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Financial advice needed

22 replies

PaulinaG93 · 14/03/2022 16:14

Hey guys!

I’m looking for a bit of advice on what to do, be aware it’s going to be a long post as I want to explain everything clearly.

I been with my partner for nearly 3 years now. I would say over this time I mainly provided financially for us, stuff like bills, groceries, take aways, clothes, toiletries etc.

He has a full time job. My income is benefits which is mostly disability for my son, I do get a fair bit don’t get me wrong but let’s not pretend here that it’s a fortune, it’s enough for a very basic life for myself and my son, most months I’m worried about money and get left with pennies until payday. I make sure my son has everything tho, he comes first and I don’t spend any money on myself unless it’s absolutely necessary.

Now we started living together pretty much in June last year, I sorted all the bills, groceries etc. He did help out when I needed it, if I said to him I’m short on money he would send me money over to help out with the expenses. Over the last 2-3 months I finally managed to get all my money sorted so I’m on an okay income ( basically in June I lost half my income as I had to leave my job), but again it ain’t a fortune. So over the last 2-3 months whenever I asked him for help I asked to borrow money off him, he was happy with that as if I ask to borrow I always give every single penny back. He has helped little bit with treats like take away and a little bit of shopping but that’s it. Considering how much life has been costing lately and I’m sure everybody noticed how everything is costing more, prices going up etc it’s been really hard.

Two weeks ago I borrowed £300 of him, when I asked he was okay with borrowing but he commented that I’m on so much more money now I should be fine etc. I lied to him and said it’s just my pay dates being changed and that’s why i been struggling as I hate being questioned how much goes on what specially that all bills are always paid and he never ever goes without anything he needs. He did ask me how much I need off him a month to help out and I said nothing, I get really embarrassed about money and needing help, it’s basically a trauma response. Truth is i need him to start contributing to the household expenses just so I can catch a break and not stress so much about it.

I don’t know how to talk to him about money, I always get terrified he is going to be angry with me, question me and eventually refuse to help out, he never done so before but as I mentioned last time when I asked he wasn’t happy. I asked to borrow £200 first, and then ran out so I asked to borrow another £100 and that’s when he got a bit unpleasant and made a comment about I get much more money now than ever, where is my money going, do I need money of him monthly etc.

I can understand his side, he asked and I said no but it’s like can’t he see how much life costs? Doesn’t he think that it doesn’t matter how much I earn, we live together he should contribute to help out. He knows I struggle talking about money and having to ask for financial help causes me so much anxiety I could literally break down crying for days due to trauma I have experienced in my life. Maybe I’m just being a bitch because he has asked and I said no and now I’m moaning. I wish he would just say out of himself something along the time of ‘ I want to give you x monthly to contribute’ rather than me having to ask etc.

I told him that if I give him that £300 back this month I will be okay but the truth is I got no money left and I only been paid last week, and I’m freaking out scared as I don’t get paid again till two weeks. I know I haven’t over spend on shit, I paid the bills, done shopping that we needed and my bank account is empty.

Can anybody please advice me what to do? Do I even have a right to expect him to contribute monthly? Should I talk to him and tell him all this even tho I lied to him that I’m fine financially when I’m not, and I have known I’m not okay for a while? I’m so stressed out right now, I literally haven’t been about to sleep I’m so worried.

OP posts:
Serialchiller · 14/03/2022 16:20

He has a full time job and pays for nothing? He’s asked you what to contribute and you said nothing?
Can you say to him you’ve reviewed your finances and he actually needs to contribute xxxx amount. Of course you have a right to ask him.
Why do you feel the need to lie about your finances?
Does he get angry about other things?

PaulinaG93 · 14/03/2022 16:35

Serialchiller

No, he doesn't contribute at the moment. He used to no contribute but before when I was short on money he gave it to me to help out rather than now I borrow it off him and give it back.

I said nothing because I don't want him to think I'm with him just to get money of him, plus I struggle a lot with having help I always have to do stuff by myself otherwise I feel like I'm a failure if that makes sense.

I feel like I don't need to lie as such it's just when he asks me where is all my money gone it's almost upsetting as he doesn't seem to see how much life costs, he struggles seeing that living is just expensive if that makes sense. He only ever lived with his dad before he never had his own place and I think that's why he struggles to see it and understand it.

He doesn't get angry, he is an amazing person don't get me wrong, he has never ever got angry or shouted at me about anything but in my head like I'm terrified that he will be angry, that he will say horrible stuff to me etc I know I'm at fault here thinking all that cuz he never gave me a reason to be scared of his reaction, the most he ever did was a couple of unpleasant comments that go back to the problem that he doesn't understand how much life costs

OP posts:
FlowerArranger · 14/03/2022 16:42

He doesn't get angry, he is an amazing person don't get me wrong, he has never ever got angry or shouted at me about anything but in my head like I'm terrified that he will be angry, that he will say horrible stuff to me etc I know I'm at fault here thinking all that cuz he never gave me a reason to be scared of his reaction, the most he ever did was a couple of unpleasant comments that go back to the problem that he doesn't understand how much life costs

OMG........ where to start...

Presumably, when he moved in with you, you lost a lot of your benefits. And he is not contributing anything.

Plus he is making you scared and anxious. Don't kid yourself : he knows exactly what he is doing.

Google cocklodger.

And get rid of him. He is adding NOTHING to your life. Except stress.

Quitelikeit · 14/03/2022 16:43

Unfortunately you are being taken advantage of in a massive way.

I’m afraid to say this person is a disgusting, greedy low life who is living a free life at the expense of you and your son.

