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Any hope?

17 replies

CluelessCher1 · 15/07/2022 07:57

Hi everyone. Looking for some advice. I met this guy last year. Thought he was single and broke up with his long term partner (10+ years together) almost a year earlier. Sounded like they were selling a house they owned, which was obviously a pretty expected loose end to tie up. Nothing to be concerned with. About a month after we started dating, he told me they were actually married, but separated. She had a new relationship and lived a few hours away. Waiting for no fault divorce to come in before the process could start. I wasn’t thrilled to be caught in that, but I liked him a lot and everything was great between us. The fact they were committed to a divorce and were already sorting out the sale of assets was a positive to me. We had loads in common, got each other’s humour, strong attraction, similar values etc. I understood it was risky, but I decided to keep dating him. We saw each other regularly and were exclusive. We were making plans to go away together for a short trip when, about a month on from the revelation about his circumstances, he pulled back from me.

It took a week or two, a chat over dinner and so on, before he admitted he wasn’t ready for a relationship. He still wanted to be able to see me and be in touch. He was in a lot of emotional turmoil, having had to be in contact with his ex (physically see her) to sort some things out. It was clear he hadn’t quite moved on enough from her to be with me. I was pretty upset, of course, but accepted it.

He contacted me a couple of weeks later to check I was ok. A short time after, we met up. It was lovely and he was affectionate with me, but it wasn’t anything like before. No holding hands or kissing, and certainly nothing else. He was always respectful, to be fair. I could sense this attraction was still there though. Said he wanted to see me again. I ended up asking him what he wanted, because it wasn’t easy for me to hang out with him with my feelings the way they are. He admitted he’d wanted a relationship with me, but realised because of his emotional state, it wasn’t the right thing for him. He could offer me friendship.

My close family and friends thought it would be hard but I could accept that offer and see how it plays out. I noticed afterwards that rather than no contact, so many sites online advise taking such offers, to stay connected and build momentum with someone, when you think they are someone you can seriously see a future with. So I agreed. I thought I could handle it and, by and large I have. We’ve got to know each other more and discovered more in common. He’s remained in touch, initiating a lot of messages. He keeps me in the loop about what’s happening with the divorce, but it’s not detailed and he does not lean on me emotionally over it. Sometimes we’ll chat all week and then go a week or so with a break. Other times we’ve had a streak of chatting consistently for weeks. Sometimes he flirts but it’s never inappropriate or too obvious. He does pull back if he’s had contact with his ex over the divorce, or had some dealings with the divorce stuff, so it can be a bit hot and cold. I don’t think he sees me as his friend, and it’s a way to keep me around, of course, on a level he can handle. We haven’t seen each other again, because he said he’s not ready. I’ve no idea what he needs to be ready for?

Of course I’ve wondered about being his “backup”. It’s horrible, because I like him so much. Lately I’ve found myself pulling back because I’m confused about what’s right for me. I’ve accepted he can’t give me a relationship, certainly not now, so I’ve been dating again. He seems to message if I’ve been online a lot/using the dating app we met on. He’s looked at my dating profile recently. Yes, he’s got a dating profile, he never actually took it down, so it’s not a new one. I think he goes on there a handful of times a week out of boredom/validation/checking on me.

Sorry for the long post. I’m not looking for
tough love and cliches like “if he wanted to he would”, because I think that’s more than fair when it applies to people who have no good reason to be idiots to others. A divorce is a pretty traumatic thing to go through. He’s about 18 months into his separation, with the divorce set to be finalised in mid autumn. I’m simply wondering whether anyone has positive stories of rekindling things when a complication like a divorce is done? Or is it inevitable I’ll need to cut ties and move on? I know he has feelings for me, and isn’t letting go of me. I just wish he could step up and be with me at some point 🙁

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Watchkeys · 15/07/2022 09:29

Jesus. He's got you dangling on a string. Why do you think this is good for you, rather than just walking away and recovering yourself?

jugglerofballs · 15/07/2022 09:34

Sorry, I have nothing but tough love to offer even though I know you don’t want it. He is stringing you along and you need to move on. He’s on the dating site(s) because he’s still looking. He’s keeping you as an option and in the meantime you are wasting time waiting around for him when you could be enjoying your life and finding someone else. Someone who will put you first. You deserve that.

