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Money, weed and my marriage

27 replies

whatabloodyjoke · 06/06/2022 19:37

I feel like this is going to be massive but lots to cover.

My marriage seems to be in trouble and need to know if it’s me or him or a combination and how to fix it. We have 2 kids under 3. We own our home (with mortgage). I work 3 days a week, he works full time. I do all nursery/childcare drop offs, most house and mental load stuff. Our youngest is still BF so I am up between 5.30 and 6.30 everyday, even on my lie in day. Both our jobs are OK paid, I bring home £1200 a month, he brings home £1700. Our bills including childcare and food come to around £1900 which leaves us with £500 each to cover fun stuff, dinner out etc.

He smokes weed. I have no idea how much, I choose not to know. I’d prefer he didn’t but we’ve had endless arguments about it and I try to pretend it doesn’t happen. After dinner (I cook, he cleans up) he goes outside to smoke, I go upstairs and watch TV in our room. We rarely spend any evening time together as I don’t want to sit waiting for him, nor spend time with someone who stinks of weed. This leads to us having few real conversations and lots of things discussed via text which means tone isn’t always conveyed correctly.

He has recently been moaning about the cost of living and how he feels so scared and anxious about the future and that he has so little money left at the end of the month. I don’t consume much news so am probably living in ignorance but honestly haven’t felt the effects of the cost of living crisis particularly keenly. Yes, food shop and petrol have gone up, but still within an affordable amount. I am usually able to save a few hundred pounds out of my £500 per month.

I am a problem solver, so when he suggested he was struggling my instinct was to find a solution. I don’t know how much he spends on weed, but given we don’t go out much I am guessing it’s the difference between being left with £100-£200 a month and him being left with nothing. I suggested to him that maybe he could cut back and wondered if the chill out it provided was worth the anxiety of having no money. He said I don’t know what I’m talking about, have zero empathy and that he opened up about his fears of the future and told him it was his own fault. Wasn’t my intention at all. I guess he just wanted a grumble/rant rather than a solution, which is fine, sometimes that’s all we need. I got it wrong clearly.

We have quite a lot of away weddings and things to pay for this summer, all of which we’ve known about for over a year. I have savings to cover my share but he doesn’t. This is causing him a lot of stress too.

We’ve been at breaking point before, very recently. I suggested counselling which he agreed to loosely but then once things seemed OK again he suddenly said we don’t need it.

He’s prone to anxiety/depression but insists he doesn’t need any medication. I had mild PND after our second child and found taking ADs pretty transformative. When he gets like this he can lose patience with the kids really quickly and if he’s alone with them while I’m having my “lie in” or doing something elsewhere then I often find him trying to put them down for a nap much earlier than necessary because it’s proving too much for him.

I haven’t even started on the mental load stuff, the sorting out every single bill and house and child related thing, including pretty much a full house renovation without the slightest bit of interest/input from him.

Can anyone help? I don’t even know what I’m looking for. Reassurance that the weed isn’t slowly killing our relationship and that it’s worth fighting for? Help on how to fix it? I don’t know. I’m going to contact a counsellor tonight. Either together or maybe just for me.

OP posts:
AgentJohnson · 06/06/2022 20:12

Turning a blind eye to a habit you don’t like is shortsighted and now you’re here. He would have more money if he didn’t prioritise smoking weed, he would be less anxious if he didn’t prioritise smoking weed etc. I’m sorry to break it to you but you are his mum and he’s a moody teen who expects his mum (you) to be the adult.

The balls in your court, not his. He clearly doesn’t see the status quo as a problem, why would he when he has minimal responsibilities and his mum (you) is the responsible adult in the relationship.

So OP, what do you want and is your partner willing to get anywhere close to what you want? I think you need to lay your cards on the table and stop parenting a supposed grown arsed man I.e he needs to step up or fuck off. This limbo of mediocrity isn’t a compromise that you will no longer tolerate/ excuse/ collude with.

You wouldn’t be the first woman who bought into the idea of a fixer upper but actually lumbered themselves with something with dodgy foundations. The more energy you invest in making it look right, the more you realise such a strategy takes you further from your goal.

LilyMarshall · 06/06/2022 20:16

God he is a shit partner and husband isnt he! Very selfish. Youre going to have to pay for the weddings or he wont be going. Are they your friends / family or his?

do you want to live like this? Do you want your children growing up like this? If you dont, its over. He wont change

Badger1970 · 06/06/2022 20:19

It's the weed damaging his brain that makes him anxious/depressed.

He probably couldn't stop even if he wanted to. He's an addict.

This is your forever if you choose it.

whatabloodyjoke · 06/06/2022 20:31

Ooft there's some hard truths to hear.

