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Actively bisexual

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 09:37

Hi. In a quandary.

Recently (one month almost so head beginning to settle and am happier) had a relationship end with someone I loved and met just after lockdown which was a lonely experience for me when kids over at ex's. I live in an isolated area so no clapping etc!

So am ok just confused and have some guilt for ending it holding me back from healing/letting go of it fully I think. He is also saying he is very hurt which doesn't help. As if I have hurt him unreasonably.

Interested to know others take on this so I can perhaps stop beating myself up and accept that I have done the right thing (children involved...his more so than mine). It's a health and truth issue aside from anything which is what makes it so serious. There is no stigma in this at all. Just wanting to live a safe and honest life. And simple!

So we were together 9 months June 20 to March 21 when suddenly as lock down ended, he ended it without reason. And out of the blue.

We got back together in May and end of June he came out as bisexual. I gently nurtured the topic as best as I could (I loved him and am pretty open minded) with the backdrop that we were already in love and l trusted him he loved me.

He obviously struggled to tell me. And said it didn't affect us. He'd already a long time before mentioned that he'd experimented with men at uni but decided that lift was not for him or what he wanted.

So in the midst of a difficult divorce dragging on and in love with him (gentle, kind and fun) we continued. The relationship was quite one sided geography wise (me to his as he is a single parent while my children go to my ex a few nights a week) and sometimes I struggled with that imbalance but tried to look at the positives. I did however feel vulnerable as not in my community as much as I would have liked to be. His promises to come to me and my area once a week never turned into anything.

However, about 4 or 5 months after the bisexuality revelation, he said he did want to act on it. I said this is big stuff (and was scared if I said no, he would end it but also thought, we are both responsible and sensible adults, we can do this). Possibly I wasn't thinking straight, with stress of FDR looming etc (my ex is a lawyer which added a whole new layer of stress to it, including how to fund my case as I'd been SAHM).

Anyway, for whatever reason I said let me think before we move to this. Maybe talk after my divorce. But it dragged on so in April (post FDR) I told boyfriend to go ahead with preparation. We'd talked through boundaries and where it would happen, frequency, being discreet and safe etc etc. So he went to SHC and got tested for AIDS and arranged protection via PREP.

I still felt ok with it. Knowing he loved me. One day, my ex was being particularly difficult with the divorce, a final piece on inflation (difficult in current circumstances, we wanted him to pay it since April (I did outgoings back in November) but he refused and said would take men into court again and undo the whole deal unless I agreed. Which of course I did agree having taken 5 years to get to this point and also wanted to leave 5 years before that. Which he knew but wouldn't allow.

Anyway, brutal day. I text boyfriend it's all done, deal signed but am shattered! Nearly got taken to court (I'd been at work too and stressful doing big negotiating stuff while in that environment). Anyway, you can guess what happened next. After 9 months of being reasonable (maybe too), it all blew up. Probably due to my stress and euphoria mixed up - and the arrival of his pills - which he sent me a photo of, in my reply to text about divorce agreement being final.

As a drink at my home was cancelled, I had already decided on going to my boyfriends "to celebrate quietly" with my daughter and we hung out with his daughter (a rare thing but lovely).

Then he came back. I asked him why he hadn't responded to my texts about exciting new future for us both...bla bla bla...and it kicked off. All the confusion, hurt, fear and resentment (in us both perhaps) just came out. Nasty things were said and it felt toxic and scary. Not us at all. We pulled it back and had a lovely peaceful weekend (we'd planned one away with his kids) but that was that. We ended. Bruised.

I felt relief and I have a new life to look forward to. But am I being unreasonable to think it was a big ask and to suddenly feel scared at his pills arriving - and back out in a panic? There was more - I'd accidentally come across stuff in his computer a month ago (searched for "contract" and under my name (I'd used his because my laptop died and had no power cable but couldn't find where sth had saved to). And up came a document promising his wife (no longer) not to drink as it made him dangerous dated 11 years ago. And a spreadsheet comparing me with his wife - including marks out of ten - and a category re being ok with me being bisexual/being ok with me being actively bisexual. 🙈 also included hair which I got a 7 for. Kindness I scored low (7) which upset me in the circumstances.

Anyway, if anyone still reading AIBU to struggle with this. It felt unbalanced already and this made it tip too far? Understandable? Or selfish?

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Giveitall · 29/05/2022 09:47

There is so much confusion in your head about all this none sense going on you are better off without it’s complications.
It all sounds like very hard work!
You’ve done your best, you’ve been kind and more than understanding so give up thinking about it.
Move on.

