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Don't know what to do - marriage

25 replies

joG00sey · 12/04/2022 21:29

I am struggling to figure out where i am/what I'm doing.

I married in 2013, and we had our first child in 2016, and second in 2017. We have 2 awesome boys.
In October 2019 he slept with one of his female friends. I put this down to him being sad that his brother was relocating to another country (it all happened after his brother's leaving do). I struggled with what to do at the time, but figured we would give it a try to fix things. We went to an initial Relate session and talked about what had happened... they suggested sex counselling for me... as my husband said he cheated as he wasn't getting the intimacy from me that he wanted.
I agreed (as my sex drive has never been particularly high) and thought it was worth investigating - perhaps if that was better, our relationship would be better. We were on the waiting list and were eventually offered some sessions... but he never confirmed and thus we didn't ever get to counselling.

Things got a little better as he felt guilty. Though he still felt he could be friends with the person he cheated on me with. I forced him to cut ties if he wanted to be with me. Which he did (although I still caught him talking to her another time before he actually cut ties).

He's always liked a drink and being sociable but it seems to have escalated. He drinks most nights and thus results at times in a hangover where he wont want to move from the sofa (our boys are now 4 and 6...). Our boys know that daddy wont get up out of bed for them in a morning, so they just don't go to him.

In the last 6 weeks, 3 nights (at weekends) he has had people drinking at our house (normally just 1 or 2 family members or friends), which goes on until 1 or 2am - meaning i cannot sleep as they are loud and very drunk.
I suggested to him the other day that in future, could he please do it elsewhere as i cant sleep (it also makes our boys stir but i didnt tell him that). He has barely spoken to me since.
As a result I dealt with the 20th anniversary of the death of my grandfather by myself without any support (we were really close and i cried a number of times that day).

Tuesdays our sons go to karate. 7-8pm. it's a regular appointment and in our shared google calendar so no excuses. He forgot and scheduled to play snooker with his dad and brother.

So he had to join them late, resulting in him being short with our children as we got them ready for bed. I told him 'stop it' as he was being so short with them and he responds with 'i hate that!'

He regularly schedules things at times i have things planned for, meaning we have to ask our parents to help out for childcare, or i have to come home early so that he can also go out.

He never takes the kids to school, despite us both working at home and starting work at the same time (9am). If he has annual leave he only does things he wants to do (and still won't do pick up/drop off for school).
I feel like i'm his mother as some mornings i have to tell him to get up in time for work (and he's literally just started a new job).

2 weekends ago, i broke down to him as i was exhausted. I spoke to him as 'i feel....' so that i wasnt blaming him. But his suggestion was that I should see a doctor as he thinks there's something else going on. All washing and cleaning falls to me (admittedly i have fridays off to do some of that, but it needs more time than i have). He won't pay for a cleaner. So it has to get done sometime. He criticises when the house is 'dirty' but doesnt do anything about it. I told him i needed more help. His suggestion was that sunday mornings, we all do cleaning. Which would be great. It lasted 1 weekend.

He'll help tidy up the kitchen after dinner sometimes, empties dishwasher in the mornings and cut the grass when needed.

I am not depressed. I'm just really unhappy with how i'm treated.

So far this week in the evenings, Monday was band practice, today he's out with his dad playing snooker, tomorrow he's gaming with a friend, Thursday he's out with work and Saturday he's seeing a friend.

If we hadn't got children, i would be gone.

I feel like i can't leave, as otherwise he would barely see his children. Also I am very often the peace maker in the house as he is so strict / quick to shout at/reprimand them - he literally flies off the handle.

He has smacked our 4 year old before even though I've told him i don't agree with it and i think 4 is far too young for that sort of punishment regardless.
I am worried that our boys might end up scared of him. When i told him that, he pretty much told me that his dad was strict and their relationship is fine.

I fear his temper could lead to something else.

I really don't know what to do. I'm used to being given the silent treatment. If i tell him how i feel, he makes me feel like it's my fault.

Sorry if this is jumbled. I'm trying to make sense of all of this myself as i type.

OP posts:
MrMrsJones · 12/04/2022 21:36

You are better off as a single parent, he is a cheating, lazy asshole

fossilsmorefossils · 12/04/2022 21:38

Wow..... I think you should leave. I'm not sure staying so he sees the children is great for their development anyway. He is a shit partner and shit dad and it would be better that they don't get more attached to him.

You sound like a strong woman, believe in yourself. You don't need him. You'll even be happier by the sound of this.

GeneLovesJezebel · 12/04/2022 21:41

Only got half way before I decided you need to LTB.
He is pushing you and the kids out of his life, and I wouldn’t have forgiven the affair. Did you see that he made it your fault ?

middleofthelittle · 12/04/2022 21:44

Leave . You don't deserve to be treated like this. You haven't mentioned a single positive of this man?

I don't understand your logic of the children won't see him, dosnt sound like he parents as it is and when he does he's violent and abusive to them too?

