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Husband frustrated by lack of alone time

46 replies

Rvd · 19/07/2022 10:08

Hello, I am looking for a sanity check and advice if possible. My daughter is 4 years old and has a disability. Not a major one, but she needs emotional and physical development support. My husband and I got together a little later in life and I am his second marriage. We agreed before getting together that we would have a child together but when I accidentally got pregnant, he said he didn't want one anymore. I was very upset and said I couldn't do that so we agreed to go ahead with it. Naively, I thought that once the baby was here he would grow into being a father and the love for her would over-ride any doubts he'd had. I - also naively - made a promise that nothing would change in our relationship and I would still ensure I made time for us as a couple. I did not appreciate how hard children are to raise!!!! After our daughter was born, I was very aware that I needed to give him time to grow into being a new dad so I did everything. Every single feed, every single night time get up (even when back at work), every nappy, every bedtime story etc.etc. I have tried to encourage and support their relationship and give him space to be the father he wants to be. He does love her and gives her a lot of love and cuddles, but does nothing practical at all. So, I'd say he's doing ok as a loving father but not helpful as a supportive partner. She adores him and I am doing my best to nurture that and make sure she knows she is loved. The problem is that we often argue about how I don't make time for him and how I am only focused on our daughter. In a bad month this can be 2-3 times a week, in a good month this can just be maybe 1-2 times a month. He says that I don't make any time for him or us as a couple and all I care about is being a mum. I obviously love my daughter an incredible amount and want to ensure she has all the love and support possible, but I also have to do all practical care and all the cooking, washing and cleaning and I work full time so my argument is there is little time available OR headspace and if he could help a bit more with our relationship or even household stuff OR even our daughter then it would give me more time to think about things for us to do. I should also add that we don't live near family and don't have friends that can help out (we've just moved to a new area) so I am a little on my own with managing it all and therefore finding a babysitter, for example, is also hard.

I guess I need to know if I am being unreasonable in thinking that he is being an idiot (sometimes) and whether this is a hopeless situation. I worry about the impact this has on my daughter. We never argue in front of her and she doesn't ever hear from him or me that he is frustrated , but I am not sure it's healthy for her to grow up seeing me accept this volume of responsibility or for her to be chasing 'time' from her father as whilst he gives her love, he doesn't give her his time very often. I worry I can never give him what he wants so it will always be a source of tension and sadness and frustration. However, she adores him and I worry about the impact of us separating too as she'd be so sad not to see him everyday and perhaps I should prioritise this element over all my other doubts and feelings? I feel very alone and like I am trying to keep my daughter's life happy and stable and my partner happy, but I am not sure what the right thing is for their happiness and mine.

OP posts:
BryceQuinlan · 19/07/2022 11:41

Why is any of this acceptable to you?

Turnthatoff · 19/07/2022 11:44

Remember when you were single and working full time? No kids? Life was pretty easy? You worked, you came home, ate, cleaned up after yourself, you kept a tidy(ish) house?

His life, right now, is easier than that. Let that sink in.

LittleOwl153 · 19/07/2022 11:48

Right. You work FULL TIME. I assume he works too and does similar hours?

That being true then EVERYTHING in the house needs splitting 50/50. That is your starting point. How can you have ANY RESPECT for someone who treats you like a maid? He is NOT HELPING YOU by sticking the hoover round - he is doing his job as a fully functioning adult. HE is responsible for taking care of HIMSELF. They only way in my view he can get out of these necessary activities is by earning enough to PAY someone else to do it for him such as hiring a cleaner. (None of that has anything to do with being a father - whether he wanted to be or not).

How could you want to spend time with anyone who has such lack of respect for you... let alone be intimate with someone who treats you like his mother... yuuk!