Inthesameboatatmo · 15/07/2022 09:34

Walk away fgs . Too much drama. Raise your bar

AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/07/2022 09:36

This still married man has been actively playing with your emotions and he is not someone you should be involved with now; you're his plaything for when he is bored. Cut all ties now and move on with your life before he further wrecks your head.

Watchkeys · 15/07/2022 09:37

tough love and cliches like “if he wanted to he would”, because I think that’s more than fair when it applies to people who have no good reason to be idiots to others

So you think it's ok for him to treat you poorly as long as he has a good reason?

ermagerdabear · 15/07/2022 09:38

Please listen to the 'tough love'. You need to go no contact with this guy. He's playing you like a fiddle and even has you thinking he's 'one of the good ones' because he hasn't tried to shag you. He isn't.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/07/2022 09:40

Why would you even want to be with a man who started this relationship based on a massive, massive lie? The mind boggles. He's playing you.

Blanca87 · 15/07/2022 09:42

Yeah, you need to give your head a wobble, you are not in some episode of Dawson’s Creek, he really doesn’t seem interested.

Lozzerbmc · 15/07/2022 09:51

its a pretty miserable situation for you and he is keeping you dangling. He also lied at the start. He’s just not ready - you’d be ultimately happier moving on from this limbo

Annoyedwithmyself · 15/07/2022 09:51

He wasn't transparent at the start and he's now using you as a comfort blanket through a tough period in his life.

His behaviour towards you depends on whether he just seen his ex which means there are a lot of unresolved feelings there. You can bet your house that if he feels sexually frustrated one day, you will be the one he tries it on with. Don't be available to him, you didn't sign up to be intermittent emotional support. This isn't friendship.

Like you say, it doesn't necessarily mean he's a monster but he hasn't been considerate of you throughout.

If you want to save yourself hurt, maybe tell him that the current set up isn't working but you're not vetoing him getting in touch in the future once his divorce, emotional ties and practical matters are resolved. But please don't wait around for this to happen. It may not.

I have the feeling that if you accept crumbs now, as you are doing, he will associate you with this period and may want a clean break when it's all over. Of course, you're just friends so he won't be doing anything wrong when he tells you about a new woman he has met or that he's back online.

Accept this one may have been terrible timing, may or may not happen in future, but take control of what's happening now.

CluelessCher1 · 15/07/2022 19:27

Thanks everyone. Appreciate the advice.

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MadMadMadamMim · 15/07/2022 19:30

Don't wait around for someone like this. Whilst he knows he's got you hanging around he's in no hurry to NOT lose you.

This one is not meant to be.

Homewardbound2022 · 15/07/2022 19:41

Twice I became involved with newly-divorced men. Never again.
I felt they were "practising" with me as they entered the dating game after 20+ year marriages.

CluelessCher1 · 16/07/2022 06:15

I decided to just end it all and then delete him out of my phone so I can’t be tempted. Blocked him too so he can’t pull me back in. Hard but I was just delaying this. I know I let it go on for too long. I’ve always excused the lie because I believed what he said about being a private person, but he did actually lie at the start. I told him I had kids, and didn’t hide it, but he hid a big thing. At least I know from this to walk if another man turns out to be separated. I defiantly can’t do this again.

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birdsinthegarden · 16/07/2022 07:22

CluelessCher1 · 16/07/2022 06:15

I decided to just end it all and then delete him out of my phone so I can’t be tempted. Blocked him too so he can’t pull me back in. Hard but I was just delaying this. I know I let it go on for too long. I’ve always excused the lie because I believed what he said about being a private person, but he did actually lie at the start. I told him I had kids, and didn’t hide it, but he hid a big thing. At least I know from this to walk if another man turns out to be separated. I defiantly can’t do this again.

Oh wow, well done you! I was reading to the end of the thread and so glad to see you did this. You deserve to be so much more than someone's 'plan B'. The fact that he's still looking on OLD while keeping you as 'a friend' says that even though chap might be nice, he's a plate spinner.

You've done a good thing! Now time to lick your wounds and then get out there again!

Ohthatsexciting · 16/07/2022 07:23

Please tell me no children involved in this

Divebar2021 · 16/07/2022 07:37

so many sites online advise taking such offers, to stay connected and build momentum with someone

I can’t believe that so many sources ( including your family and friends) would expect you to put yourself through the emotional wringer on the off chance that he suddenly got his shit together. How desperate are they for you to have a relationship?

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