Kreature69 · 29/05/2022 09:58

Would you have a accepted another woman?

Move on..he's a selfish dickhead

Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:04

Giveitall · 29/05/2022 09:47

There is so much confusion in your head about all this none sense going on you are better off without it’s complications.
It all sounds like very hard work!
You’ve done your best, you’ve been kind and more than understanding so give up thinking about it.
Move on.

Yep. Bloody hard work. He was a moody bugger too...just frustrating he now plays the victim & won't accept genuine offer of friendship. But it!! I have much nicer friends...and I was very kind! ☺️ def 8/10.

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:05

Kreature69 · 29/05/2022 09:58

Would you have a accepted another woman?

Move on..he's a selfish dickhead

Thanks. Will do. And nope, women were off limits. He only wanted men....or so he said at that point anyway. Wasn't quite sure how to police that one....😆

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Blue4YOU · 29/05/2022 10:12

OP - as pp said, would you let him have sex with other women?
Im guessing not.
if he wants to explore his sexuality actively he should be single or in a relationship that’s “open” for both parties.
Its a bit of a mess.
I am a bit of a cow so I’d create the same comparison list and email it to him.
Twat

madasawethen · 29/05/2022 10:20

You're lucky to be rid of this knob.

His ex got rid of him for good reason it seems too. Dangerous when drunk, likely cheating with men.
As for friendship, he was never a friend.
He has to be somewhat nice to keep the sex going.
He was dishonest from the beginning as he withheld important information about himself from you.

If you knew all those things about him on day one, he wouldn't have gotten a 2nd date.

CPL593H · 29/05/2022 10:20

Any adult human who formally scores a partner with marks out of 10 is themselves a zero.

Everything you've written about him points to having dodged an entire magazine of bullets. I would be blocking and leaving him to his "hurt". He isn't and never was your friend.

lassof · 29/05/2022 10:25

You'll look back and realise this 'relationship' was useful to help you through a shitty divorce but that, thank God, you swerved a bullet.
Don't try and stay his friend. Work on yourself now ... give yourself a year, or more, to heal. You'll find that helps you with boundaries and spotting dickheads better next time.

Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:30

Blue4YOU · 29/05/2022 10:12

OP - as pp said, would you let him have sex with other women?
Im guessing not.
if he wants to explore his sexuality actively he should be single or in a relationship that’s “open” for both parties.
Its a bit of a mess.
I am a bit of a cow so I’d create the same comparison list and email it to him.
Twat

Brilliant idea - didn't cross my mind. He acts so fragile I wouldn't dare though!!

No wouldn't allow other women. I know he wouldn't have minded me being with other people, I just don't have the energy or time tbh! Kids being ok more my focus ☺️.

I thought once I'd caught him with a friend of his wife's. They both went upstairs earlier than me and her hubby night before, didn't cross my mind until she came down to breakfast going on about how she woke up in only her bra, no knickers and something had fallen off the bathroom door, and that "strange things happen when I'm drunk". Oddly I had come upstairs to find him awake?! When super drunk, so not like him! Usually would be snoring. Anyway.... then realised had been v tactile during goodbyes after lockdown walks (1 m apart?!) hand resting on his waist? They were also on messenger early on Sunday mornings at same time together etc.
Then he would deny being on (I'd been downstairs on phone making tea while him upstairs). All v odd. Poss nothing, but just more drama!

He'd checked on second date what i was like re jealousy and messaging other women (a mate having issues apparently as had texted a school mum late)?! FFS.

Ok, moving on! 😉😘 just wish I could prove he's a twat, not some poor victim but will leave to karma.

I thought they were having an affair at one point! Commented how nice she locked at her party (and lo and behold he yelled at me, I can't fancy her because I'm bisexual). Thats how he came out! So basically, probably been shagging here all along too! 🤣

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:31

madasawethen · 29/05/2022 10:20

You're lucky to be rid of this knob.

His ex got rid of him for good reason it seems too. Dangerous when drunk, likely cheating with men.
As for friendship, he was never a friend.
He has to be somewhat nice to keep the sex going.
He was dishonest from the beginning as he withheld important information about himself from you.

If you knew all those things about him on day one, he wouldn't have gotten a 2nd date.

Correct. Have had these thoughts too. Thank you! Really helps to hear all this. Know I'm right. 😊

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:33

lassof · 29/05/2022 10:25

You'll look back and realise this 'relationship' was useful to help you through a shitty divorce but that, thank God, you swerved a bullet.
Don't try and stay his friend. Work on yourself now ... give yourself a year, or more, to heal. You'll find that helps you with boundaries and spotting dickheads better next time.

