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Emotional infidelity and other issues by husband

43 replies

val1965 · 16/03/2022 04:43

I am sorry if I ramble a bit with this, but right now it's like I am living an ongoing nightmare with probably no end in sight.

My life over the past 30 years with my husband hasn't been easy, in fact, it's been mostly heartbreaking and full of anxiety and sadness. From him being a gambling addict and going through 2 court cases of embezzlement which led to him losing various jobs, to his drinking (he's not an alcoholic but I think he can be borderline sometimes), to his rude behaviour (not all the time), disrespect and recently his estrangement from our 23 year old daughter who has had enough of him (she lives with us and sees his behaviour). With all this, I have supported him, forgiven and tried to keep our marriage. I guess you can call me insecure and just wanting to be happy (I had a traumatic childhood, so I think this may have a lot to do with who I am as a person).

The last straw is now - I found out 3 weeks ago that while on his job (he does shift work) - he has been texting over the last 3 months a female co-worker who is believe it or not 23 years old (yes, same age as our daughter). She has filed a sexual harassment complaint with the company he works for and Fair Work. The evidence she provided with screen shots of texts was gut wrenching for me and with all the things that he has done in the past, this was the last thing I ever thought he would do. She supported her complaint with a lengthy report of incidences that happened at the workplace as well as outside of the workplace with him contacting her. For example, he would text her to send him a photo of her ("naughty one please"), and other inappropriate things. She then wrote a comprehensive report detailing all the incidences that occurred which were quite shocking. He has denied all that she has written in the report, but can't deny the texts, but hasn't really explained why he did that. He's blaming her for some strange reason. They have not had a physical relationship and from what I suspect, she has being rejecting him and then he started turning on her and complaining about her work, and then she filed the suit.

Unfortunately, his company (he has been there over 8 years) has given him an alternative - either resign or be sacked. He has now resigned with shame and is trying to find another job in the same field, but needs a police check and other criminal checks which of course will bring up his past offences (over 20 years ago). He is waiting on those checks as they are under scrutiny.

My anxiety is through the roof, I'm living hour by hour, day by day. My kids know and are disgusted and are urging me to leave their dad. They have no respect for him.

There's so much more I can add to this, but I can go on for a while.

Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading thus far.

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val1965 · 16/03/2022 07:47

Thanks everyone for your replies and I understand - yes, I will be leaving him. I feel disgusted, repulsed and just so sad. What have I done to deserve this - it is just not fair. Not in any way justifying his behaviour - but we have had some good times - traveling overseas various times, buying a lovely home, etc., but I know, what he has done/doing overshadows all that. Just a question - can I keep living in our home with my daughter? We still have a mortgage and I can afford to live here on my wage alone. Do I have grounds to fight him for the house?

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cheapskatemum · 16/03/2022 07:49

I would advise accessing counselling for yourself as you are enabling his behaviour by staying with him, to the detriment of your own mental health. Is there a group local to you for people who are co-dependent? Once I understood the meaning of co-dependence and how it affected my relationships, I was able to progress and I would like to think this will be of help to you too. I'm sure your traumatic past is affecting your attitude to staying in the marriage.

val1965 · 16/03/2022 07:52

Hi cheapskatemum

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head. I am co-dependent and have lost all my self-esteem and confidence, hence my tolerating all of this. I need to see someone from outside the circle. My kids are amazing - successful adults and yet still I feel insecure. I'm not afraid of being alone - in fact, over the many years, I often dream of being alone and loving it, it's just making it happen is so hard.

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cheapskatemum · 16/03/2022 07:52

Sorry, cross-posted, I see you are now going to leave the marriage. I would still advise counselling to better understand yourself, though. I fear you might end up in another relationship that is not healthy for you. Best wishes for your future. Are you saying that you can't afford the mortgage on your own?

val1965 · 16/03/2022 07:53

I can afford the mortgage and other living expense on my own, but the mortgage is joint and I want the house - that's the least he can give me.

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cheapskatemum · 16/03/2022 07:53

Cross-posted again! Could you re-finance the house?

cheapskatemum · 16/03/2022 07:54

I'm sure many will say the same here: go and see a lawyer.

val1965 · 16/03/2022 07:55

Thank you for your advice - yes I guess I can look into that, but I'll end up with a big mortgage. I am 56 now.

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Crikeyalmighty · 16/03/2022 09:04

I’m not sure about the house, you need to see a lawyer for that. As technically although he’s a complete c* he is still entitled to half of assets and as you don’t have a young child I think you might have to be in a position to buy him out— depends I think what he agrees to— if the shame gets to him. I feel for you OP - it’s awful when you are older and have stuck with someone to find out that not only are they an arse but a sleazy disloyal arse too- I’ve been there.

lisaandalan · 16/03/2022 16:33

Why are you saying there is no end insight, of course there is get rid of him, simple as that, before you lose your children, they will move out and you will lose them over a loser.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 16/03/2022 17:42

This isn't emotional infidelity.

It's a man sexually harassing a coworker.

He is disgusting.

To stay with him now would ruin any future relationship with your children, who thank goodness see him for what he is.

A selfish, abusive arsehole who has managed to grind you down to such confusion and skewed boundaries that you view him sexually harassing a victim as him having an emotional affair.

Thank god he's left his job so she is now safe.

Now you need to leave him.

MuthaHubbard · 17/03/2022 06:23

Imagine this was your daughter. a bloke old enough to be her dad asking for naughty pics etc? Would you want anything to do with a man who did this to her?
Absolute lowlife

Thisisworsethananticpated · 17/03/2022 06:51

Just because of the marriage and longevity and history , doesn’t mean you owe him shit
He will play that victim line and wanting your support till the day he dies

Imagine waking up and he is your sad ass ex
Please free
Yourself

billyt · 17/03/2022 15:32

He's a liar, thief and perv.

If he has any shred of decency (although I doubt it very much based on what you write) he will not fight you over anything you want.

You need to put your and your daughter first. He certainly hasn't

DuchessofAnkh22 · 18/03/2022 07:36

@val1965 Hope you are OK?

val1965 · 21/03/2022 00:49

Thank you, I am coping as best as I can. I am exploring my options, financially, and making sure that I have enough money stored away for me to leave soon. It's an ongoing nightmare, but I have to go through it. Thanks again for checking in.

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bluesberry · 21/03/2022 02:33

@val1965

Thanks everyone for your replies and I understand - yes, I will be leaving him. I feel disgusted, repulsed and just so sad. What have I done to deserve this - it is just not fair. Not in any way justifying his behaviour - but we have had some good times - traveling overseas various times, buying a lovely home, etc., but I know, what he has done/doing overshadows all that. Just a question - can I keep living in our home with my daughter? We still have a mortgage and I can afford to live here on my wage alone. Do I have grounds to fight him for the house?
His behaviour is nothing to do with you. What have you done to deserve this? Absolutely nothing. His behaviour is about him, not you.

He can't be helped. But you can. Obviously your anxiety is through the roof because you're waiting for the next bad thing to happen....is it even really anxiety at this point?...your body is expecting something bad to happen because with him it will.

PerseverancePays · 21/03/2022 06:36

Well done for making the decision to separate. As well as all the practical things you need to do, please look for the help you need for your own self esteem. It might start with a visit to the Gp for your anxiety and explore self help groups and therapy. This will give you some much needed support after carrying all the burden of your dysfunctional husband for so many years.
It might be worth asking your husband to leave the marital home to give you some space , he might go while he's feeling some shame for his behaviour.
Some time for you now, sending you flowers and a hug.

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