His attitude towards you daughter is also disgusting. Tbh it is this that would make me leave him as he is showing your daughter that treating you like a maid is acceptable. That it's fine for you to do everything whilst he sits on his ass making demands. That is not a great father figure. You do t say how old she is but you won't be able to hide it from her as she gets older. Infact if she's much more than 2 she will already know things aren't right and that doing the 'pick me dance' is the way to get daddy's attention... he can be a fantastic Disney dad every Sunday- if he can be bothered with that which I doubt he will!

evergreenforest · 19/07/2022 11:50

This part of your OP stood out for me

" I have tried to encourage and support their relationship and give him space to be the father he wants to be. "

What about the father his daughter needs him to be?

Or the husband you need him to be?

Everything is on his terms-where does he compromise or flex to allow you more time to yourself?

GreenManalishi · 19/07/2022 11:52

Ew. Lord no.

Divorce is not a disaster. It's not a disaster for a child to have happy parents living in seperate houses. Spending the rest of your life with this, I don't even know how to accurately describe him, would be a disaster for both you and for your DD.

Unless this is what you want her to choose for herself in future, to live a disrespected, people pleasing, washing, cooking, cleaning, fetching, carrying half life with no sense of who she is, then you'd be doing her a big favour to get out of there. Show her how it's done. Start now.

MsFrenchie · 19/07/2022 11:55

pinkyredrose · 19/07/2022 10:14

He's an idiot. How dare he change his mind about DC AFTER you got pregnant! Why do you do everything in the house, just why?

I'd find it difficult to have any respect for him tbh. If he doesn't step up then I'd be looking to leave. I can't see how being with him improves your life in any way.

Are people not allowed to change their mind after getting pregnant?

By that logic then do you think it’s also wrong for a woman to change her mind, and to have an abortion?

Where do you possibly get the idea from that once someone is pregnant that they can’t change their mind?

Rainbowqueeen · 19/07/2022 11:59

If you had no DC then he would be doing housework and cooking yes?? So why does having a child mean that he doesn’t do these things?

Why did his first marriage end?

I think he was dishonest with you originally in saying he wanted a child and he did that to stop you ending the relationship. Now he needs to man up and accept that he has a child and she deserves a decent father. And the first step in being a decent father is treating the mother of his child with respect and pulling his weight around the home

collieresponder88 · 19/07/2022 12:07

He does not sound like a good role model for your daughter. Why is t he helping you 50/50 with the housework etc. Maybe if he helped you you would have more time and energy for him. Reading between the lines I think his probably moaning about lack of sex. That's what they usually mean when they say they want more 'time' ! I think you need to talk to him and tell him you need him to step and be a proper man. He acts like a teenage so.

BlueKaftan · 19/07/2022 12:11

Right, so he wants more sex. 🙄

SallyWD · 19/07/2022 12:14

Whilst I do agree that it's important to make time for yourselves as a couple I think it's completely unfair that he's putting all this pressure on you to make it happen and actually blaming you for it not happening! It's actually outrageous. If he's letting you do ALL the childcare, housework etc whilst working full time how the hell does he expect you to have time and energy for romantic time with him?! If he wants this he needs to support you, help out in the house so you actually aren't run ragged and have time for him. I do all the housework myself as my husband works extremely long hours in a stressful job and I have easy part time work. I'm happy to do this. It works for us. However my DH accepts and understands that once the kids are in bed I'm exhausted! I've been on my feet all day and all I want is a bit of time to myself. We don't get much quality time together but he would never try and blame me or make me feel bad about it. I tell him if he wants us to have a nice evening together he needs to help out so I have some energy left.

GetThatHelmetOn · 19/07/2022 12:36

Nobody knows what kind of parent you are going to be until you have your child with you 24/7 what kind of parent you are going to be. I know women and men who hated the idea of having children with an absolute passion who are now totally besotted by his children now, while also know some people who desperately wanted to be parents and are absolutely shite at it. So I suggest to put behind you the idea that he didn’t want children because you agreed to have the baby when he decided to stay together while carrying on with the pregnancy.

