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Rant to make me feel better about attitude to SAHM who still work

24 replies

danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 12:25

DH used to have a female friend who was single, who was really anti having children. She caused a bit of an issue between me and DH because she came out with the old 'doesn't your wife work?' spiel, implying I was sponging. He actually fell for it because he accused me of not working when I was WFH.
DH and I worked this problem out over time but I felt like neither of them should have put me in the position of me having to justify myself. I think he feels quite ashamed about that period of his life.
Just want to rant that now she's in exactly the same position I was in. Two DC close in age, she's trying to maintain the business she ran before she had children, she's massively cut back on her work time to look after her DC.
I would just really, really hope now that she knows how hard it is to look after children and work at the same time that she remembers her attitude towards me and realises what a hypocrite she is. All SAHP who WFH part-time should be supported and not seen as spongers.

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TeapotTitties · 04/07/2022 12:27

I think you should learn to care a little less about what other people outside of your own relationship think.

Otherwise where would it end?

Dancingwithhyenas · 04/07/2022 12:30

YANBU and it’s amazing how women do this to one another! I have a relative who moaned and moaned about her male colleague who had to be home for bedtime and why couldn’t his wife who was a SAHM just do it all (with their multiple children). I was a SAHM at the time and thought just you wait…….

Lo and behold she is now not going back after maternity leave after baby number 2 and her DH is a hands on dad which means he does have to leave the office at a reasonable time!

I refrained from saying told you…

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 12:30

Are you sure it was her fault and your husband is as incapable of independent thought and so easily influenced as you think?

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 12:31

YANBU and it’s amazing how women do this to one another

um the person who actually did it was her husband.

TeapotTitties · 04/07/2022 12:31

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 12:30

Are you sure it was her fault and your husband is as incapable of independent thought and so easily influenced as you think?

And also incapable of seeing the OP's income?

danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 12:35

@Swimmingpoolsally you're right, I'm not sure.
I'm not absolving my husband from it. Who knows what caused him to not see reality for what it was? It might have been him rather than her that started the ball rolling. It might have been mutual ego massaging about how hard they both worked.

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Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 12:54

Sounds like he was blaming her, for his feelings. Ultimate he’s responsible for his own actions unless there is a back story of him having additional needs. If he doesn’t then it’s him who saw you as the sponger. He is your issue.

TeapotTitties · 04/07/2022 13:00

He actually fell for it because he accused me of not working when I was WFH.

Where did he think your wages were coming from?

That's the bit I don't get?

Cherclueless · 04/07/2022 13:10

A SAHP isn’t the same as one who works part time though. I’m very confused.

danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 13:15

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 12:54

Sounds like he was blaming her, for his feelings. Ultimate he’s responsible for his own actions unless there is a back story of him having additional needs. If he doesn’t then it’s him who saw you as the sponger. He is your issue.

So you're saying that he had subconscious resentment and it only came to the surface when he had someone to bounce off? That's a very persuasive suggestion considering he was keen to keep me and her separate. He couldn't have complained about me to anyone else since they all know me and the would have thought it farcical.

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danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 13:16

Cherclueless · 04/07/2022 13:10

A SAHP isn’t the same as one who works part time though. I’m very confused.

SAHP who works part-time from home, i.e. fits in work around the DC, when they sleep for instance.

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danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 13:17

I don't get it either @TeapotTitties and he said he doesn't now know what he was thinking.

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HarryPopper · 04/07/2022 14:39

If you are working part time you aren't a SAHM. It doesn't matter whether it's 15 hours a day shift once a week or 3 hours every day. It doesn't matter whether you work at night, noon or morning.
A wife or husband can't be sponging by staying at home or working less hours because whatever is earned is family money.

DiamanteDelia · 04/07/2022 14:42

This random woman is the least of your problems.

Your DH doesn't sound great- either easily led or else blaming his friend for his nasty attitude. Glad to hear he's not so bad now but it would put me off, sorry.

Mumoblue · 04/07/2022 14:43

Your DH has pulled a fast one if he’s managed to somehow convince you that his unreasonable behaviour is somehow his female friend’s fault.

And even if you weren’t working from home it’d be no issue as long as that’s what you and he decided. Stay at home parents aren’t “sponging”, they’re providing round the clock childcare and housework so that the working partner can focus on work.

Cherclueless · 04/07/2022 14:47

@danceswiththewolves You are a part time working mum with a work from home job.

You are not a SAHM.

As pedantic as that seems it is relevant as you do work. So you contribute to the family pot financially.

TBH, the whole thing is silly. The woman and your husband are pathetic if they actually belittled you because you didn’t work. Equally it could have been you being oversensitive. You sound smug now now so I’d forget about it.

Confuzzled19 · 04/07/2022 14:49

“All SAHP who WFH part-time should be supported and not seen as spongers.”

What about SAHP who don’t work at all? They also need support.

Are you sure you don’t agree with your husband and the woman? With such a contentious topic, I would be careful with wording.

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 14:52

So you're saying that he had subconscious resentment and it only came to the surface when he had someone to bounce off?

actually no, I’m saying he is fully aware of his resentment just didn’t wish to tell you it was him who had the issue and perceived you as that and so blamed her. It’s not uncommon an approach wirh sone folks.

the reality is even if this woman did say something he could easily have said nah she works and does child care, she’s full on. He didn’t. He accused you basically of laying around and sponging off him. The woman is irrelevant. It’s all him.

qpmz · 04/07/2022 14:53

I don't see how anyone can work at all if they're looking after small children at home. If a person WFH the kids should be in childcare.

takeitandleaveit · 04/07/2022 15:06

Aaaanyway..... (moving swiftly past all the derails)

Karma has struck, OP. Allow yourself a quiet smile, and then get on with your life.

danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 15:10

Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 14:52

So you're saying that he had subconscious resentment and it only came to the surface when he had someone to bounce off?

actually no, I’m saying he is fully aware of his resentment just didn’t wish to tell you it was him who had the issue and perceived you as that and so blamed her. It’s not uncommon an approach wirh sone folks.

the reality is even if this woman did say something he could easily have said nah she works and does child care, she’s full on. He didn’t. He accused you basically of laying around and sponging off him. The woman is irrelevant. It’s all him.

That would make sense @Swimmingpoolsally apart from the fact that there was 'evidence' for want of a better word, that I work. AFAIK he never said anything similar to anyone else and he never displayed any resentment ever to my face.

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danceswiththewolves · 04/07/2022 15:10

takeitandleaveit · 04/07/2022 15:06

Aaaanyway..... (moving swiftly past all the derails)

Karma has struck, OP. Allow yourself a quiet smile, and then get on with your life.

Haha thanks x

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Swimmingpoolsally · 04/07/2022 15:26

AFAIK he never said anything similar to anyone else and he never displayed any resentment ever to my face.

But he did display it to your face. He came right out with it. Ok he pretended he was passing it on from his “friend” but it was him to you.

AgentJohnson · 05/07/2022 18:20

Wait what! He deliberately kept you two apart but he conveniently let you know that she didn’t approve of you being at home, hmmm.

I remember my Ex telling me repeatedly what his friends thought of me. I strongly suspect that ‘their’ opinions were his and the spineless fu€# didn’t have de balls to say it to me directly. I told him that I gave zero fu£@s about the ill informed opinions of people who didn’t know me.

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