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Both narcissists? Only explanation

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Peachmango44 · 16/05/2022 17:36

I dumped my boyfriend last week. I didn't want to. I wasn't ready. We've been together 2 years almost. But we were getting absolutely no where in terms of his ex. I started to notice games between them quite early on. They separated 3.5 years ago, yet you'd think by the jealousy and contact it was 6 months ago. Absolutely no boundaries were in place. She could send what she liked. He'd reply. He had no issue with telling me he wouldn't be controlled by anyone. She was his friend and I was never going to change it he said.
The games were absolutely childish. She'd watch his Facebook profile photo updates and write down the women who'd liked it. This was just 8 months ago when we were sat at his and she text him list of women age wanted to know about. Why do you talk to xyz? I don't like women and I really don't trust these women.
I said to him I felt like it was time to cut her off as that was becoming crazy ex. He defended her. She's not crazy!! Your twisting it. A week later he blocked her on Facebook. I thought she was put in her place. But he told me a month later he had agreed they could still talk via wattsapp.

We have over the course of our relationship discussed his feeling and emotions. I even at one point Said perhaps you need to talk to eachother and perhaps you should be back together as you seem unable to let go.

He began hiding their contact. I saw on her twitter page she had reported his written off vehicle that I'd already reported. It was our car. Yet he went to her for extra help.

We were doing great until a month ago. Life must have been going wrong for her because she got back in touch. She once again started whinging to him about her problems and asking him about his life. But no interest in me. She then reported to him.she had seen me driving his car on Facebook. One day we were sat last week eating and she was whinging to him she was so stressed about her job and he was feeling like he needed to cheer her up. When he went to walk the dog I went and looked at the conversation on the laptop. I realised I was completely out the conversation..they were putting loads of kisses on the messages and my boyfriend was expressing emotions about the past. She comforted him in her final message and my boyfriend ignored it.

My boyfriend I realised plays games. He love bombed me. He has done various abusive things to me, including screaming, name calling, lying, triangulation, financial abuse, hes been lazy and using me I fear. But I've started to realise since last night that maybe it's never made any sense to me because she's also abusive.

He's never been able to reach the bar with her. She's always pushing her problems his way. She won't let go. She's jealous. Stalking. Insecure. Acting like she still owns him. She's materialistic and spoilt.

What other reason would two adults have to do this ridiculous game. They don't seem to ever get back together just stop and start this game to ruin eachothers new attempts and moving on from the past...

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caprimoon · 16/05/2022 17:39

I think you know what you need to do.... walk away. Leave them to their games. You don't mention children, I assume you don't have any with him?

Peachmango44 · 16/05/2022 17:44

Yeah I am certainly doing that. But do you know what? It's been the most mind boggling situation and I'm just trying to make peace with it really. Somethings never been right.. it's like he feels responsible for her.. she dumped him for cheating and messaging other women. She never wanted to entertain him again but when he moved out she ended up helping him move. She used to go take their dog round whilst she went to work. She put pictures of them up together in frames on his walls. It was all messed up. She stopped going round as far as I know when he got involved with me.

I know she will be comforting him with this split too.

I have children so he's been in there lives a little. It's overall sad but for the best. There's something messed up with them..

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Pinkbonbon · 16/05/2022 17:44

I hate to say it op but there's every chance they were shagging behind your back and he told her YOU were just a friend. Or at the very least, made ot that you were crazy and he couldn't dump you because you'd go nuts or something but that you were no longer sleeping together ect...

Have you even met her? Sounds more like he has just spun you bs about her. The same way he has to her about you.

Either way, triangulation is usually the domain of the narcissist.

But you're not blameless, having recognised all of these things and continued to put up with it. Still saying you were not ready to split!

The fact is, lots of shitty sorts will take advantage if you are going to be that way. You need to kick them to the curb sooner in future. But hey, live and learn I guess!

Watchkeys · 16/05/2022 18:16

What other reason would two adults have to do this ridiculous game

It doesn't matter. If people don't make sense to you, you don't spend your time trying to work out the depths of their psychology. That would be a pathology of yours. You just get away. Far away.

altmember · 16/05/2022 18:21

They're clearly both nuts, and the whole situation is toxic between them. Don't really see symptoms of narcissism though. (*other personality disorders are also available)

scoobydoo1971 · 16/05/2022 18:27

Take it from a slightly exhausted unwell middle aged single parent of two kids with medical issues, who is still working and trying to maintain a social life and hobbies...reading that post screams of two people who need to get a life, and stop relying on others to fill the void. Imagine having all that time to post on social media, chase other people, chase each other, monitor likes...drama, drama, drama...it speaks of empty souls with no more productive ways of leading their lives. One day they will wake up alone and wonder where all that time went focused on 'me', the drama and entanglements...the woman clearly has low self esteem if she gives audience to a man who cheated on her. Don't let any man near your children until you know them very very well. Dating does get easier when kids are older and have more independence. You have all the time in the world to find someone decent. He isn't, the red flags were floating high and you can use that experience to not repeat the same mistake without another man. Being single is rather nice compared to being with an idiot.

Peachmango44 · 16/05/2022 18:49

Thank you. Oh yeah I understand that I don't need to waste time deciding what they are. He does seem to have a pattern of behaviour. She just seems fucked up. She has no children so her adult life (she's 39) has been purely about her. She's taken herself to Disney land 3 times in the last few years with no children involved. So perhaps she really is just trapped in a childish world

Sick of them both and will be happier out of it I'm sure. I obviously miss him abit still but trying to look forward.

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Femalewoman · 16/05/2022 19:27

They should just carry on with their ridiculous games and you should distance yourself and have a real life with someone new.

What a pair of prats they are. You are better off out.

SoulGuardian · 14/07/2022 18:55

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