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Why does she do this? Mum / Daughter relationship/Long sorry

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denbigh · 23/07/2022 23:36

For context I will give a brief background
I left home at 18, was a single parent from 27, never had a good relationship with either of my parents until 2017 onward, after a lot of therapy and self taught patience. Graduated as an adult, worked hard, am now in a senior management position in my field, both my kids have graduated as well, I've done good, despite the obstacles/finances/ lack of support.

My dad died in Jan this year under difficult circumstances, since then I've been struggling to "be there" for my mum, and also deal with the loss and all the feelings I had suppressed for nearly 30 years.

I have routine to see her every Sat, take her shopping, cook..hang out, and its been ok.. not great but ok.
She has a habit of "arguing" with me about a lot of things..some relavant, mostly not, I've taken a deep breath and carried on. Her MO has always been to cite/ quote other people in her arguments, people who's opinion obviously means more than mine. She's always done this, I suspect she has Narcissist traits, I was the scapegoat for the family, hence me leaving at 18 and leading my own life.

If she cant find an argument she will "pick" at things..my hair, my clothes, the tidiness of my car, the way i roll chapattis, sometimes i sense she just looks but stops herself, as i have, because she's a lonely widow, she is alone a lot and I want to do right by her.

Currently She is recovering from Covid, I've been round, made her food, cleaned her house, bought her shopping, today I decided to spend the day with her..

I have been in touch with a law firm regarding my Fathers passing- cut a long story short they advised me to not go ahead, which is fine, so I told her this whilst we were watching TV,
Her reaction- oh, ok.. well its because you left it too late.
I know there is a 3 year period in which one can take legal action, so I calmly told her this. Impassively she replied but ..Aliza (neighbour- single parent, worked as a cleaner, did a Phlebotomy course, is now working for the NHS drawing blood, 2 years in England from Poland, nice woman) BUT.. why is my Mum taking her word over mine? I said this to which she replied, but she's a nurse.. she knows these things.. and I felt the rage, I told her Aliza is NOT a nurse, she is a Phlebotomist, , why do you not believe me..??!

At that she turned to me and said, its been 7 months, of course its too late! 100% she didn't want to hear anything about my knowledge on the subject. so i stopped. I realised Alizas opinion carried much more weight than my own knowledge and thoughts on the subject (FYI- you can take action 3 years after).

And it made me sad.. I've sacrificed my social life, my time, to spend time with her, to help her, so she doesn't feel lonely, so the loss of Dad is bearable.. and she somehow manages to make me feel small, insignificant and useless. Like she always has, she diminishes me, and I still get hurt.

is there any point to carrying on with her? Previously if she pissed me off (eg-oohh you have got so FAT 03/2021 when i bought Dad back from a hospital appointment) I stayed away , till I was calmer and to "punish" her I guess. She always manages to do it again though.

Am i being a dick? Should i just ignore her, she's old, set in her ways and cant help herself? She is frail, small. Yet .. she can hurt me so much, even though I'm trying to be kind, be daughterly.. I feel so hurt, angry and confused.
any advice? please be nice, I'm feeling quite fragile.

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 23/07/2022 23:41

No, you're not 'being a dick'.

You are trying. You are being there. You are shopping and cleaning and running around... and all she does is criticise you.

I've been there (also 30 years, weirdly) and have recently told my Mum I'm not doing it any more. I haven't cut ties fully but she needs to understand how and why she has hurt me, and to let the dust settle a bit.

Do you have any siblings who can help?

I'm sorry about your Dad. It's hard for people who have 'perfect' families to understand that many of us don't.

Sounds like you've done a great job with your kids though. Congrats! I think you should be proud of yourself.

You can organise some help for her and then back off. I'm assuming she is still capable of doing her own shopping etc just choosing not to?

denbigh · 23/07/2022 23:51

Thanks for reply @GreenFingersWouldBeHandy
2 siblings, useless Older sister who My Mum waits on hand and Foot (im nt kidding- shes 48, my mum makes her breakfast/packed lunch and takes her dinner up when shes back from work..why.. Oh shes Fragile..)
younger brother, junkie , lives with wife unless hes at his GFs.. doesnt speak to her at all, even though she looks after his youngest...
she does go alone but i feel so bad for her!! i just want to do the right thing, what my dad would have wanted me to do, and its not hard, until she makes it hard, its like she cant fckn help herself..

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 24/07/2022 00:08

Sounds like your older sister is more than capable of picking up the slack here. And if your Mum is running around making a grown woman packed lunches and dinners, your Mum is more than capable of looking after herself. She is choosing to make you feel like shit.

Your Dad would want you to look after yourself and your children. Don't been drawn in by the guilt (easy to say I know, but been there and done that). My Mum has told me for years (she is a widow too) that she is 'as vulnerable as a crocodile; so I've just taken her at her word for now.

denbigh · 24/07/2022 00:16

That's brilliant " as vulnerable as a crocodile " made me smile @GreenFingersWouldBeHandy

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YesterdaysTomorrow · 24/07/2022 00:30

Gosh you have done so well and you are also very generous. What you are doing for your mother is a lifeline to her.

The problem of course is that it is a death line for you, unsustainable.

I get that your mum is freshly bereaved and that grief manifests so differently for everyone but she is abusing you and you mustn’t put up with it.

Do you want to see her at all?

What about cutting back to once a month?

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