I think the big issue here is that you have not let him step up to be a parent by doing everything for him and taking full responsibility taking care of the baby’s needs in full. Again, do not berate yourself for it, there are so many people in the same situation.

What is important is what comes next, what do you want from him (I’m sure you also need some time on your own regularly to catch up with yourself) and how you can get him to help more while giving him more space. Sometimes it may be as simple as giving him the responsibility to cook dinner, tidy after himself and do the bed time routine while you take a rest but if you want to get him to share 50% of the childcare, I strongly suggest you attend marriage counselling so he can understand and appreciate that raising kids together involves far more than “uncle..ing” (play with them a few minutes a day and hand them back when the fun stops/dad gets bored).

Catlover1970 · 19/07/2022 20:23

I think you’ve made a bit of a Rod for your own back by doing everything early on. He’s right - you do need to make time together as a couple - it’s really important. You need to talk frankly about how you both compromise and share the workload and the parenting. He needs to do more - you need to do less xx if he won’t meet you halfway then call time

collieresponder88 · 20/07/2022 15:39

BlueKaftan · 19/07/2022 12:11

Right, so he wants more sex. 🙄

Probably yes

Wafflybollocks · 20/07/2022 15:45

You're tip-toeing round a sexist man-child who is happy to see you work f/t, do all the child-care and housework and still wants more from you. What a reprehensible man.

Dogtooth · 20/07/2022 15:51

Right so you do all the
childcare
cleaning
cooking
washing
housework
mental load stuff (organising)

And he's doing none, then he's baffled as to why you're too exhausted to treat him like he's the best thing since sliced bread

When do you get time for yourself? When do you get looked after?

Did he know he didn't truly want a child but was stringing you along (not uncommon for women in late 30s/early 40s unfortunately)?

I'd want him to make a very large amount more effort, or else you're better off just looking after your daughter rather than him as well.

Dogtooth · 20/07/2022 15:56

As to whether you'd be failing your daughter if you broke up - no, this is an unhealthy situation and you need to model functional, positive relationships to her. Not 'daddy wasn't that keen on having you so I had to be a doormat for your benefit'.

You and your daughter are both worthy of love and respect, you shouldn't have to have this big anxiety in your life. It's like you have to pay your partner with affection for him to stick around and give your daughter affection. If A gives B attention then B gives C attention but B can't be expected to be a bloody grown up.

MintJulia · 20/07/2022 15:59

So while you bathe and put your daughter to bed, does he cook and serve dinner for you both or clear up downstairs if you have already eaten.

If he does, then you have the rest of the evening together. If he doesn't, then lack of time together is his fault not yours.

Your DH needs a few home truths explaining to him. How will he react to that? Take it on board? If so, great.

If not, why are you with someone who treats you as a domestic servant and then moans? He clearly doesn't make you happy. He doesn't care if you are overloaded or tired. He only cares about himself.

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Lozzerbmc · 20/07/2022 16:08

So you’re looking after your daughter, looking after everything in the house and all the cooking and working full time and he wants you to make more time for him?!!. What exactly is he doing? He is very selfish. What are you getting out of the relationship - who is looking out for you?

Triffid1 · 20/07/2022 16:10

Even if you could.magically find all this time.to spend with him, it's very hard to enjoy "alone time" with a man who is happy to make you do all the work. Resentment I'd a huge relationship killer.

Hrs also not a good dad. Sure, right now your dd adores him but she will figure out eventually that he's not actually interested in her.

Tell him research proves that men who do.m9re household tasks get more sex.

picklemewalnuts · 20/07/2022 16:15

Have you pointed out, if he pulled his weight you'd have more time for him?

Don't bother- he'll just do a bath and bedtime 'for you' and think he's earned sex.

Warn him that if he doesn't pull his finger out there won't be any couple time at all, because he's so busy worrying about time for him, he's making no time for you at all.

Bin. It will be easier on your own.

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