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DH worries

17 replies

MumLass · 07/07/2022 12:38

NC for this.

I don’t know what response I’m looking for, I just need to get it out here as there isn’t anyone IRL I can talk to about it any detail. I love my DH dearly, and I’m worried about him.

He is damaged, he had a difficult childhood and has major self esteem issues and a lot of anger. His father didn’t want him (he was the product of an affair) and had very little to do with him until he was in his teens.

His mother has repeatedly over the years made it clear that falling pregnant with him was a mistake. She told him that her family wanted her to give him up/terminate. She thought about suicide. She’s even told me these things on numerous occasions, including that ‘FIL refused to use protection’ and that she ‘didn’t know she could get pregnant at the time of the month they DTD’.
She’d already had one pregnancy and ended it (with a different man, not FIL) so it’s not like she was naïve. She was in her 30s!

I do sympathise with her situation but imagine telling your own child that their existence wasn’t wanted by their father, their grandparents/aunts/uncles.
Even now, more than 40 years later she still says these things to him if he gets angry with her. To remind him that he should be grateful to even exist and all the subsequent sacrifices she made for him. She belittled him all his life, treats him so coldly and refuses to see that she could/should have done anything differently.

She packed him off to boarding school at the grand old age of 7.
Prior to that he remembers living with his mother and grandmother who argued constantly.

He did reconnect with his father in later life and he had been around us quite a bit over the years since our children were born, albeit never a close relationship.
He did however make my DH his executor. He died last year and my DH has had to run back and forth to Devon to sort out his house/estate and it’s still not finalized. One surprise in all this was that he lived a simple life, not at all giving the impression of wealth. His mother said she had to beg for every penny of financial support from him, he died last year and in dealing with his estate we find out he was worth in excess of £1.5 million (the vast majority of which is going to a charity for vulnerable children. The irony).

Losing his father has brought a lot of anger and unanswered questions to the fore. At the funeral we had to sit and listen to his father’s best friend talk about how FIL was the most wonderful godfather to his children (similar age to my DH), how he took them out and gave them wonderful experiences and memories. I wanted to scream for my poor DH. Another knife in the wound for him.

On top of all this he’s had struggles at work in the past year too. Bullying complaint (made by him against a senior member of staff) and a counter-claim for which my DH is now under investigation (he sent a ranting email to someone else in the management chain involved in his complaint. Not a smart move, done as a result of all the stress and upset he is going through. He acknowledges it shouldn’t have been done but I’m surprised it has gone as far a formal complaint).

His mother continues to antagonize and upset him, despite him telling her he doesn’t feel like he can be in contact with her right now.
It’s a mess, his head is a mess and I’m really worried about him.
There’s nothing I can do to help apart from be there to listen and reassure him I am on his side. I have suggested he get himself signed off with stress for a bit.
He’s not keen. I’ve suggested counselling for his feelings about his past but so far he isn’t receptive to that.

I really worry for his mental health, and that he might have a breakdown.

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AryaStarkWolf · 07/07/2022 12:50

He very clearly needs to speak to a professional about all this stuff and honestly probably cut contact with his toxic mother

Orgasmagorical · 07/07/2022 12:58

Poor man, what a lot he's had to deal with. I agree that cutting contact with his mother would probably be very beneficial. He doesn't need to tell her he's doing that, he can just do it. He might find it freeing.

The funeral thing would have had me raging too.

I also agree he really needs professional help to talk through the toxicity of his upbringing. I was once told it's like unravelling a pile of tangled up strings and laying them flat then rolling into their own little balls. They're still there but neatly stored, therefore easier to live with Flowers

LeuvenMan · 07/07/2022 13:01

Does his employer offer and EAP (employee assistance program)? We have one through work that's completely anonymous that's helped a few of us (stress, relationships, employment issues etc.
If he does it would be well worth accessing

Watchkeys · 07/07/2022 16:32

Is it impacting your relationship? If so, how? If not, why do feel you need to do more than make sure he knows you're supportive of him?

Littleraindrop15 · 07/07/2022 16:39

I would push for him to break contact with his mother she sounds toxic back then and even now.

Also if he could see someone professionally that would be great but if he's not willing you can't force him just be there for him l.

in terms of his job situation can he maybe apply for another similar job elsewhere. just sending in your notice once he's found another role will save him from all the work stress. He should also speak with ACAS they might be able to tell him more in terms of his rights etc..

but cutting contact with the mother will free him

Purplecatshopaholic · 07/07/2022 16:41

Well you go NC with the mother for sure. Should have done it years ago! Ignore the evil cow and stick to it. No shame in seeking support - my partner went through similar with his ‘parents’ and it screwed him up hugely, I sympathise. Get him to seek therapy from a variety of sources to see what works/sticks - eg GP, MH provider, private counselling if you afford it, EAP via employee, helplines. It will take time, there’s no quick fix. It’s great he has you, but take care of yourself too - I know from my own experience how hard it is being the one in your position.

StopStartStop · 07/07/2022 16:48

Therapy. Find a clinical psychologist. What was my last one? Senior Psychological Therapist. An ordinary 'counsellor' won't be enough, he needs long term with someone who knows what they're doing. I went through the NHS, it took ten years. Much of that time was spent jumping through hoops, having to do a six session course with a nice lady with an afternoon to spare and a certificate in counselling to reach the next level of someone with real training.

Your husband's background needs unpicking with someone who can lead him out of it. My lightbulb moment was when the therapist said 'You talk as if it's all happening now...' and I realised, for the first time, that it wasn't.

