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Feel like having a baby has ruined relationship with my parents...

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bohemianbint · 15/01/2008 21:08

Bit of background, my whole family (mum, dad, brother, sister, cousin) live very close and we've always been close.

Since I had DS1 17 months ago a lot of things have come up that are quite painful. I had a pretty awful childhood, my parents divorced very messily when I was about 5 and the trouble carried on from there. My mother left us and was generally a complete PITA and my dad and stepmum got custody. I didn't really have a good relationship with my parents (dad and stepmum) until I left home at 18. They've mellowed out a lot since then.

Anyway, after DS1 was born, they had very strong opinions about leaving him to cry and bottle feeding. I refused to do either but I think they took it personally. They came on very strong about all of it and it made me quite depressed to have everything I did constantly criticised or ridiculed.

My dad won?t talk about anything past and my Gran died a year ago so all the questions having a baby throws up about your own childhood I can only ask my mother. I?ve recently got back in touch with her after 8 years of no-contact (she really isn?t the most sane of people) but my parents are making it very difficult for me; if I see her they go on and on about it and how stupid I am to bother. If I see her without telling them I feel awful.

I?m pregnant again and am dreading another round of criticism. However, I?m starting to wonder if they aren?t trying a different tack this time. I was really ill around the time I got pregnant and I don?t feel like I?ve ever quite got back on my feet, and that combined with constant nausea, tiredness, insomnia and a very boisterous 17 month old and I find I?m really struggling some days. My parents don?t ask how I am and when I tell them I?m finding it hard they just ignore it.

They haven?t spent any real time with DS for literally months. They don?t offer to help and they don?t seem to care what?s going on with us. Over Christmas we felt completely pushed out; the whole set up was completely baby un-friendly and it felt like no concessions were made for us having such a young child there. When I do see them if I try to talk to them while DS is there they completely ignore me. And now things are not too great as my mum told everyone I was pregnant even though she was told not to. To be fair, it?s almost as if they?re just clueless, as opposed to being malicious. I think they might have forgotten what its like to have small children.

At the weekend my sister?s boyfriend woke the whole house up phoning at 4am. We both had to be up at 7am as DP was working and we couldn?t get back to sleep. Sister had fallen over pissed and grazed her chin but was fine. When I spoke to parents later in the day I was feeling exhausted, sick and dizzy with lack of sleep, and left on my own with DS1 all Saturday. Nothing was said, they didn?t offer to take him off my hands for even an hour or so. But when I said my sister had fallen they were straight on to see if she was ok. I wouldn?t mind but when I had to be rushed to hospital a few months back because I had a kidney problem and could hardly walk my sister wouldn?t help out with DS because she was going shopping, so DP had to miss work and lose a day?s wages. And my parents sided with her about that too.

I know it sounds like a lot of whining but I feel like having a baby has really damaged my relationship with my parents and I don?t know what to do about it. I know I need to lower my expectations and not assume they will help/show concern/want to spend time with DS - but that?s not a great state of affairs, is it? I wonder if they don?t even realise how much things they have done/said have upset me, but when I do get upset they tend to just stand back and observe in silence until I sort myself out, which I find really odd. I do wonder if they might be trying to prove a point though, as when DS was 7 weeks old my dad said I was isolating people by not listening to advice and that people were going to stop bothering with me and "leave me to it".

Sorry, it didn?t turn out to be that short or as ?to the point? as I wanted! But has anyone else found having a family has ruined things with parents? And what can be done to sort it out?

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discoverlife · 15/01/2008 21:19

It sounds like complete and utter spite. I think they are trying to get back at you for not taking (and using) their advice. Its a bit petty. I would leave them to themselves.
Your contact with them is not doing you any good whatsoever. Play them at there own game because you are the one that has nothing to lose. Don't call them, don't visit, don't take DS to see them, why should you, they are not making you comfortable. If they don't try to inisiate (can't spell) contact you haven't lost anything. If they do get in touch then you are the one in control.

They are ones who are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

TheStepfordChav · 15/01/2008 21:23

Oh blimey, parents aren't perfect, are they? So sorry you are feeling completely worn out & getting no support from them. Could you get childcare for an hour a day so that you can rest & get back on top of things?