Sorry, didn't mean to drip feed but the original post already seemed massive. When we first met he had serious alcohol and drug problems. Booze being the gateway to taking coke and disappeared for days on end. Things came to a head, I gave an ultimatum fully expecting he'd choose the party life. He didn't, he chose me and hasn't touched a drop of alcohol in nearly 4 years. He saw a counsellor at an alcohol charity which helped, but for some reason he and the counsellor seemed to agree that weed was different. I can see the damage it's doing to him and our relationship but he just refuses to consider that it's the cause. He sees how far he's come (and he has and I'm so proud of him for that) but is so sure that since he's a million times better that this is ok and I'm being unreasonable for trying to take away his one vice, his one way to relax in the evening. I don't want to issue another ultimatum. He thinks I'm controlling as it is. I just want him to want to be better for himself and for us.

OP posts:
DFOD · 06/06/2022 20:47

Your babies deserve much more than this, even if you think you don’t.

He has long term MH / anxiety issues and has just swapped one addiction for another.

You have zero connection with this man. This is not a mutual supportive relationship. You have tried too hard for too long. His money issues, MH, poor parenting and zero partner capabilities are going to take you both under.

He sounds very entrenched. He is prioritising himself and his addiction above a relationship with you and caring for his children.

Try to get yourself some professional emotional support and work your way out of this mess before he does any more damage. I have lived and breathed families like this - don’t let inflict anymore of this on your children. This isn’t going to get better.

Addiction, money and poor mental health is not static - it all erodes over time which if you dare to look back will be able to track and quantify to date. It’s only going in one direction.

DFOD · 06/06/2022 20:49

He thinks I'm controlling as it is.

Oh the irony …. the minimising, gaslighting and controlling words of the addict.

milkysmum · 06/06/2022 21:25

I spent nearly 20 years with an addict ( daily pot smoker and drinker ). We have 2 children together. He would never choose us over his habit, never. We always came second. He loved us, but not enough stop. Eventually I stopped issuing empty threats, and followed through- it was us or substances. We divorced earlier this year. I only wish I had done it years ago.

asquideatingdough · 07/06/2022 01:41

Your post reminds me a lot of my marriage to ex DH, who was also a chronic cannabis smoker. He also saw therapists who told him (apparently) that smoking weed was ok compared to other harder drugs or alcohol. It sapped him of ambition, consistency, and made him self interested and remote. I ended up doing virtually everything for our house and kids alone while his underlying MH issues worsened. He just smoked more to calm his "anxiety " ie knowledge he was screwing up his life.

If the relationship is not fulfilling or good for you, and he shows no sign of wanting to change, save yourself.

Biscuitandacuppa · 07/06/2022 02:13

I couldn’t live like that, my next door neighbour smokes pot out of her back door and it stinks! The lack of communication, engagement in family life and the poor me attitude is deeply unattractive. Plus once the kids are older they will know what he is doing. If it was me I would be ending the relationship.

Liorae · 07/06/2022 02:59

I'd rather be with a pot user than a drinker. But them, it's legal where I live, and we can get gummies so there is no smell issue. I find it funny how so many on MN think pot is the devil but mummy's glass of wine is fine.

Lanareyrey · 07/06/2022 04:09

Badger1970 · 06/06/2022 20:19

It's the weed damaging his brain that makes him anxious/depressed.

He probably couldn't stop even if he wanted to. He's an addict.

This is your forever if you choose it.

This 100%

asquideatingdough · 07/06/2022 04:12

@Liorae that's the problem though- no one should have to choose a partner who is either a drinker or a smoker if it is causing problems in the relationship. It's not hypocrisy, it's a reasonable expectation of functioning in a partner.

JimmyShoo · 07/06/2022 04:39

He’s still an addict. His substance of choice has changed.

Your choice is stark but simple; you can either live with it or you can’t.

LilyMarshall · 07/06/2022 06:42

Liorae · 07/06/2022 02:59

I'd rather be with a pot user than a drinker. But them, it's legal where I live, and we can get gummies so there is no smell issue. I find it funny how so many on MN think pot is the devil but mummy's glass of wine is fine.

So, after reading the op’s posts, you think this man is a good husband and father and would be happy with him in your life?

op, want more for yourself and your children.

HollowTalk · 07/06/2022 07:15

He's just swapped one addiction for another. There is nothing more boring and selfish and immature than a weed addict in my opinion.

Maytodecember · 07/06/2022 08:43

Do you really want your children to grow up in this environment? How long will it be before a nursery worker or teacher notices the smell on your child’s hair or clothes? We used to have children arrive at school on Monday with eyes like saucers, especially in bad weather —- they’d spent the weekend indoors with weed smoking parent/s and visitors. Totally unable to engage with learning for a day or two. Parent often turned to dealing to pay for their own drugs and kids were used to deliver the drugs through the letterbox ( their reasoning being if it was an undercover cop the child couldn’t be prosecuted)
Its not what children deserve, they deserve the very best parents can give them.
Think about leaving for your children’s sake.

whatstheteamarie · 07/06/2022 09:06

The problem with choosing an addict as the father of your children is that you get an addict as the father of your children.

The addiction gets time, money, emotional reserves from your partner. You and your DC get the left over scraps on a good day, nothing on a bad day and verbal, physical &/or emotional abuse on a really bad day.

