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Red Flags everywhere, 9 years in

38 replies

ConfusedBubble · 30/06/2022 09:45

Hi All.

I have another thread about my relationship. And I know it's bad, I know it should be over. I just can't do it. I know I will get flamed for saying that and I am sorry - I have been torn down so much over the last 9 years, I'm waiting on him doing something huge to give me the 'walk away' strength.

Anyway, a couple of things;
Last week we were sitting on the sofa, he was scrolling through TikTok and one of those MGTOW videos came on, I switched off and wasn't really listening, but it was about not trusting women. He then said,
"I've followed you before, to see if you were parked where you said. There was one time I even called one of your mates because I couldn't find your car. You remember? You said to me they said they thought Steve had called. Your car wasn't there. Oh yeah, I've followed you a few times".
I didn't know what to say to this. I was flabbergasted. I am always where I say I am. I don't recall the 'incident' above at all. We had friends coming over so said nothing more of it. He has a history of not being where he says he is.

The weekend he had a hissy fir because I washed a t-shirt that he needed that day - I had inadvertently picked it up with my stuff and thrown it in with the rest of the darks (it is grey) (I apologised and said this is what happened). He said did I not notice when I was hanging it out. I said no, I don't actually pay that much attention to the clothes! There was no argument there but he managed to create one.

I just got myself a new FitBit. Last night I got in the bath and he looked at it (on the side) and said "is that how many steps you're supposed to have done? You've been sat down at work all day!"
All I could say was it isn't accurate. All I'd done was walk from the car to the office, office to the shop for a drink, and office to car - I'd been home from 2 pm and cleaned out fish tanks and the like. Obviously, it picks up on arm movements, not steps. When he saw it it was 4,250 steps, by the time I went to bed 90 minutes later it was over 5,300 (I didn't point this out as I didn't want an argument).

I feel like I'm walking on eggshells. I half expect him to turn up at my office today, to make sure I'm here. He's been over-nice this morning. Either that, or he will be 'unavailable' today to make me think he's up to something. Sad truth is, I don't care - I wish he was, though even then he'd still paint me as the bad person.

Sorry for the long post, it's hugely helpful to just rant sometimes, and I don't have anyone IRL I can tell the nitty gritty to

OP posts:
frozendaisy · 30/06/2022 14:09

Work out a plan.
Where you can go when you gather your clothes and pets.

Then once that is all in place pack the car calmly say "enough now" and walk.

madasawethen · 30/06/2022 18:32

Why don't you give yourself a trial period?

Do you have a family member you can stay with? Have you already taken your holidays for this year?

This is how you can give yourself a trial period.
Arrange some place to stay, family, hotel, airbnb

Then when you leave work for the weekend just go to where you are visiting instead of going home.
Stay the night and see how it feels. Then tell yourself, well I'll just visit this weekend.

You go back to work on Monday and then leave work and go where you are staying. Tell yourself, well it would be nice to visit some more.

So keep doing that as long as you want. That way you don't have to commit to anything really. You're just visiting.

I do the steps for all sorts of things to just do it without thinking about it. It takes the pressure and fear off by just saying well I'll do this today and see how it goes.

Good luck!

KittyKittyKat · 30/06/2022 22:10

You need to get the fuck out as soon as possible. Such a disaster waiting to happen.

He’s already showing stalker tendencies and won’t want to lose his meal ticket!!!

2022NewTimes · 11/07/2022 21:42

@ConfusedBubble How are you doing OP ?

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/07/2022 22:03

Oh OP. You sound really low. Have you thought about going on antidepressants? It sounds like you're feeling so low that you'll just about put up with anything.

Have you lost all hope of a normal life? One where you're respected and treated like the good person you are?

You deserve happiness. I hope you find it in you to leave him soon x

knackeredagain · 11/07/2022 22:16

I’d strongly recommend speaking to Women’s Aid or a DV charity for advice on how to leave safely. They will help you untangle this. Your feelings are entirely normal and your self esteem is understandably low. There is a future though. One where you aren’t walking on eggshells, just you and your pets. You might need a bit of support to believe your own worth and make the move, but you don’t deserve to be living like this.

ConfusedBubble · 12/07/2022 11:00

Hi all, sorry I haven't been online, I don't come on here unless I'm in the office.

I found a lovely house, close enough I could stay in work, but far enough I wouldn't be in proximity to where I am now, it was gone within 4 hours of going up for rent. I will keep looking.

I am trying to keep my head up and emotionally separate myself from the situation - it is the emotional attachment that is the hardest and it's ridiculous.

I may contact Women's Aid or similar, thank you for the suggestion, it's a good idea. I'm sure they have encountered my situation plenty of times before.

Trying to strengthen myself to be able to take that big step and go..

Things are the same as always at home, my opinion doesn't matter, it's all about him, what he's feeling and thinking, "I'm not talking about you, stop making it all about you, I'm talking about what I'm feeling", that kind of thing. I think we would both be happier without the other

OP posts:
knackeredagain · 12/07/2022 14:40

Those attachment ties are strong but they aren’t healthy, as you know. You just need to get stronger than them, which you can with support. Good luck OP x

fourquenelles · 12/07/2022 14:57

@ConfusedBubble I have been there (more than once unfortunately) and I recognise that feeling of being like a rabbit caught in headlights not moving as the juggernaut bears down on you. Both my past cocklodgers managed to get another woman victim within weeks of being kicked out. Both are now in their 60s and are still managing to survive, have roofs over their heads and eat despite no visible means of support. These men are like cockroaches; they are unsquashable. Please don't fret about how he will survive. He will do very well. He has a house he can rent rooms out or remortgage if he won't work. This bloke is not going to starve.

Stop thinking about him. You are not responsible for him. I like the phase "human emotional support" you are no-one's apart from your own. Keep looking for a place to live then gather up your pets and clothes, stick prawns in the curtain rods and two fingers up at his back as you head off into your new life.

Barbelldance · 12/07/2022 15:03

@ConfusedBubble 😔😔😔😔
I'm sorry to hear this.
This man sounds like he's controlling.... or atleast trying to be controlling and manipulating.

You need to fins the strength to speak up and put him back in his place. Once you start speaking back to him something will change.
It could prevent separation and by the sounds of things, you deserve better than this patronising stuff!

This is not on you so don't feel responsible.
Tell him how you feel, it's not working and you need something to change or you're leaving.
Also look at your other options
All the best x

oobeedoobee · 12/07/2022 15:17

What is it that you actually want in life ?

Do you want a good husband/partner ?

Do you want kids ?

Do you want to be able to take maternity leave and not be homeless because of it ?

Do you want to be loved ?

Do you want to feel relaxed and supported ?

Most importantly, do you ever want to be happy ?

You need to decide exactly what you want, because it's only your desire to achieve these things that will ultimately win over your 'need' to 'keep the piece' and 'not argue back' etc.

You need to see him for what he is, the source of all your unhappiness and pain.

You need to try to 'recapture' the feeling of happiness. So start by planning lunches/ drinks etc and going out with friends and family without him.

Coyoacan · 12/07/2022 15:25

It looks like you need to sign up to the Freedom Programme at the very least, but if you can afford therapy, get that as well. I'm not criticizing as I understand that you have been in this situation so long, you can't imagine different

2022NewTimes · 12/07/2022 17:26

@ConfusedBubble Register with all the local rental agents - when I got the one I am renting now she had only got the keys that day - she had not registered / marketed the property yet - so if I had waited to see what was available online it would have been gone

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