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Handling Money in Marriage

14 replies

Questions99 · 04/07/2022 23:22

For many years of marriage, we shared all finances, I didn’t even have a solo account!
However, I earn a lot more than DH and have done for years, but ironically I’m the saver and he’s the spender. Is anyone else out there with a similar dynamic??
We’ve recently had to split our finances because his spending was spiralling so him having to budget his spending worked for us both, even though my desire was always and still is for us to pool everything, but that ideal just ended in disaster and nearly ended our marriage.
Also, we have very different views on work. I believe whilst you’re able you should work full time and save for ours, the the DC’s future. He’s much more laid back and able to not worry about the future. I envy his confidence but I accept we’re just different.
However, because he chooses not to work full time he has a lot less disposable income than I do. He works very few hours a week outside the home and could easily earn equal to if not more than me if he chose to. We’re careful with our bills, not frivolous and are managing month to month so he doesn’t need to earn more which is a luxurious position. We split the family bills 50/50 but I’m the only one who has any savings and I use them for family stuff, I don’t tend to spend much on myself.
My issue is he spends most (often all) of his disposable income on his hobbies which means when there are unexpected bills I have to cover them. It also means in practice I’m the only one trying to top up our joint/family savings account each month (before I spend on myself!) and he adds nothing because it’s all being spent on his own pursuits. He’s not a selfish person by nature - in fact he’s kind and very thoughtful. He just doesn’t want to work more and sometimes I think I am the mug for working full time and even worrying about all this!
But I do wrestle with this and I try to imagine if I was the DH and he was the wife whether I’d even be irked by this ‘inequality’.
AIBU? I think I just feel taken for granted financially as he’s leaving nothing for himself to fall back on and knows I’d never withhold money that was needed for him, or our family. I watch him enjoy spending money on his interests whilst I’m cautiously saving for rainy days.
I feel like I’m his financial safety net and I am working full time whilst he enjoys semi-retirement!
I swing between feeling completely unreasonable one day, to then feeling annoyed that things aren’t more equal. It’s the one thing that really pains me about our otherwise good marriage. I want to get over this issue in my own head and would appreciate thoughts.

OP posts:
Threetulips · 04/07/2022 23:27

There clearly is an issue. You are working to find his semi retirement, probably more so and he’s the cause of the worry.

You need to split the finances 50/50 and include savings - if he wants more spends he’ll have to earn them.

It’s a bit like children my £50 for a hoodie is worth less than £50 they’ve earned themselves.

And he is selfish!

you need sentences like ‘I feel used’ ‘I feel you don’t py your share’ ‘I feel it’s unfair that’

Soeak up for yourself otherwise you’ll be bitter and resentful. He’s not seeing this as a deal breaker .

Sisiwawa · 04/07/2022 23:30

He is being selfish and you need to discuss this with him. If it was the other way round would he be OK with it?
He works less hours than you and spends his spare money on himself basically, and you're covering all bases just in case. Not a fair arrangement.

billy1966 · 04/07/2022 23:42

He has a complete mug made out of you, as you well know.

You are being used.

For goodness sake do not have children with this lazy, selfish waster.

You are nothing more than his meal ticket and his work horse.

Add children into the mix and you will know real misery.

Wake up and start being honest about your life and what you want from it, because you are wasting time with a complete loser that is using you.

You deserve better.

mindutopia · 04/07/2022 23:55

I think if your incomes aren’t equal, you should each be paying into the joint pot proportionate to your incomes. This includes joint savings. Whatever is leftover is for each of you to spend. In this way, savings become just another bill like everything else. if he needs more, then he needs to earn more. I would also expect him to do more than half the school runs, housework, cooking, etc.

There are lots of women who work part time (myself included). I pay proportionately into the joint account each month, so overall Dh pays more. I have less of my own money to spend, but if I wanted more, I’d work for it. I do more of the school runs and other things around the house as I’m not working 50 hours a week.

billy1966 · 05/07/2022 00:16

I mis read, you already have children.

Oh OP!

Who carries the mental load?
Who does the lions share with the children?
Does he share the house work load considering how little he works?

If not, then you are getting a very poor deal.

Bananalanacake · 05/07/2022 12:00

Yes, I agree he should be doing most of the housework and shopping, cooking if he is choosing to work less and is therefore at home more often.

Viviennemary · 05/07/2022 12:06

The point is it is all very well to be financially dependent on your partner and not to work or to work part-time or in a low paid job. But if the partner is unhappy with the situation as you are then its a huge problem. I wouldn't happy with the situation either.

SIUUU · 05/07/2022 13:58

Unless there is a reason as to why he cannot work full time then he really needs to step up. The burden cannot be on one person and one person alone with respect to savings. It should be a joint effort.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/07/2022 14:24

Why did he choose not to work full time; was this due to his hobbies?. How much time per week is he devoting to these?. And what hobbies are we talking about here; road cycling for instance?. You may well call him kind and very thoughtful - but he is neither being kind or thoughtful in this particular respect.

What do you think your children are learning about relationships from you two?. After all you're giving them the reference points for them to emulate in their adult relationships. Is this really what you want to be showing them because currently at least, they are seeing this is acceptable to you.

MaChienEstUnDick · 05/07/2022 14:31

I think there's stuff to unpick here - mainly why he works part time. Was that to benefit the family, ie childcare? That does put a different complexion on things.

It's OK for people to have different attitudes to money, but people with different attitudes to money don't always do well in an 'all together' financial relationship. So I think you have to let go of your desire to pool everything - that's not ever going to work for you.

What I'm massively concerned about though (because I am a gimmer) is what your older age looks like. Is he paying into a pension? Are you? Is he planning to live off your pension? What do you see your life post-retirement looking like? Most importantly - can your husband change. Does he want to?

theemmadilemma · 05/07/2022 14:55

I'd agree you need to tweak it and include savings being 50/50. Have a family savings pot you both contribute to equally for all things house/kids/unexpected.

Then create your own savings pot if you want. Do treat yourself sometimes though too. :)

middleofthelittle · 06/07/2022 13:13

Split money on a percent of income, I.e both put 50% of individual income into joint account for bills and food ect and both put 10% of individual income in a joint savings account by standing order.

EG:
You earn £500pm
Joint Bills £250
Joint saving £50
Left with £200 for yourself

He earns £250
Joint bills £125
Joint savings £25
He is left with £100 for himself

Whatever is left you can each control.

He might not have anywhere near as much money left as you, but he is choosing to work part time for no valid reason so tough.

Totallyanonymousplease · 08/07/2022 18:28

Could you pool both your salaries and then jointly decide what a reasonable amount would be for each of you to have to spend on yourself for fun? Ideally both get the same amount.

altmember · 08/07/2022 19:00

This isn't a reverse is it?

When women come on here in the opposite situation and complain about unequal finances, the answer is pretty much unanimous that married couples should share all their income equally. He should be working similar hours per week to you though, unless he's caring for your young children as well? Or does he do all the domestic chores at home to even out the effort? If not, then perhaps you should consider splitting your disposable income in proportion to your working hours?

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