Insist that this man contributes and if you can’t say it to his face send him a polite message - we here can help you compose it if you feel it is easier that way

NoSquirrels · 14/03/2022 16:47

Why have you two grown adults moved in together and not sorted money out before?

Why is he ‘helping out’ not ‘contributing fairly’?

OF COURSE you should ask him for money. At least one third of the cost of rent, food and utilities. At least. None of this ‘borrowing and paying back’ shit.

Teeturtle · 14/03/2022 16:48

He isn’t an amazing person. He is a horrible man that is financially abusing you. Make no mistake he knows very well that things cost money and that he is keeping his money for himself whilst you pay for day to day expenses.

Don’t talk to him about money, he knows about it. Get rid.

NoSquirrels · 14/03/2022 16:49

He only ever lived with his dad before he never had his own place and I think that's why he struggles to see it and understand it.

How old is he? How old are you?

He’s acting like a teenager not a grown-up. You need to spell it out. You’re not his mum.

NoSquirrels · 14/03/2022 16:51

Truth is i need him to start contributing to the household expenses

This is what you tell him.

nearlyspringyay · 14/03/2022 16:53

He sounds like a nasty man.

How old are you op?

Glenthebattleostrich · 14/03/2022 16:56

You need to put your big girl pants on and have a proper conversation about money. He either pays a reasonable amount towards family costs or off he fooks.

He is literally taking food from your childs mouth and you are letting him.

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 14/03/2022 16:58

So he is living with you for free, eating the food you put on the table and paying nothing? Despite him having a full time job and you being carer for a disabled child?

As you will see from the responses here this is all wrong. He should be offering to pay his way; you should be happy accepting his money for his living expenses.

It does seem as if you have some issues over money/dependency, and it might be a good idea to get some counselling about this?

ShanghaiDiva · 14/03/2022 16:58

He is not an amazing person.
He seems to be living with you rent free and without contributing to other household expenses. You don’t need to ‘borrow’ from him; he needs to pay his way. If he cannot comprehend that then he needs to move out.

poodlepoop · 14/03/2022 17:08

Your benefits presumably dropped when he moved in and he doesn't contribute Confused he should be paying his fair share of bills at the very least. Does he not even contribute towards his food? You need to sit down and go through how much everything is and discuss what he is going to pay towards it

Stop borrowing money from him and ensure that he is paying instead.

Fatgalslim · 14/03/2022 17:17

Fucking hell he's got you right where he wants you hasn't he? If I was going to stay with him after the way I'd been treated so far, then he would be contributing towards the house, not helping you out when short. He should be offering this and paying it as standard.

M0RVEN · 14/03/2022 19:07

@PaulinaG93

Can you write out a list of all your monthly outgoings and your income and post it here ?

Then we can help you work out a budget and help you write your partner an email about it . I think that would be much less stressful for you than having a conversation. And he won’t have to ask you a lot of questions ( which makes you anxious ) as it’s all in writing.

Then you will both see where all the money is going.

Just the main headings will be fine

Income ( benefits , your salary after pension etc )

Outgoings - rent, council tax , gas, electricity, insurances ( house, life ) , TV licence, subscriptions Netflix, food, travel , child care etc etc

2DogsOnMySofa · 14/03/2022 19:07

OMG OP, why are you letting him treat you so badly.

Would you expect to live in someone's house and not pay a penny?

He should be paying 50% of all rent, food and bills.

Put your big girl pants on, wrote down all of the expenses, total it up, show him and tell him from his next payday he needs to pay exactly half

Alfiemoon1 · 14/03/2022 19:31

Why is he not paying rent food or bills if he’s living with you and working full time

Crimeismymiddlename · 14/03/2022 20:42

OP please work out his share of the rent and bills and sit him down and explain that actually you have reviewed the finances and you need x amount from him every month.
Don’t be surprised if he throws a fit and tells you that the benefits that are meant for your child should be enough to keep you all while he hoards his wages and occasionally ‘helps’ with short term loans. It is clear even to teenagers that bills need to be paid and food shops are needed. So using that to excuse him is a little weak. The fact he is not paying for the food shop and takeaways when you said no to his contribution to the household says that he is not decent. I bet he has a tidy sum put away and will be putting a deposit on a house that he may let you live in, so you can pay all the bills and food-but not go on the deeds/mortgage because you have not contributed to deposit, well you have by paying for his life but that is how he will tell you.

Haus1234 · 14/03/2022 20:47

I’m sorry if I’ve misunderstood this but he’s an adult with a full time job paying nothing towards rent, bills, food?? What is he spending money on??

Seriously OP of course you know he should be paying his way. It isn’t getting “help” from him, he’s sponging off you!

Quartz2208 · 14/03/2022 20:54

He is living with you and you pay all the bills.

If someone is in it for money it isnt you OP it is him.

You have to say if he is living with you he contributes to 50%

If he doesnt like it is over.

And no you havent borrowed money from him - he has paid his way.

I think first all of you need to sit him down and say EXACTLY where the money goes
Set out each bill and figure out a fair division

RosesAndHellebores · 14/03/2022 21:02

Are you saying he moved in before you got finances sorted out? Of course he should be contributing. You and your dc come as a package and he shoukd have been aware of income and outgoings and expectations before he moved in. It sounds as though you are giving more favours than you are receiving. That isn't right.

I'd send him back to his dad's. You'd get £350pcm for housing a Ukrainian refugee instead. The Ukrainian refugee would probably be nicer.

AwayInMyMind · 14/03/2022 21:25

Bloody hell OP.

He should be INSISTING that he pays half of everything !!

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