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How does one explain this to someone who just doesn’t get it?

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redhoodred1 · 27/04/2022 01:01

The Amber Heard and Johnny Depp case has really raised a lot of questions for me.

After years of severe coercive control and abuse, I found out that my ex partner had been recording and video taping my darkest moments.

The police just don’t understand. How do you explain the fact that he had all of this ‘evidence’ implying that you’re a total whack job but you have nothing?

I had absolutely pure intentions for my relationship and so it never occurred to me in any capacity to ‘gather evidence.’ I felt that his behaviour was my fault, so why on earth would I record him or take pictures of injuries when I felt so implicated and responsible?

On the other hand, I would be driven to the edge of insanity and then he would record the ‘outburst.’ Many weeks/months of calculated abuse went into preparing those very moments.

I see things so clearly now that I am out of it and have had counselling.

How on earth do I convince police that I am the victim here and NOT the aggressor?

He had me arrested for harassment after I tried to contact him to find out why I had been diagnosed with an STI that day.

Now I am stuck trying to ‘prove my innocence.’

Its been hell.

There are some incredibly sharp and intellectual women on here, any advice, suggestions would be grateful appreciated!!!

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Gowithme · 29/04/2022 09:23

Amber Heard has been diagnosed as having personality disorders hasn't she? Sounds like your ex has too, narcs can be incredibly charming and convincing. First you're put on a pedestal and then you're found to be not perfect enough and you are torn down, and torn down until they despise everything about you. They are brilliant at making you look crazy, mine could even do it nicely - as if he felt sorry for me. It made him look like the good guy and me as slightly unhinged. Mind you the lies and the gas lighting do start to make you wonder if you're paranoid and start to doubt yourself. He was constantly trying to line up other women (and men!) for 24 years.

OP I'm so sorry you're stuck in this not being believed. I have no idea what you do. Maybe start by writing everything down? Do you still see your counsellor and could they help in any way? This person is dangerous they will go to any lengths IME, I hope someone will listen to you.

redhoodred1 · 29/04/2022 09:37

Thank you, it’s a nightmare 😭😭😭😭😭

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redhoodred1 · 29/04/2022 09:38

I need to name a subject access request to find out if any other false allegations have been made that haven’t come to light. It would explain the police wanting to arrest me over something so ridiculous.

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FlowerArranger · 29/04/2022 09:40

Why did you accept a caution, thus admitting guilt?
Do you actually have a lawyer advising you?
I'd not do anything further without legal advice.

BlueIvy11 · 29/04/2022 10:05

I've got an ex similar. He's successful and so charming. Has a huge group of friends and well liked. But he was fucking awful. Used to belittle me and call the way I looked all the time. Would look down on my job. Hed never apologise for anything, hed say oh I did this because YOU did this. Would use silent treatment. I used to get in from work and he just wouldn't speak to me at all for no reason. Then he'd talk to me asif nothing happened, like a personality switch. He'd cry to me drunk that he was depressed. Was so obsessed with the gym. He used to hide me away as his mates didn't like the fact I had kids and used to make me feel crap about it, like i was unloveable. It was alot more to it than this but I honestly never felt so bad in my life. People still think he's this really nice guy. Took me 2 years to stop feeling horrible. This was over 3 years ago! I saw him last year and he's gone chubby and now I'm more successful than him. He tried to apologise to me and I just said, I'm not bothered and didn't give him the time of day. He still tries to get in touch though and tells me I'm the best person he's ever met 😂 like I'd fall for that. I honestly don't know where these men come from because none of my brothers are like this.

redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 00:17

FlowerArranger · 29/04/2022 09:40

Why did you accept a caution, thus admitting guilt?
Do you actually have a lawyer advising you?
I'd not do anything further without legal advice.

Noooo I didn’t accept a caution. I was released on a caution plus 3 instead since I balled my eyes out to the officer and he said he felt the arrest was very drastic. It was another borough police team so he was unable to just drop it as it wasn’t his case.
He just thought it was silly that they ordered my arrest in the first place.

ive made the first step in applying for a SAR today so let’s see if he’s made any other false Allegations that I wasn’t notified about! That would explain why they took such dramatic action.

