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DH lied.

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ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:24

DH has form for lying, he’s lied about tiny, insignificant things over the years, but he’s also lied about some big, shitty things too.

Each time he’s caught in a lie, I remind him of just how much I detest being lied to, he apologises and we attempt to move on - but it of course nibbles away at my trust each and every time.

Today, DH had meetings in London. I was told last night the meetings were a ‘big corporate spiel lasting from 9am to 5pm’. Anyway, I checked our tracking app that we have on our phones shortly after lunchtime, to see that DH wasn’t where I thought he would be (the HQ office), but was instead, in some random bar in a different area of London.

I messaged DH an hour or so later, asking him how he was getting on etc. He told me it was fine but a bit boring. I then asked him if his meeting was being held in the usual place and he stopped replying.

He got in this evening and I asked him what time the meeting ended up finishing, and if it’d been held at the HQ, to which I was told ‘yep, normal place, we finished up around half 4, was supposed to be 5 but they rushed through a couple bits so we could duck out a tiny bit early’.

Now, I can see from our app that he left the building where the meetings are held shortly after 2pm and was in a bar from then, until he left to get the train at around 5:30pm. When I asked him if he’d stayed and had any drinks, he told me that ‘once the meeting was finished, they left the HQ and he had one quick pint before getting the train’. I also asked him if the blokes from work were staying ‘out out’ for drinks after the meeting, and he told me they were apparently heading to a certain bar in Shoreditch. Well, I checked the app, and lo and behold, that bar that his colleagues were supposedly heading to ‘after’ DH had left, was in the fact, the bar DH had been sitting in for three hours.

For what it’s worth, the apps we use are never wrong. They might show you’re stood a few metres from where you actually are, but it would never show you as being MILES away from where you are, if you see what I mean. I can also tell when DH is lying by the level of (false) details he gives in answers.

I haven’t yet told DH that I know he’s bare face lied to me, but I am seething. He knows my stance on lying. He knows that above all else in life, I’m always, always going to be more mad about a lie than something he may or may not have done. It’s the lying. I can’t stand it. I don’t care that the meeting finished early. I don’t care that he sunk a couple pints in the midday sun. What I do care about is the fact he seemingly thinks so little of me, that lying about stupid shit is like a second nature to him.

Would you confront your DH if you knew he’d so breezily lied to you?

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Guiltypleasures001 · 14/07/2022 20:28

Ide sue for divorce

MolliciousIntent · 14/07/2022 20:30

When you get to the point where you're stalking your husband using GPS, your marriage is over.

Ontomatopea · 14/07/2022 20:31

Why do you have the tracking app on your phones? Is there a history of him not being where he says he was?

Terriblethirtytwos · 14/07/2022 20:31

I think I’d need to know why you were checking where he was, and why you think he might have lied? Does he usually lie about things that don’t matter? I would find that infuriating. But I also wouldn’t be checking to see where he was so I suppose I wouldn’t have known he’d lied, in this situation.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/07/2022 20:32

I’m afraid I would too. I’m not a serial LTBer but this must be chipping away everything that’s good about your marriage and your life with him. He treats you with contempt to lie to your face. He knows you’ve got a tracking app and still does it.

You must find it exhausting and enraging. And it must make you feel lonely, it would me. I’m really sorry, you deserve better but you can only have the same conversation so many times.

Cameronnorrieisabitofalright · 14/07/2022 20:33

In your dh's eyes your stance on lying is that you always forgive him.
Only you can break the chain op.

Caaarrrl · 14/07/2022 20:34

Why do you have a tracking app for your husband? That's not normal and maybe if there is so little trust between you, the relationship is over.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 14/07/2022 20:34

How many times does he have to lie, then you tell him you hate lying, and he lies again, before you just end it?

ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:34

@MolliciousIntent I actually had a genuine reason to check what he was up to today. I woke up this morning throwing up combined with diarrhoea - didn't take the DC's to school today because I didn't want to chance needing the toilet en route. So, I checked the app around lunchtime to see if he was out grabbing food, so that I could phone him and let him know I was still feeling really ill and ask him not to stay out having drinks once the meeting had finished at 5.

It was then that I saw he was no longer in the meeting and was instead having drinks rather than coming home to the woman who was vomiting while looking after our 3DC.

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reallyworriedjobhunter · 14/07/2022 20:34

I'd be asking why lie about this? Surely you'd just say we bunked off at 2 and went for a drink and a catch up? Unless something else was going on?

