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21 replies

raindrops21 · 26/07/2022 00:18

So I'm sorry of this is long. Been with DP for 12 years and have 2 DC. I'm lost with what to do I feel exhausted and hate going home to him from work every evening. He's constantly giving our about everything and negative. He is constantly giving out to me about everything, the way I dress, the way I eat he picks what on tv, he goes out about 3-4 times a week in the evening and I'm actually relieved when he does. Our eldest DC has ADHD and he is always giving out calling them names. We can't even go out as a family without him losing it and ruining the entire day 😔 am I horrible for ending it? We aren't married and I really want to someday, but I really don't think to him and I feel horrible! He always fights with me in front of the DC and calls me names etc but I feel so bad for them like I'm horrible for breaking up the family 😔 I'm so happy when I'm just with them two. They idolize him even though he can be so cruel to one child in perticular and it breaks my heart! When things are good I feel so so bad feeling this way, please any advice!!! He also wants sex when he does and keeps going and going till he gets it I feel bad if I don't and I'm not in the mood he'll keep touching me up. He is constantly touching my bum and boobs to a stage my DS is 11 and he starts doing it now!!

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Italiangreyhound · 26/07/2022 00:23

raindrops21 I am so sorry, this man sounds utterly appalling. Please get out, you deserve better.

See a solicitor and get legal advice. You do not need to stay in an unhappy relationship.

Wish44 · 26/07/2022 00:41

No you are not horrible for ending it.

It sounds like he is regularly abusive to you and your DC.

You would be right to protect yourself and your DC from this.

Maybe get a referral to primary care counselling to help you clarify your thoughts and a plan of action. Or Womens Aid. Good luck OP. It's so hard . He is entirely selfish.

LilyMarshall · 26/07/2022 00:43

No of course you do not stay. This is appalling.

raindrops21 · 26/07/2022 09:40

Thank you for your replies. How do you even start to leave 😞 I dread going home from work every day as I don't know what mood he'll be in! I know he'll tell DC I broke the family up and I don't want my DC to hate me!

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Watchkeys · 26/07/2022 10:04

Would you say someone else was horrible if they ended a relationship like this? What would your opinion be on what they should do?

ManAboutTown · 26/07/2022 10:18

He sounds like a prick of the highest order.

From experience kids are very resilient but they will pick up bad vibes between Mum and Dad. Kick him out and if he won't go leave yourself. Your children will be better off in the long term in a calm loving home

wellhelloitsme · 26/07/2022 11:01

He also wants sex when he does and keeps going and going till he gets it I feel bad if I don't and I'm not in the mood he'll keep touching me up. He is constantly touching my bum and boobs to a stage my DS is 11 and he starts doing it now!!

He is sexually coercing, sexually harassing and sexually abusing you.

He is exposing your DS to this sexual harassment to the extent he is mimicking these behaviours. This exposure is chile abuse.

You cannot stay in this relationship and be happy and healthy.

Your DS cannot continue living under the same roof as an abuser and be happy and healthy.

You must leave this man.

MrMrsJones · 26/07/2022 11:14

Your children don't idolise him, they are desperate for attention and so are conforming to him to get a little attention.

He is not a good man

Who owns the home?
Is it rented or owned?
Get this bit sorted first

raindrops21 · 26/07/2022 12:15

Thanks for your reply.

I've a council home that I got with my eldest, so it's my name and he is down as on the rent then..he insists it's his and I've no right to it. And is always saying I'm punching above with him and should be lucky.

He is father to the both of them but we broke up for a while when I got it. If I had to leave I'd never be able to get a mortgage!

Is always belittling me and my job, his is always more important and I should be doing everything around the home as I'm the women of the house and always calls me 'woman' which I say I hate!

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Bunty55 · 26/07/2022 12:19

I think you need to evict this man. I am sure you can. You need to get advice

Maybeebebe · 26/07/2022 12:19

He is constantly touching my bum and boobs to a stage my DS is 11 and he starts doing it now!!

Your 11 year old child is copying this abusive behaviour and you haven't left yet??

Wake up, kick him out

wellhelloitsme · 26/07/2022 12:23

raindrops21 · 26/07/2022 12:15

Thanks for your reply.

I've a council home that I got with my eldest, so it's my name and he is down as on the rent then..he insists it's his and I've no right to it. And is always saying I'm punching above with him and should be lucky.

He is father to the both of them but we broke up for a while when I got it. If I had to leave I'd never be able to get a mortgage!

Is always belittling me and my job, his is always more important and I should be doing everything around the home as I'm the women of the house and always calls me 'woman' which I say I hate!

Call the relevant council dept and tell them that you are being sexually coerced, sexually harassed and sexually abused by your partner so you need help evicting him from your council property. Him being on the rent shouldn't affect this.

He's literally committing sexual offences against you. In your home. In front of your child.

The damage to your child, as well as you, will be worse the longer you stay.

Everything else can be sorted once he's gone.

