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Second Best

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User838960 · 17/03/2022 15:06

I'm not sure I'll push send on this, but I feel like I need to call time on being second best. And writing it out feels somewhat therapeutic.

I fell in love with my partner. Head over heels, in love. It genuinely felt like a connection I have never felt before. And perhaps it was love bombing and I were naïve to it. But I genuinely felt like I had met my person in the world.

When we met, he was moving back to his hometown. Hours away from me. After three months of doing the distance, he moved back to be with me and as much as I wanted him to find his own place, we were in lockdown and it just felt easier to be together. Outside of our relationship he had a daughter, who he saw every second weekend. I met her 9 months into our relationship. I adore her. She is the easiest thing about us.

Relationship with daughters mother was volatile (to put mildly). Constant blocking, abuse, weaponizing daughter, all coming from her upon finding out about our relationship. I can't be bothered going into the intricacies of her behaviour but over the course of 2 years she has completely come between us. And I don't blame her for that. I blame myself and my partner too for not being better at communicating the damage she was doing to us. Btw I am not OW. Came along 2 years post breakup.

She has stopped us seeing DSD, she has stopped me for months on end but allowed partner, she has blocked contact, upped child support if my name was mentioned (no agreement in place), threatened all sorts. It has been such a tumultuous trying time to the point we agreed partner move back to hometown and we do long distance as I know DSD must come first.

It's getting to the point now where I cannot cope with being so disposable any longer. I am tired of being a sounding bored to what the ex does to him. No matter what approach I take - I always am to blame. If I take an impartial approach - he assumes I'm not interested and I'm hurrying him off the phone. If I take a heated approach - he then defends her (despite me taking his stance initially). If I take an emotional approach and express her words about me are too much to hear - he takes the stance that he cannot keep me and her happy and can't be in the relationship.

I cannot win. I cannot see how I fit into this life anymore. I don't know whether I am in the wrong. Whether I am the one who can't compartmentalise what has happened. I am supposed to be moving to be with this person and I just cannot see how I fit into this world anymore or even want to be in it?!

I guess I'm just hoping for some advice from anyone who has been through similar. Is it a life of just being the bigger person and squashing how I feel in order to be with this person? I get there are nightmare exes out there, but surely the actual partner wants to be on the same team as you?! And support you through it? Rather than making out like I should just accept it and I'm the problem if I don't>!

I won't go into why my partner does not have the emotional capacity to go through the courts right now for fear of not seeing DSD a very long time. He basically tries his best to keep the peace.

I don't think I am cut out for this. I don't think I'm asking for much other than the respect to support me sometimes as much as I support him. As soon as I take issue with ex's actions it's world war 3.

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needagoodnightsleep1 · 18/03/2022 09:39

Agree with pp this wont get any better. Also been there got the tee shirt!! I always felt second best to the ex and dc. We got married had a dd, i thought things would change but they didnt! But worse of all its not just me now that feels second best i feel its both of us now. Horrible situation wish id had some of this advice before Thanks

User838960 · 18/03/2022 10:28

@Triffid1 Yeah I get that. I guess I've always looked at it from the perspective that she hasn't let him have DD outside of that time. But in hindsight that's wrong. He likely hasn't asked for more. He hasn't offered the support. You are right. Feel like an idiot for being hoodwinked with that!

@needagoodnightsleep1 Yep it's a constant cycle of romanticising the life we could have if something changed. But it's a total fantasy! I'm so sorry yourself and your DD both feel second best.

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FlowerArranger · 18/03/2022 10:49

Not even sure I want to shock him into action at this point. On one hand I want him to come snivelling back with his tail between his legs after our last blow up. On the other hand, I never want to speak to him again.

Wanting him to come snivelling back with his tail between his legs is your knocked back self-esteem talking..... You want the opportunity to tell him to get lost. Which is the right thing to do - as you evidently recognis - because not wanting to ever talk to him again reflects your true feelings.

You're getting there!! Flowers

GaryTheCat · 18/03/2022 10:55

Ha yes, the ‘romanticising the fantasy if something changed’ YEP! This!!

My BF still occasionally likes to try and talk about moving in together (‘when do you think you could be in a position to’). It’s all fantasy and I refuse point blank to discuss. I just did a 10yr fixed rate mortgage deal on my home. That’s how much chance there is.

Part of the picture of his dysfunctional dd is that when she was really struggling with her MH (I didn’t really know what was going on, had just met him) he wasn’t even present. Neither was her mum (emotionally) but neither was he. When all that was going on he was busy striking up a relationship with me… so yeah while he wrangles with the idea that ‘just being nice’ to his dd as Sone Divine Sacred Act of Good Parenting, I just don’t buy that crap. No siree. When she needed help he was nowhere.

As a society we accept this crap way too readily, lauding dads for merely clapping eyes on their kids EOW. That’s not parenting.

Find a better father for your prospective kids.

Leaving this relationship could be one your best ever life moves.

Sounds like your’e ready to consign this relationship to the bin. Congrats.

You’ll be fine. Best of luck Flowers

User838960 · 18/03/2022 11:21

Yep and 'lauding dads for merely clapping eyes on their kids' is just so accurate. I have thought he was an amazing father because I could see the patience and the love he would give to his child. But that's the bear minimum a parent should give?! What a fool I am. He doesn't do anything beyond the scope of the weekends he is expected to have DD.

Pffft totally ready to bin this. I have been protecting him to everyone by not speaking the real truth. Even this is a tenth of the issues we have experienced, I haven't even scratched the surface of the other hurtful behaviours that have gone on and I've made excuses for.

Weirdly, I think it's because of my age. I'm clinging to this relationship for the fear of another failed one, knowing full well I want a family. For what? We only have one life don't we!

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FlibbertyGibbitt · 18/03/2022 11:59

My ex had 3 kids with his ex wife. Honestly it was the worst two years of my life as she was domineering.. everything was my fault when I pointed out what she was like to him. Anyway after him suggesting he move in with me ( he rented and gambled ) I own, was the icing on the cake. I got the Ick and ended it. No thanks. You’ve got at least 13 years of her interfering in your life.

FlowerArranger · 18/03/2022 12:03

I'm clinging to this relationship for the fear of another failed one, knowing full well I want a family. For what? We only have one life don't we!

Families are overrated. A source of great joy when all is well, but they can destroy you if things go awry. Which they often do. As you'll know if you read widely on MN... Other ways of leading a fulfilling life are available Wink

GaryTheCat · 18/03/2022 12:12

Grin @FlowerArranger

Good advice.

layladomino · 18/03/2022 13:55

Too right! He has shown that he isn't longterm material. He has dragged you in to his problems then blames you for them. You've looked after him (bf rates / cooking and cleaning) and yet you have none of the benefits of him being committed to you.

Leave and give yourself the chance to find someone new and to have children and the life you want.

Rosered2 · 18/03/2022 14:27

Been living with my partner 6 years now so I know his hang ups ect and he is good we get on really well. He works nights but his always back in the morning and doesnt socialise at all. Only with me if we go out. Which makes this even stranger! He has never mentioned me to anyone of his work colleagues in conversation not once ! He has guys talk to him just general about their wifes ect but he never does the same he wont talk about anything we are doing he doesnt mention me at all. Even recently I've had bad times and a bereavement he will not phone work to say his having time of! He says he will just take the time of! So again his not telling work . Just why really would like a outside point.

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