MolliciousIntent · 14/07/2022 20:35

@ireallyshouldntbesurprised that still sounds super weird to me, sorry - surely you just call, and if he can't pick up at that moment, he doesn't?

ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:36

We both have the app. We got them because I like him to know where I am if I go out on nights out alone in case anything should happen to me, and he rides a motorbike and has frequently got lost late at night down country lanes and has even broken down in the middle of nowhere with low phone battery.

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ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:38

@MolliciousIntent I didn't want to call him in the middle of a huge corporate meeting. He has his phone on silent, but my calls are set so that the ring tone still plays loudly. He's only recently started this job so yes, my preference was waiting to call him on his lunch, than when he was sat in a room with a hundred people.

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Stichintime · 14/07/2022 20:39

Once you have to track your husband for what ever reason ( unless medical, e.g fits or sudden onset amnesia) your marriage is over. Its not healthy at all. Why should you spend your time and energy tracking and comfronting him?

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 14/07/2022 20:39

I doubt confronting him would make muckle difference.

Continual lies would make me lose so much respect that I’d barely be able to look at him without contempt.

You poor bugger Flowers

ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:40

@Stichintime I've already said upthread that I woke up this morning vomiting bile alongside having diarrhoea. We have 3DC under 5. I checked the app to see if he was on lunch so I could call and speak to him. I didn't want to phone him during the meeting.

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Terriblethirtytwos · 14/07/2022 20:41

I mean I think the tracking thing is a bit odd but it sounds like you both are happy with it so fair enough. But you being really unwell and collecting kids from school while he sits in the pub and lies about it… That’s quite a big chunk of information to leave out of your OP! I’d be absolutely furious with him. What a disrespectful, unkind thing to do to the woman you’re supposed to love. Is he always such a prick?

IsAnyoneActuallyListening · 14/07/2022 20:44

The fact that you've got a tracking app says such a lot - your relationship is worthless and pointless as there's no trust.

youlightupmyday · 14/07/2022 20:46

You got a massive DH problem. I wouldn't live with it, what does your gut tell you?

FawnFrenchieMum · 14/07/2022 20:47

Did you actually call him and tell him you were ill?

ireallyshouldntbesurprised · 14/07/2022 20:47

Maybe I should've added in the OP why we have the apps - it was actually DH's suggestion that we get them after he got lost on his motorbike one night, far away from home. He was down a country lane, the maps on his phone weren't working and his battery was running low. He didn't want to find himself in that position again so we got the apps.

Yes, I checked it today to see if he was out for lunch so that I could call him and let him know that I was still vomiting while looking after our three small children and that I'd appreciate it if he could come home as soon as the meeting was over. I'd hardly call that a breach of trust.

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Iamsnoopy · 14/07/2022 20:47

Big lie little lie

sjxoxo · 14/07/2022 20:48

I would sit down and ask him again and say you knew where he was etc because of the app. I would say I am done with any lies, and that if there’s one more time he lies about anything, I’ll be leaving and the marriage is over. I think you’re fairly close to that tbh? He sounds childish, or like he has a communication problem? Why lie about such insignificant details.. has he ever told big lies? If yes I doubt you’ll be able to change his ways and I’d start thinking of what your life would look like without him. Do you communicate well? I think somethings amiss. Why has he lied about the event today and his finishing time etc? Is it a big reason ie another woman etc or is it he feels he is ‘skivving off’ and doesn’t want to tell you? You need a serious talk and if this continues I suggest you consider leaving. Good luck xxxx

pinkymurder · 14/07/2022 20:49

Stichintime · 14/07/2022 20:39

Once you have to track your husband for what ever reason ( unless medical, e.g fits or sudden onset amnesia) your marriage is over. Its not healthy at all. Why should you spend your time and energy tracking and comfronting him?

I don't agree with you here.

I do a lot of cycling including commuting, and have needed to cycle home often in the dark.

DH does a lot of hiking, sometimes solo, and his group all have Google maps their wives and their group leader.

For the above reasons we both feel better being able to check where the other is at times.

Also very handy to know how long til I get home for DH if he's doing dinner, if I have a 50 min cycle ahead.

And if the weather is terrible where he's hiking I like to be able to check his little avatar is moving about.

No historical cheating of distrust anywhere in our relationship. It's just convenient to have each other on maps.

DisforDarkChocolate · 14/07/2022 20:49

The thing is, you say he knows your stance being lied too. What he knows is that he lies and you put up with it.

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