CatsAreCrackers · 26/07/2022 12:57

Speak to the council and explain and find out how to remove him from anything to do with YOUR house. Then kick him out and when it comes to custody, ensure you inform the relevant bodies about the fact that he has sexually abused you so much in front of the children that one of them is now copying him so at most he gets supervised access. Then, and probably most importantly, get help / therapy for your son so that he realises what he is doing is wrong. You must also kindly (it's not his fault after all) but firmly sit him down and explain that touching a woman like that is wrong.

raindrops21 · 26/07/2022 13:48

I don't know why it's so hard to do! He's always telling me he's only with me for the DC. He's told DC if we split it's my fault so I know they'll think that and be devastated 😞

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Funkykitty · 26/07/2022 15:16

Him displaying sexualised behaviour in front of your children is hughly damaging to them. Kick is ass out. Next time he touches you report him to the police.

raindrops21 · 27/07/2022 12:30

Funkykitty · 26/07/2022 15:16

Him displaying sexualised behaviour in front of your children is hughly damaging to them. Kick is ass out. Next time he touches you report him to the police.

Thanks 😊 I do know that it's hard when he won't leave and tells dc in front of you so to them you are the bad person and they are screaming crying! It's hard you end up thinking of the good things and times together! It's a cycle I need to find a way out of 😭

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wellhelloitsme · 27/07/2022 12:38

You staying is so much more damaging to the kids than you leaving.

Especially considering this heartbreaking fact:

They idolize him even though he can be so cruel to one child in perticular and it breaks my heart!

And the fact that by sexually harassing and abusing you in front of them, through unwanted touching, he is teaching his own to act in the same way:

He is constantly touching my bum and boobs to a stage my DS is 11 and he starts doing it now!

What happens when your son does this to girls at school? Or to women? He's being taught to behave in a sexually inappropriate and dominant way due to his fathers behaviour and your acceptance of it by staying.

I know that's hard to hear but while you're absolutely a victim of a terrible man's abuse, you have the choice to leave but your children don't.

You need to do the right thing for them, not keep them in an abusive (emotionally and sexually) environment because you don't want them to think of you as the bad guy.

They won't long term as they'll see their dad for what he is and more importantly, them liking you shouldn't be more important than them being safe.

He's never going to put them first so unfortunately that means you have to do so.

He's teaching your son to touch women inappropriately and being especially cruel to one of the kids. Aka bullying them.

You seem numb to the level of harm this is causing them.

Dery · 27/07/2022 12:41

He’s worn you down so much that you’re not thinking straight. Your partner is abusive. He is a criminal. You and your children are his victims, living with him at the crime scene. He will not admit he is wrong. He will say what he wants to say. You have to ignore what he says. Stop looking to him for validation and approval.

Your eldest is already so damaged that he is, unknowingly, also sexually abusing you. The damage to him will only get worse. Your DC are the biggest victims in this.

Please take the necessary steps to get this man away from you. Ignore everything he says about you.

Do you have any support in real life?

raindrops21 · 27/07/2022 17:50

Dery · 27/07/2022 12:41

He’s worn you down so much that you’re not thinking straight. Your partner is abusive. He is a criminal. You and your children are his victims, living with him at the crime scene. He will not admit he is wrong. He will say what he wants to say. You have to ignore what he says. Stop looking to him for validation and approval.

Your eldest is already so damaged that he is, unknowingly, also sexually abusing you. The damage to him will only get worse. Your DC are the biggest victims in this.

Please take the necessary steps to get this man away from you. Ignore everything he says about you.

Do you have any support in real life?

Yeah I have great support. My family know some bits here and there but obviously would be horrified if I said everything so haven't yet. Once I do say more that's it then!

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Maytodecember · 27/07/2022 18:03

His behaviour is appalling and totally unacceptable.
You could call a housing officer at your local council. State that you are enquiring and your partner must NOT know you have enquired if you can make him leave.
Once you have the word on housing, you can move forward.
Your local council, Women’s Aid will advise you.
Be calm with your children, tell them the relationship was not working and making you very unhappy. You don’t want to be an unhappy mum to them and reassure them that you love them very much. If they see their father and he says things about you tell the children it’s not kind to say mean things about people is it. And you don’t say mean things about dad. They’ll take their lead from you.

Stay strong, you can do this.

wellhelloitsme · 27/07/2022 18:25

When you doubt yourself or wonder whether you're overreacting, read this excellent summary from a PP over and over so you realise you've been under reacting because he's conditioned you to think this is normal.

Your son is sexually assaulting you because he's been taught to. What happens when that's aimed at a girl his age? Or a girl younger than him? Or a woman who is a stranger?

There is so much damage being done in your home. Please listen to PP:

He’s worn you down so much that you’re not thinking straight. Your partner is abusive. He is a criminal. You and your children are his victims, living with him at the crime scene. He will not admit he is wrong. He will say what he wants to say. You have to ignore what he says. Stop looking to him for validation and approval.

Your eldest is already so damaged that he is, unknowingly, also sexually abusing you. The damage to him will only get worse. Your DC are the biggest victims in this.

Please take the necessary steps to get this man away from you. Ignore everything he says about you.

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