Yeah - definitely dodged a bullet. Thanks. Think I spotted him just didn't want to admit it! but yes, having a long break. 🥰

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:37

madasawethen · 29/05/2022 10:20

You're lucky to be rid of this knob.

His ex got rid of him for good reason it seems too. Dangerous when drunk, likely cheating with men.
As for friendship, he was never a friend.
He has to be somewhat nice to keep the sex going.
He was dishonest from the beginning as he withheld important information about himself from you.

If you knew all those things about him on day one, he wouldn't have gotten a 2nd date.

So spot on...except she died and I think that's why he gets away with murder. People make excuses for him and to help his kids (like me).

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:37

CPL593H · 29/05/2022 10:20

Any adult human who formally scores a partner with marks out of 10 is themselves a zero.

Everything you've written about him points to having dodged an entire magazine of bullets. I would be blocking and leaving him to his "hurt". He isn't and never was your friend.

Thanks. God this is getting me over the final jump perfectly! 🙏👌😆

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:47

CPL593H · 29/05/2022 10:20

Any adult human who formally scores a partner with marks out of 10 is themselves a zero.

Everything you've written about him points to having dodged an entire magazine of bullets. I would be blocking and leaving him to his "hurt". He isn't and never was your friend.

And don't worry, yes I blocked him on every app the day I left. Just had to contact once and suggested a positive goodbye going to see Maverick (to remove my guilt)!

That's all the friendship offer was - more a positive ending. He asked for slow burn friendship I said no. But. Have just reopened social media with his kids. Think they were what was holding me back. Poor buggers with all his issues and losing their mum.

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Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 10:48

Thanks sooooo much for all the comments. And humour! Huge help to get it all out and get confirmation in NO way is he the victim here! Have to be so careful around that kind of topic that not being prejudiced, just wanted to check.

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Oblomov22 · 29/05/2022 10:49

What a fxxking knob. You are well rid. I hope that you will soon be able to see that.

Hannahsternrocks · 29/05/2022 11:02

Oblomov22 · 29/05/2022 10:49

What a fxxking knob. You are well rid. I hope that you will soon be able to see that.

I do I do I do! ☺️ Just didn't want to for a long time. The widowed just before lock down and bisexuality thing are big sympathy winners/powerful back story. Think I just knew I'd fucked up and it would be messy to get out of too - and hung around to be sure. Everyone loves him. In the past. 👍

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bluesky45 · 29/05/2022 11:39

I don't understand this at all. You basically agreed for him to cheat on you (with men, although as far as I can see it's irrelevant as he's cheating on you either way). And he's using the fact that it's with men to make it seem ok and that you are unreasonable for not allowing your partner to openly cheat on you and discuss it. I can't understand why he thought that was ok and how he managed to talk you into agreeing! You are not unreasonable to break up with someone because they want to have an open relationship on his side and you don't. Would he have been ok with you sleeping with other men I wonder?

Hannahsternrocks · 30/05/2022 01:23

bluesky45 · 29/05/2022 11:39

I don't understand this at all. You basically agreed for him to cheat on you (with men, although as far as I can see it's irrelevant as he's cheating on you either way). And he's using the fact that it's with men to make it seem ok and that you are unreasonable for not allowing your partner to openly cheat on you and discuss it. I can't understand why he thought that was ok and how he managed to talk you into agreeing! You are not unreasonable to break up with someone because they want to have an open relationship on his side and you don't. Would he have been ok with you sleeping with other men I wonder?

Didn't even get to agree!! But said can't really think about this. He said take your time. I said I'll think after my divorce. Too busy now. He said ok I'll wait, I love you. Divorce went on for ages, we kept having v odd arguments and I thought it was that (felt pressure - fuckwit juggling too many balls and just wanted a quiet life as was exhausted) so told him to get on with it.

Just didn't expect him to be quite so quick or insensitive about it - sending pic of pills on day I am exhausted and had a long day of divorce negs which finalise it and am happy.

But to be fair, the day before he had held back results of Aids test because I was having a crap day and I told him off and said had to be honest and tell me things as they happened or no trust. So he got confused. He is pretty literal.

Which in itself is a reason to end - crap comms!!! And lied at start. And scored me out of ten. And yes. He drip fed bisexuality into our relationship. It went from exclusive, to oh I have fantasies of threesomes to I'm bisexual but doesn't affect you to oh I want to act on it.

And yes I was a fool. 🤔 just v vulnerable and v tired. Out now and happier for it. Just his victim act was pissing me off...hence posted to check of guilt misplaced. Seems not! 👌☺️

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