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How on earth can I get out of this??

14 replies

Itwasfinethenitwasntfine · 23/04/2022 15:31

Sorry to seem overdramatic but I'm sitting here shaking and on the verge of tears.

I've been arguing on and off with my partner since yesterday basically about his drinking. It's a long story and I haven't got the energy to explain it in detail, but he drinks two bottles of red wine pretty much every day, usually preceded by 2 or 3 small bottles of lager.

I have anxiety and don't work (I've been trying to get a self employed venture going but it's slow progress) so am on universal credit with a mountain of debt and awful credit history.

My partner is self employed but started during covid and its been really slow, most months he's barely been making £300 and now his minimum income floor has kicked in, he's earning more the past couple of weeks but due to the nature of his business its seasonal and work could dry up again next week or in a few weeks. He also has a spinal condition making proper work difficult and a rubbish credit rating.

So basically for 7 years we've been 'splitting up' almost weekly, except it never ends up with us actually splitting as I can't go through with it - how can I rent anywhere with rubbish credit and same for him really.

It just blew up again - I've been trying to convince myself all day that really, it's not so bad. He's been violent in the past although I always lashed out first in frustration - during an argument I would pick his phone up and throw it at his lap for example, he would then stand up, get in my face and push, hit,grab me...he got me in a chokehold once.

Anyway he switched from "I'm an alcoholic, I don't think I'm willing to try and stop" fairly calm talk, to him suddenly standing up and shouting "I'm an alcoholic you stupid woman!" I can't even remember what I'd said to provoke that reaction but he looked so angry that I burst into tears and threw the remote at him. Not an excuse as I shouldn't have done it at all but it wasn't hard, just a temper chuck. Anyway he got in my face and raised his arm back to hit me, I pushed him and left the room crying and he has gone out.

I'm still having palpitations and my children are upstairs hearing this :(

He may be an alcoholic but if I leave this house I'm intentionally homeless and although he's been emotionally abusive in the past and we've had these fights, that's not enough is it, as I'm not being abused 'now'

So what do I do?

I wish I could just take the kids and leave now but I just can't see how I can get any help and womens aid aren't answering their phones.

Any advice appreciated but please try and be kind - I know how shitty I am for lashing out and I know my children are suffering. I just can't see how to change things.

OP posts:
buddy79 · 23/04/2022 15:45

You are not being shitty. Throwing a phone is obviously not great but it is nothing compared to a man “push, hit, grab” towards a woman. What stands out from your post is “he got me in a chokehold once”. That is a massive red flag and I think you are completely right to be trying to leave, with your children. Immediate safety is your priority and sorting out money etc will just have to come after … one step at a time, one day at a time. I don’t know enough about housing law but I think it’s you are obviously physically threatened that must trump everything else, surely, especially if there are children - how old are your kids? My best advice is to keep trying women’s aid, refuge, and if you need to, social services or the police. That might sound scary but social services will be there to prioritise the children’s safety and May be able to help you. I’m sorry you are in this position. You are doing the right thing to try and get out.

buddy79 · 23/04/2022 15:47

According to shelter if you leave housing due to domestic abuse you are NOT classed as intentionally homeless
england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/homelessness/intentionally_homeless

Loopytiles · 23/04/2022 15:48

Prioritise your DC and leave asap.

his primary relationship is with alcohol. It won’t get better if you stay.

Loopytiles · 23/04/2022 15:49

If he’s an immediate danger to you or the DC, call the police.

MJ123 · 23/04/2022 15:51

This sounds horribly toxic on both sides tbh.

You need to prioritise your children and get out. Today ideally.

Have you got friends/family?

Making yourself intentionally homeless won't count as there is domestic violence/abuse. Please seek help

Itwasfinethenitwasntfine · 23/04/2022 15:55

I just phoned the council out of hours team and they asked if I felt unsafe and if they wanted them to contact housing options to put us in a b and b.

In the end we agreed I'd phone them on Monday but if it escalates when he gets back I can phone them back today.

I just can't bring myself to think I'm I'm danger - in reality, when he comes back he will have a couple of bottles of wine and drink those then ignore me all evening.

I'm scared he might do something harmful but I think that's just more my heightened state of anxiety than a real threat.

I don't know what to do :(

OP posts:
Itwasfinethenitwasntfine · 23/04/2022 15:57

@MJ123 only my mum in a town half an hour away but her house is full and she never seems to believe me when I say I'm splitting with him. Of course not, I never actually do it.

No friends.

OP posts:
whoturnedthesunoff · 23/04/2022 16:04

Why do you think you are not being abused now ? You are

Please please think of the impact on your children
You are teaching them that this is normal and good enough
You all deserve so much better
Please take them up on the offer of a fresh start and get out of this relationship

You will eventually realise how much better off you are , be strong and good luck 💐

Penhaligon · 23/04/2022 16:13

You need to leave. What an awful, toxic, dysfunctional environment for your children to grow up in. I know the impact/damage that will be done from first hand experience.
As an aside, how the hell is he affording £15-20 a day on beer and red wine?
Maybe you'll be better off financially if you leave!

MJ123 · 23/04/2022 16:21

Itwasfinethenitwasntfine · 23/04/2022 15:57

@MJ123 only my mum in a town half an hour away but her house is full and she never seems to believe me when I say I'm splitting with him. Of course not, I never actually do it.

No friends.

You would be safer in the B&B.

Even if he doesn't hurt you, this relationship is clearly driving you to be someone you don't want to be e.g. 'lashing out' and throwing things.

Your DC shouldn't have to live with an abusive alcoholic and you need to prioritise giving them a safe, calm and together Mum

TobyHouseMan · 23/04/2022 17:36

From my experience with my father being an alcoholic it gets worse. It sucks the life out of YOU as well as you're expected to just hang around whilst they get pissed. Its terrible.

I'm loth to say leave but it sounds like you've been thinking about it for a long time, maybe posting here is the push you need.

There is so much more to life than living with an alcoholic.

buddy79 · 23/04/2022 22:32

How are you OP?

Aquamarine1029 · 23/04/2022 22:34

I just can't bring myself to think I'm I'm danger

Perhaps it's time to start thinking about your kids and the hell they are living in.

Graphista · 24/04/2022 00:20

but if I leave this house I'm intentionally homeless

You're not because you are leaving due to relationship breakdown and dv - and yes you've been abusive to him too but ultimately he is bigger and stronger and if you're being honest here (although I suspect you're for downplaying a fair bit!) then he is being worse

There are children involved here you don't actually have the right to decide to continue to keep them in a volatile and abusive home you just don't

Get onto women a aid, the council, welfare rights etc and get you and dc out

This is not safe or healthy for anyone involved

But you are in danger - as are the dc

I grew up in a home like this BELIEVE ME the best thing you can do for dc is get out asap!

I'm 49 and I'm very much still dealing with the effects and I left home 30 odd years ago!

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