat6999 · 27/07/2022 07:09

Report him to SS, get yourself a good solicitor & fight to get them back or even just take them back to yours, if there is no court order there isn't much he can do. From what you have said it sounds like most of your MH problems were caused by him as well.

Dinogirl50 · 27/07/2022 07:14

Fucking hell
the mum is facilitating this behaviour by hiding it
police ,social services,refuge ,
get those girls out of there .
have you got photos to prove how bad the neglect was when you moved back in and started cleaning
that was the time to involve agencies…
im shocked the mum has covered this up

Dinogirl50 · 27/07/2022 07:19

If you have a home ,just pack the girls stuff and leave .
im a mum to 2 with autism ,I can’t understand why you hid this
if you had got agencies involved the minute you turned up to find the place as it was ,they would of removed the girls to your care .or at least a place of safety
I think perhaps mum has learning difficulties as well as daughter,would explain her doing nothing for 3 years except clean

Randomthoughts992 · 27/07/2022 07:26

Not sure why Your letting your ex abuse your girls to be honest, they are not children so not like you have to have a custody battle just take them and go, don't look back.

LaurieFairyCake · 27/07/2022 07:34

From what the OP has said they are conditioned to the abuse and unlikely to leave of their own volition - they literally know no different

You're going to have to report to Adult social services for them to do an assessment Flowers

Cervinia · 27/07/2022 07:39

Yes to adult social services, you do it OP, your “friend” doesn’t seem able. What an awful, fucked up, upsetting, chaotic family.

daretodenim · 27/07/2022 07:41

A friend of mine lift her kids with her ex due to being brainwashed by new abusive ex. She suffers so much shame for it. I wonder if you feel similar and that's why you've hidden what's going on.

Right now the past is totally irrelevant. It's crucial that you act in the best interests of your daughters now. I don't know who is best but adult social services and the police and basically anybody else who will listen and may be able to help is where you need to go, today.

daretodenim · 27/07/2022 07:42

*your friend

gamerchick · 27/07/2022 07:59

Hiding it makes you complicit. Time to start telling the world and getting the authorities involved. I hope you took photos of the state of the house before you cleaned it.

gamerchick · 27/07/2022 08:00

And next time he 'restrains' your daughter. Phone the fucking police and get the bastard lifted.

WudYouSayItInRealLife · 27/07/2022 08:05

As PP said try recording or filming some of the abuse. However you don't need to as the police would deal with it urgently anyway.
Please get help for you and your daughters urgently

triballeader · 27/07/2022 08:49

Call adult social services to report the abuse of an adult, your daughter, with significant vulnerabilities. That is not how you treat anyone with a profound level of autism and frankly if a care worker were to do so they would be charged and struck off. Not every dad is a good dad just because they are a person’s father. Please do not fear social services. They really will try to help those who engage with them and look at what is best for an adult with vulnerabilities. In all honesty my eldest son, profound autism with bi-polar, severe anxiety disorder, but bright, has had social services involvement since 14 when he was made a child in need then an adult with significant vulnerabilities. His best social worker worked to join up all the agencies involved to create a supportive package that works for him. He now lives in his own in a support towards independence flat. TBH the funding for this was only possible as he has been on SS radar for years.

jewishmum · 27/07/2022 11:19

The names are changed to fake names and not the true names of the people.

OP posts:
HopeMumsnet · 27/07/2022 12:02

Hi there,
We have checked with the OP and she says that the real names aren't being used. Thanks to those of you who reported to check.

HoppingPavlova · 27/07/2022 12:07

Contact adult social services and they can decide whether to make an assessment.

Funkykitty · 27/07/2022 18:18

Oh OP you doing what any loving mother would do looking after them. Now you must try to gather evidence if you can. Contact social services you will need their help. The next time he lays a hand on them you must report it to the police.

OriginalUsername2 · 27/07/2022 19:13

I understand. I advise that you act normal, gather evidence for a week, then write out what’s happened in full. Give the writing and the evidence to the police, social services and a womens charity, all at the same time. You need to create an influx of help.

PPs have posted good ideas for gathering evidence.

You can’t fix this alone. But you must be careful along the way. Remember the courts and social services can only act on evidence.

It will be a hard process but it’s the only way forward. Be the rock your very confused girls need.

Livelovebehappy · 27/07/2022 20:23

This is what happens when children are let down by the adults (their parents) who are supposed to protect them. They grow up to be screwed up adults with mental health issues. It’s a really sad situation. Hopefully social services can advise.

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