That shouldn't be enough for you, but you're a grown up, you can make your own decisions. What isn't fair though is that you're allowing it to be enough for your children. You're allowing them to grow up with an addict as a parent, so if you don't leave him for you, please leave him for them, they deserve so much better.

DFOD · 07/06/2022 09:10

whatstheteamarie · 07/06/2022 09:06

The problem with choosing an addict as the father of your children is that you get an addict as the father of your children.

The addiction gets time, money, emotional reserves from your partner. You and your DC get the left over scraps on a good day, nothing on a bad day and verbal, physical &/or emotional abuse on a really bad day.

That shouldn't be enough for you, but you're a grown up, you can make your own decisions. What isn't fair though is that you're allowing it to be enough for your children. You're allowing them to grow up with an addict as a parent, so if you don't leave him for you, please leave him for them, they deserve so much better.

Agreed. Also this isn’t static. It erodes the soul of everyone involved.

Ballcactus · 07/06/2022 09:14

Badger1970 · 06/06/2022 20:19

It's the weed damaging his brain that makes him anxious/depressed.

He probably couldn't stop even if he wanted to. He's an addict.

This is your forever if you choose it.

I disagree. Substance misuse is usually the coping strategy.

Recovery and abstinence is absolutely possible but he needs to commit. Where in the country are you roughly? I can try and signpost you to your local substance misuse services (if there are any- bit of a postcode lottery)

catscatscurrantscurrants · 07/06/2022 09:49

My first marriage ended because of his smoking weed habit - every day and often with like-minded 'friends'. He too suffered with depression, as well as OCD, and the weed only made it worse. He agreed to therapy, but secretly skipped the sessions to go smoking again. When I found out, I realised that he didn't want to change - he wanted that lifestyle with a housekeeper and sex thrown in. And that was the end for me.
OP, the weed makes a bad situation worse, and exacerbates any mental health issues. A user has to want to change, or it won't happen. You and your little ones deserve better than a man who values drugs above all else.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 07/06/2022 10:43

OP - where did this need to problem solve start with you?. Were you as a child trying to solve relationship problems between your parents too?. What did these people teach you about relationships as a child?.

Present day did you really think you could solve your man's problems too?. Who taught you that you had to be some sort of rescuer and or saviour here, it was likely one of your parents.

From your posts there is no indication he wants any help at all and you certainly cannot help him as you are all too clearly seeing. As his wife you are carrying out the usual roles; that of codependent partner, enabler and provoker (because you do not forget). Denial is also commonly seen in addicts and he is likely underestimating how much he is smoking. He seems also to have gone from one addiction also to another as well as self medicating. In the meantime your family unit lurches from crisis to crisis with you here trying to firefight all the bloody time.

OP - what do you get out of this relationship with this man?. What needs of yours is he still meeting?. Your kids certainly deserve better than what they are seeing and hearing around them at this time even if you sadly do not. Go to this counsellor on your own, he is unlikely to at all engage.

LooseGoose22 · 07/06/2022 11:01

Get rid.

DFOD · 07/06/2022 11:07

Ballcactus · 07/06/2022 09:14

I disagree. Substance misuse is usually the coping strategy.

Recovery and abstinence is absolutely possible but he needs to commit. Where in the country are you roughly? I can try and signpost you to your local substance misuse services (if there are any- bit of a postcode lottery)

He has already been down this path and got through alcohol, coke addiction etc seems he isn’t interested at this time in tackling his cannabis addiction.

OP - how he treats your children - losing patience with them

whatabloodyjoke · 07/06/2022 20:07

We've had an argument tonight. Via text, obviously. I came home with the kids and the communal entrance hall to our flat stunk of weed. He'd lit a candle as if that could cover it up. And yet when I tell him it stinks I'm the bad guy. He said he wanted to start afresh tomorrow, he chose to wfh so we could "do something together" I'm not sure what as I have to work all day. But now I'm going to have to put up with his presence in my house all day. Yes, his house too blah blah. And again, I'm the bad guy/horrible controlling wife for trying to force his hand. Sitting in the car crying right now. Can't face going back in again.

Thanks everyone for your advice. Will read again and reply properly when I can get access on my computer later.

OP posts:
LilyMarshall · 07/06/2022 21:00

whatabloodyjoke · 07/06/2022 20:07

We've had an argument tonight. Via text, obviously. I came home with the kids and the communal entrance hall to our flat stunk of weed. He'd lit a candle as if that could cover it up. And yet when I tell him it stinks I'm the bad guy. He said he wanted to start afresh tomorrow, he chose to wfh so we could "do something together" I'm not sure what as I have to work all day. But now I'm going to have to put up with his presence in my house all day. Yes, his house too blah blah. And again, I'm the bad guy/horrible controlling wife for trying to force his hand. Sitting in the car crying right now. Can't face going back in again.

Thanks everyone for your advice. Will read again and reply properly when I can get access on my computer later.

How can you do something together if he is working? Dies wfh mean skive?