Sorry, I'm not being much help; no doubt another MNer will be able to. All I can say is 'Disfunctional family? Join the club!' What a shame that they are being so short-sighted, and missing out on good tiles with their gch. My ILs are the same - they think they were such wonderful parents to DH & he's never told them how lonely & emotionally neglected by them he felt. They tried to dictate what names we should give our dch & then went into a strop when we didn't use those names! They have only ONCE looked after my dch, and then left them up all evening to watch TV & scare themselves watching a horror film.

This time around you need to do what YOU want to do for YOUR baby - you pushed aside your own gut feelings to please them, but it wasn't right for you.

Good luck sweetie

TheStepfordChav · 15/01/2008 21:24

Er, times, not tiles! (Scrabble, anyone?)

PurpleOne · 15/01/2008 22:13

BB

Now is the time to think about YOU and your DH and DC's.
Do not do anything your not hapy with. Let them make the effort for YOU this time. YOU have a family of your own, they are your first and foremost priority.

My parents are the same. Diff situ but both of them completely petty and ridiculous. You know I haven't spoken to my mum or dad for nearly 6 months....all over a losy stinking cigarette!

BB, let them make their own choices, they are 'adult' enough now, it's THEIR problem. YOUR DC has NOT damaged any relationship with your parents...they ruined that for them selves by being petty and silly.

Wish you every bit of Good Luck with your new pg x x

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/01/2008 07:43

I would agree with everything that PurpleOne has written - these toxic people have ruined the relationship, not you and your children. I think that in your case having your own children has made you think about your own childhood more along with what these people did (you write as much yourself in your first paragraph).

You may want to read the "well we took you to stately homes" thread on this same relationships page along with the book "Toxic Parents" written by Susan Forward.

bohemianbint · 16/01/2008 10:45

Thank you for the replies. I start to wonder if it's just me being a pain in the arse, or unreasonable for expecting a bit of help.

FWIW I don't think they realise fully what they're being like/how they were. My mum has said non-stop that being a parent is awful, which isn't the best thing to hear over and over again.

I've got the stately homes thread on watch, I will get to grips with it soon, it all sounds very relevent, and I've wondered about that "toxic parents" book for a while.

THanks again, it means a lot.

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Domesticgodless · 16/01/2008 10:54

you're absolutely right to feel annoyed with them. Their comment about 'not listening to advice' made me very for you.

My MiL is similarly 'perfect' and I have had to listen to reams of her advice. I just stopped seeing her altogether for a while. Harder when they are your parents, but possibly better for you. If you do see them, you have to feel able to stand up for yourself and ds- you are not there to make their life easier. They should be helping a pg woman with a toddler.

WanderingTrolley · 16/01/2008 10:56

I think they think that now you are in a relationship and a mother, you are an adult and don't need their help. They think it's up to your dp to support you, not them, as you are now officially a grown up, independent and should sort yourself out without their help.

Shame they don't seemt to think that it's also not up to them to criticise you.

Limit your time with them. They sound very detached.

bohemianbint · 16/01/2008 12:57

They are very detached. I've always thought it was me that was weird and irrational emotional and I needed to sort myself out.

When I was a kid if I cried I got told to stop it or they'd give me something to really cry about, or to "stop putting it on." I think this sort of attitude seems to have carried over to adulthood and if I cry now they think I'm being manipulative, rather than sad.

I am so determined not to carry this sort of crap on with my kids.

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ally90 · 16/01/2008 15:27

Hi bb

Its not your fault your family are this way. Sometimes people are just lacking in things like empathy, then they go on to become parents...

Anytime your ready come on over to our thread, you might as well you know...you already have 3, now 4 people who post on that thread on this one...sure sign we are identifying with your situation...

Just put on a (comfortable for you) summary of your childhood and await replies...if it helps I was 'only' emotionally abused and tend to think it was 'nothing much' and other people who were physically/sexually abused were worse off than me and I'm just being silly making a big deal out of nothing and to stop being so self pitying and I was taken to stately homes and had a roof over my head and my clothes ironed and my mum was never there emotionally for me, or my dad, or my sister...and that is enough reason to post. And we won't think you are 'putting it on'. That was your parents saying that. Would you say that to your children? No. And we won't say it to you, because it was wrong of your parents to say that to you. Empathetic people will not judge you to be fraudently crying, we assume there is something wrong and will just listen to you and support you.

xx

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