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How to handle this situation?

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livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 20:54

I really need advice on how to help my sister in law. She came over to the uk from abroad around 5 years ago to marry my brother. She is in the process of getting citizenship. She had no money of her own to begin with and was not allowed to work. My brother has been funding everything since she came here (quite happily I think) As soon as she could work she did in order to have a bit of spending money of her own.
She is now expecting their first baby and no longer works. The problem is though that she's told me that my brother is quite controlling of the money. They don't have any joint accounts and she doesn't know how much money he earns or how much savings he has.
Whenever she wants to buy stuff he will either take her shopping or transfer some money into her account for her to spend. She, quite rightly I think, feels frustrated. She would like to be able to go and buy stuff for the house or for the new baby without having to ask first.
I witnessed this myself recently when I was over at their house helping her pick out some baby equipment online that she then wanted to order. We sat there for ages waiting for my brother to come and enter his credit card to complete the purchase. It seemed so controlling.

I'm not at all used to this kind of set up. I'm a stay at home mum and haven't earned my own money in years. But me and my husband have always had joint accounts and joint access to finances.

I really want to help my sister in law out. She just wants my brother to transfer some money to her each month. An allowance I suppose. Apparently she's been asking and he says he'll sort it but never does.
How can I raise this with him?! We do get on well but talking about stuff like this is tricky to get right without him feeling like I'm interfering.

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DenholmElliot1 · 18/06/2022 20:57

What happened to the job that she had?

Ultimately, she needs her own financial independance, which will come through work. I doubt speaking to your brother will achieve anything although you should of course try.

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/06/2022 20:59

He will feel like you’re interfering so either accept that and do it anyway or tell her you can’t help and back away from it. She’s incredibly stupid to have got pregnant when she knew what he was like and how precarious her position was. Was it planned?! What happens to her if they split up? Why has she stopped working just because she’s pregnant? It sounds like her getting a job and leaving him is her best option. Is she allowed to claim benefits if they’re not married? He’s not going to give her what she wants so if you don’t mind burning bridges with him then encourage her to look into her options if she leaves him.

Aquamarine1029 · 18/06/2022 21:04

I'd tell your brother what a controlling tit he's being, but that's me. He will end up destroying his marriage if he keeps this shit up, and I'd tell him so.

livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 21:10

She lost her job just before she became pregnant. She was pretty much bullied out, it was awful. She had a lawyer try to help but they got rid of her before she had 2 years there. The baby is very much planned and wanted by both. They are married. I very much want to tell him off but I'm not a very confrontational person!

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livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 21:12

I think if they did split up, she would take the baby back to her home country and that would be that.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 18/06/2022 21:13

Why didn’t she get another job? It’s great it was planned and wanted but you and she must see the time to tackle such a big issue was before she was pregnant. If you want to talk to him then do, I wouldn’t tell him off as that’s not going to work. But if she’s incapable of talking to her husband and has asked you to intervene then give it a go but he’s unlikely to change. Because if he wanted to it wouldn’t be an issue in the first place. She’s got a baby to think of now so she’s the one who should be dealing with this.

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/06/2022 21:13

livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 21:12

I think if they did split up, she would take the baby back to her home country and that would be that.

Not if he doesn’t agree. He’ll have equal parental responsibility, she can’t just take the baby.

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2022 21:17

livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 21:12

I think if they did split up, she would take the baby back to her home country and that would be that.

That isn't necessarily the case if the baby's born here

livelyoasis · 18/06/2022 21:24

I agree that they should be able to sort this out themselves but yes she has kind of asked me for help. So I feel bad as I don't agree with what he's doing but don't know really if me talking to him would help or not. I think she lost her job because they knew she wanted a baby and didn't want to pay her maternity.

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GreenManalishi · 18/06/2022 21:26

I feel for her. Controlling behaviour can often escalate when a pregnancy occurs. Telling him off isn't going to change a thing, I'd try and support her as much as possible and be there for her, it sounds like she's in a very vulnerable position.
You could try to speak to your brother calmly and gently in a non confrontational way and point out her position, and see how he reacts. If he's genuinely overlooked things he won't be defensive and will take it as the gentle nudge it is and set things in place to make things fairer.

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