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Why Men Love B*tches - do you think it's true?

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Livingwithobsession · 02/07/2022 10:58

Have you ever read this book? I think it was released years and years ago.

To sum it, the title is misleading but basically what it's about.. "Sherry Argov's Why Men Love Bitches delivers a unique perspective as to why men are attracted to a strong woman who stands up for herself. With saucy detail on every page, this no-nonsense guide reveals why a strong woman is much more desirable than a “yes woman” who routinely sacrifices herself."

The author goes on to say about trying to avoid being clingy and needy, how you should have your own life and put yourself first, if a man is bread crumbing you or leading you on - LTB!

HOWEVER, I do sometimes think men (not that I agree) prefer a yes woman who is more submissive and goes along with everything.

I'd be really interested to hear anyone's thoughts.

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KissThaRain · 02/07/2022 11:11

An ex of mine was all talk.
Been dating a few weeks went to his one evening had sex and he said ‘that’s not what I asked you round for, go home and have a bath as well talk tomorrow’!!!! Both had asked one another are you sure and both had said yes.

same twat and he bought me heels, tight mini shirt and blouse for dress up sex both agreed to it - during he asked to slap my arse I agreed - afterwards sex he said ‘I don’t like you in those clothes don’t ever dress up like that again’

why the hell I didn’t walk away sooner I’ll never know
I did what we both agreed to but his reactions after stiff baffle me .

seaUrchinOne · 02/07/2022 11:11

In my experience men like a challenge to begin with but prefer a weaker woman long term with when it can't get away with being a dick.

007DoubleOSeven · 02/07/2022 11:14

seaUrchinOne · 02/07/2022 11:11

In my experience men like a challenge to begin with but prefer a weaker woman long term with when it can't get away with being a dick.

Or there are the men who like a strong woman so they don't have to do anything.

You know the type...someone who'll keep them in line, chivvy them, tell them off when they get too drunk.

Lazy sods.

User1406 · 02/07/2022 13:22

Men like the chase. If you're clingy/needy and show interest, he starts running in the opposite direction. The minute you back off, invest in your own interests and/or move on with your life, he comes running back towards you. It's just male psychology.

hotcoldnotsold · 02/07/2022 13:36

Different types of men like different types of women. The best way to attract the right guy for you is to live your best life with contentment and hobbies and good self esteem. That way you attract a man who is compatible and are best placed to make sensible decisions.

I don't know about being a bitch and haven't read the book but I do think most women would benefit from having boundaries and not tolerating bad behaviour. Not just in relationships but in life. And any man who has an issue with it is a Neanderthal at heart.

Gerip · 02/07/2022 13:40

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Hi all, we have our doubts about the OP so we've taken this down. Apologies to those who offered advice in good faith.

Natty13 · 02/07/2022 13:54

I do sometimes think men (not that I agree) prefer a yes woman who is more submissive and goes along with everything.

I agree with this but imo those are men not worth having.

I have a friend who is a "yes woman", no boundaries, constantly wringing her hands at having to stand up for herself in the most minor of ways (e.g. saying no to blatant CFs). She always complains that she attracts dickheads and asks why can't she find a kind and respectful man like my DH.

The fact of the matter is my DH wouldn't ever wanted a woman like that because he being with a people pleaser is HARD and he'd forever be managing her feelings of guilt. Nice men want an emotionally mature and independent partner not a skivvy. He has pointed this out to her once while she was bemoaning how him and his friends group are all good partners and husbands and why she can't find one but she doesn't listen.

honeylulu · 02/07/2022 17:32

I would say the reverse of what pps have indicated. Men say and think they want a submissive attentive yes woman who plays second fiddle but after a while they find that boring and find someone who has more fire and opinions more interesting and attractive.

I don't think it necessarily means they want "a bitch" ie someone unpleasant. But someone who isn't a pushover/people pleaser and will keep them engaged

Livingwithobsession · 02/07/2022 19:33

honeylulu · 02/07/2022 17:32

I would say the reverse of what pps have indicated. Men say and think they want a submissive attentive yes woman who plays second fiddle but after a while they find that boring and find someone who has more fire and opinions more interesting and attractive.

I don't think it necessarily means they want "a bitch" ie someone unpleasant. But someone who isn't a pushover/people pleaser and will keep them engaged

1000% agree with this.
I'm a very dominant woman and it attracts men, but when I get in a relationship, I tend to become more submissive and nice and basically do what my partner wants.. and that's when it all goes downhill!

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