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redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 00:23

BlueIvy11 · 29/04/2022 10:05

I've got an ex similar. He's successful and so charming. Has a huge group of friends and well liked. But he was fucking awful. Used to belittle me and call the way I looked all the time. Would look down on my job. Hed never apologise for anything, hed say oh I did this because YOU did this. Would use silent treatment. I used to get in from work and he just wouldn't speak to me at all for no reason. Then he'd talk to me asif nothing happened, like a personality switch. He'd cry to me drunk that he was depressed. Was so obsessed with the gym. He used to hide me away as his mates didn't like the fact I had kids and used to make me feel crap about it, like i was unloveable. It was alot more to it than this but I honestly never felt so bad in my life. People still think he's this really nice guy. Took me 2 years to stop feeling horrible. This was over 3 years ago! I saw him last year and he's gone chubby and now I'm more successful than him. He tried to apologise to me and I just said, I'm not bothered and didn't give him the time of day. He still tries to get in touch though and tells me I'm the best person he's ever met 😂 like I'd fall for that. I honestly don't know where these men come from because none of my brothers are like this.

Oh how I would loveeeeeee to bump into him looking horrendous and see he’s made no success of himself. He doesn’t deserve the nice parts of life! He’s ruined too many lives for that!

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BlueIvy11 · 30/04/2022 00:56

redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 00:23

Oh how I would loveeeeeee to bump into him looking horrendous and see he’s made no success of himself. He doesn’t deserve the nice parts of life! He’s ruined too many lives for that!

I honestly believe that if you treat people like shit, it will bite you right in the arse one day. It will come for him at some point. You probably qont give a shit by then though! Hope you're doing OK now!

maudesvagina · 30/04/2022 01:18

www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/get-help.

Raindrops2015 · 30/04/2022 07:41

I would go and make a complaint about previous domestic abuse. It might not be successful but they'll have to question him and it will give the turd a fright hopefully. I went out with someone very similar, not physically abusive but towards the bed there was 2 quite serious sexual assaults. I wish I'd reported it to the police at the time but didn't feel I could. He's disgusting. It was the worst year of my life. I honestly wish he'd never existed.

timestheyarechanging · 30/04/2022 09:14

I wish you well. Same thing happened to me a few years ago. Ex was controlling and coersive but I was the one who got arrested for harassment.

I sent two emails saying I'd found out he had cheated on me and what a c u n t he was. I didn't threaten violence but was arrested.

Interview was ok as my friend was with me and we took a written doc of all the things he'd done. He was the abuser.

Police took my phone for three months. Dropped charges.

His current partner got in touch with me via FB messager as he is cocklodging and he is doing the same things to her.

redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 11:44

timestheyarechanging · 30/04/2022 09:14

I wish you well. Same thing happened to me a few years ago. Ex was controlling and coersive but I was the one who got arrested for harassment.

I sent two emails saying I'd found out he had cheated on me and what a c u n t he was. I didn't threaten violence but was arrested.

Interview was ok as my friend was with me and we took a written doc of all the things he'd done. He was the abuser.

Police took my phone for three months. Dropped charges.

His current partner got in touch with me via FB messager as he is cocklodging and he is doing the same things to her.

Ohh really!! Can we discuss this please? Feels like my situation

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redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 11:45

BlueIvy11 · 30/04/2022 00:56

I honestly believe that if you treat people like shit, it will bite you right in the arse one day. It will come for him at some point. You probably qont give a shit by then though! Hope you're doing OK now!

Yes I hope not to care at all!

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redhoodred1 · 30/04/2022 11:45

It’s funny because these men neveeeeerrr act just once! I’m not surprised at all that his new girlfriend is contacting you saying the same thing

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coodawoodashooda · 30/04/2022 11:49

It is a nightmare op. Been in a similar situation. No idea what to advise but please stay strong.

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