But there is hope. I am so much better. He might be able to heal, too.

MumLass · 07/07/2022 17:12

Thanks all. I've suggested he breaks all contact with his mother. He was very very low contact for a while but every so often she gets back in. I'll keep gently suggesting he shuts it down.

@StopStartStop that's really supportive, thank you.

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MumLass · 07/07/2022 17:13

Orgasmagorical · 07/07/2022 12:58

Poor man, what a lot he's had to deal with. I agree that cutting contact with his mother would probably be very beneficial. He doesn't need to tell her he's doing that, he can just do it. He might find it freeing.

The funeral thing would have had me raging too.

I also agree he really needs professional help to talk through the toxicity of his upbringing. I was once told it's like unravelling a pile of tangled up strings and laying them flat then rolling into their own little balls. They're still there but neatly stored, therefore easier to live with Flowers

I love this analogy, thank you. I will keep trying to get him to talk to someone. I really think he needs it.

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MumLass · 07/07/2022 17:14

Watchkeys · 07/07/2022 16:32

Is it impacting your relationship? If so, how? If not, why do feel you need to do more than make sure he knows you're supportive of him?

I don't feel I need to, I just wish I could. I can see the pain in him and it breaks my heart. He doesn't deserve it. If I could go back in a time machine and tell his parents how much they are messing him up I would.

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Watchkeys · 07/07/2022 18:43

There's nothing you can do but be there for him. It's understandable that you want to help him, but you're his partner, and he's yours. It doesn't involve this level of support. He needs professional support, and he needs to be the one who seeks it out and finds it.

SpookyButTrue · 07/07/2022 18:51

He needs to cut his mother out of his live immediately.

If you live near her, move away as soon as possible and get him lots of counselling.

What a crock of shit he has had to deal with! Not even a sniff of a gesture in his father's will either FFS!

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 07/07/2022 19:12

LeuvenMan · 07/07/2022 13:01

Does his employer offer and EAP (employee assistance program)? We have one through work that's completely anonymous that's helped a few of us (stress, relationships, employment issues etc.
If he does it would be well worth accessing

That would be good. And has DH got someone to helpdeal with the work complaint? Eg through his union, if he’s in a union. His family stresses are sure to have contributed to his behavioural problems at work. I agree with others he needs professional counselling too.

I sympathise with you both. And I would have been enraged by the father — being the ’nice’ godfather, neglecting his own son, using him as executor and rubbing DH’s innocent face in the neglect by leaving money to other children. I hope you put the friend straight about his children’s ‘wonderful’ godfather.

At least that’s over now. I hope you get rid of the final drop of poison by going non-contact with the mother.

Best of luck to you and DH. He is lucky to have your love and support.

MumLass · 07/07/2022 22:30

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 07/07/2022 19:12

That would be good. And has DH got someone to helpdeal with the work complaint? Eg through his union, if he’s in a union. His family stresses are sure to have contributed to his behavioural problems at work. I agree with others he needs professional counselling too.

I sympathise with you both. And I would have been enraged by the father — being the ’nice’ godfather, neglecting his own son, using him as executor and rubbing DH’s innocent face in the neglect by leaving money to other children. I hope you put the friend straight about his children’s ‘wonderful’ godfather.

At least that’s over now. I hope you get rid of the final drop of poison by going non-contact with the mother.

Best of luck to you and DH. He is lucky to have your love and support.

Thank you, this made me tear up! I didn’t say anything to the friend. It’s nit the friends fault, nor the godchildren that FIL was a shit Dad. He does have a nominated person at work who is helping represent him through this, a really lovely guy who has loads of experience and DH has known him for years, I’m really glad he’s on his team so to speak.

100 times yes to cutting his mum off and getting some professional help. I’ll keep trying!

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SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · 08/07/2022 13:35

You are clearly very concerned for your DH but what about you? It sounds as though everything is about him and his needs. You have your needs too, your life should not just revolve around supporting your DH. He has obviously had a bad time, but many of us have had horrible childhoods and manage to grow past the damage without inflicting it on our partners.

MumLass · 08/07/2022 13:44

SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · 08/07/2022 13:35

You are clearly very concerned for your DH but what about you? It sounds as though everything is about him and his needs. You have your needs too, your life should not just revolve around supporting your DH. He has obviously had a bad time, but many of us have had horrible childhoods and manage to grow past the damage without inflicting it on our partners.

Well of course I’m concerned about him. Would be a strange relationship if I wasn’t. It’s not all about him at all, he’s not weeping and wailing and begging me to fix it 🙄 Honestly, I do wonder at some of the relationships on here. Just because other people have come out of traumatic childhoods and been fine, doesn’t mean those who are damaged by it are any weaker or less of a person. He’s not inflicting anything on me.

Marriage (or any long-term relationship) is not just being ‘I’m alright jack, so you cope with your problems and don’t trouble me with them’. Why shouldn’t I be concerned, and want to support him? He supports me too, and has done through many ups and downs. It’s just that at this moment he’s the one going through a shitty time.

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Lozzerbmc · 09/07/2022 07:22

of course you want to support your DH how awful for him but hes lucky to have you. I Can only echo what others have said that he should go NC with his mum she is clearly a toxic person. Not all mums are good people! Why do it to himself its torture!

keep trying getting him to have counselling he really needs it. Would he prefer talking to a man? Could you check out local counsellors and see if you can find someone he thinks he would feel comfortable speaking to. Good luck you clearly are a wonderful wife!

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