You genuinely would be better off without him and so would your children.

Cakeandcoffee93 · 12/04/2022 21:46

Get rid of his ass and know your worth xx

MrsKeats · 12/04/2022 21:49

What is the point of him/this relationship? Exhausted and fed up just reading this. Life is short-get out of this and make a new life.

Kite22 · 12/04/2022 21:54

Another who only got half way through your OP, and was wondering why you have let him stay.
In what way does he enhance your life, or your dcs' lives ?

joG00sey · 12/04/2022 21:54

Thanks all.

I totally see how he blamed me for him cheating. I'm often blamed for various things.

When he is an engaged father, he's great. He just has other priorities a lot of the time.

I'm worried that if we split, he would have more alone time with the boys, and i'm not there to be a peace maker.
I wouldn't be there to step in when his anger kicks in / to explain to the boys what they're doing wrong.

OP posts:
GeneLovesJezebel · 12/04/2022 21:56

I doubt he’d actually want them 50%, it would get in the way of his social life.

NewYorker80 · 12/04/2022 21:57

He is a shit father and will be teaching your boys that this is how "loving relationships" work. You are reinforcing that learning by staying and tolerating this. Get them away or kick him out before they grow up to be exactly like him.

almond123 · 12/04/2022 23:19

"In October 2019 he slept with one of his female friends. I put this down to him being sad that his brother was relocating to another country"

I put it down to him being a lying cheating , with no integrity as a man 🤷‍♀️.

As for the rest, as a single parent, I can say that life is certainly not plain sailing. But its an awful lot easier than life with a man-child in tow. And I totally agree with the comment above - this lazy man will mosg certainly not want 50/50 (youll end up trying to get him to take them at all).

Coldiron · 12/04/2022 23:29

@joG00sey

Thanks all.

I totally see how he blamed me for him cheating. I'm often blamed for various things.

When he is an engaged father, he's great. He just has other priorities a lot of the time.

I'm worried that if we split, he would have more alone time with the boys, and i'm not there to be a peace maker.
I wouldn't be there to step in when his anger kicks in / to explain to the boys what they're doing wrong.

I stayed with my stbxh for a long time because I thought that somehow I was moderating his anger towards the kids.

I realised that even with me there he was still having angry outbursts, all I could do was reassure the kids that it wasn’t okay and they didn’t deserve it.

Now I have left they have 80% of their time in a peaceful house with guaranteed no anger and shouting which is much better for their mental health. I think there is also much less shouting when they are with their Dad now, as he only has them for a limited time he is able/wants to keep his temper in check.

Aquamarine1029 · 12/04/2022 23:36

You wrote this post because you know you should leave him, and you know he's a cheating, lying, useless arsehole.

Don't waste one more day with him.

WhatsitWiggle · 12/04/2022 23:43

It won't get better. You will muddle along for the next however many years, slowly resenting each other more and more. I know, because I'm there, and if I could turn back time I'd have kicked him out after the affair. You are worth more than this.

Given how much he wants to lead a single life whilst you're together, I agree with PP that he's unlikely to want to co-parent 50/50.

Babdoc · 12/04/2022 23:45

OP, you seem to be asking for “permission” to leave this shit of a husband. You don’t need it - you can divorce him for any or all of the many vile behaviours he displays - but if you want it, I and all the PPs will gladly give it to you!
LTB. Before he damages you and your DC any further, and before they see him as a role model for future relationships.

IdblowJonSnow · 12/04/2022 23:50

Leave! Sounds absolutely dreadful! He's abusive op.
Do you have any real life support?

Onthedunes · 12/04/2022 23:51

He's an inconsiderate c...

Get rid, you deserve better.

Momijin · 13/04/2022 02:00

Lazy, cheating bastard husband and abusive towards the kids because he can't be arsed being a parent. You would be so much better off without that idiot in your life.

Blimeyherewegoagain · 13/04/2022 02:05

People don’t sleep with other people because they are sad about a relative moving away.

Geppili · 13/04/2022 02:43

Divorce his pathetic cheating arse.

TacCat49 · 13/04/2022 03:43

Please see a lawyer and find out your rights to stay in the house with your 2 boys. But you must LTB.

needmorethanthis · 13/04/2022 05:44

I think you’d shine without him. He’s dragging you down

autienotnaughty · 13/04/2022 06:13

Being a single parent is scary but my experience was that it was so much easier. Without exdh I felt I could relax. Do things as I wanted, I was so much happier. Maybe start looking into the practicality of separating. One thing I have learnt over the years is people can change for them selves but they can't change for other people. Unless he wants to change (and it doesn't sound like he does) it will always be like this.

Gamezup · 13/04/2022 06:46

What a vile narcissist he is. You'd be better off and happier without him.

YRGAM · 13/04/2022 07:18

You already know that you want to leave him and have to leave him. Good luck

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