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Feeling conned

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Conundrum2022 · 14/03/2022 12:21

New name created for this...

I'm feeling very confused, upset ... and as the post name suggests... conned.

I guess what I'm looking for from this post will be some sort of validation, even advice on what's happened.

I met my husband several years ago following my very amicable, friendly divorce from exh.

We hit it off instantly, he was sweet, interesting and a joy to be around. During the initial dating period, husband told me he works a few days a week to keep him occupied following his retirement at age 32. Said he'd done well, and had no need to work really. At the time I was doing very well in my career too, I'd just brought me and my son a new house and was doing a complete refurbishment. Life was good. I fell pregnant and we decided to move in together. Husband refused to move into my house, he said he hated it, way too small. So off he went and found a lovely house for us to move into, said his friend owned it and we got a rental discount. I needed my name on the tenancy as a formality more than a financial need. Before signing, I made my concerns clear that as my maternity leave loomed, I'd have no income. Husband said its fine, the rent was a drop in the ocean ....

We move in and open a joint savings account, and as agreed all my wages of £3.5k go in. It took a few months, but he started putting his wages in too ... of £1500. Our rent alone was £2500. .... Alarm bells ring, but with my savings I sorted things out month after month. I'm told he has a huge settlement from his house sale coming in.... not to panic. We decide to buy a house together, I put mine up for sale and we discuss things with a mortgage advisor. My house money comes in .... his never did. Turns out as a very last minute 'goodwill' gesture, he signed the house over to his ex wife and child.

Pandemic hit, house plans and on hold. I'm not earning, we're living on my savings. He tells me he lost his job, and is feeling suicidal. Low and behold, he has zero savings to fall back onto. I ask about his retirement fund ... turns out he never retired... he just quit his job.

I have made alot of financial decisions based on things he has told me. He purposely deceived me and let me make decisions knowing full well he was lying to me.

I have questioned him and I'm told I misunderstood.

Back to the rental, he was friends with his boss who leant him a large sum of money to show the rental agency, and he wrote a financial reference massively inflating his wage in order to get this rental. We fell behind on bills of course and were left with massive debts which he refused to pay. I didn't want any CCJs so I agreed a monthly repayment which I am still paying.... he refuses to contribute and was happy to get a CCJ.

He is hugely financially irresponsible.

In-between times, when he proposed. He brought me a beautiful ring, but ruined the moment IMO by telling me it cost £15k and was platinum. I asked him to return it and he said no, he could afford it. I insured the ring fir the amount.... I took it to be cleaned as the 'platinum' was turnng yellow. .... jeweller told me its 9ct white gold and worth no more than £300 - £400. I confronted husband who breaks down in tears telling me he felt ashamed.

Somehow, I have become very insular. He is the only person in my life now, I have nobody I can go to for help .... this part of it scares me. It crept up on me. I don't want yo go into anymore detail on how this happened as it is outing .... but wow!! It's an odd situation I'm in. I've become enmeshed with only him.

He decided he wanted another baby, I said maybe in the future but with no career and renting our home I need more security. He starts crying, saying I've let him down .... we have sex, next day I get the morning after pill in secret (Bad of me to keep a secret I know) I fell pregnant which ended at 6 weeks. Within the week he's asking for sex, and when I refuse he says don't love him, and our marriage is on the rocks.

I know he's manipulating me. I know he was deceitful and I made many life changing decisions purely based on the information he gave me.

I want to leave, I want a divorce but am slightly stuck financially. I will be here for the rest of the year to ensure I have finances to get out. He is quite volatile emotionally, so I don't know how to go about it. Do I leave with the kids when he's at work one day? Do I tell him before I leave?

OP posts:
AthenaPopodopolous · 14/03/2022 17:27

He is financially irresponsible? I think you are and should have exercised due diligence. Why on earth would you trust him again?

Waterfordaston · 14/03/2022 17:28

This is one of the worst things I have ever read on here. I’m also stunned at how far this got and that you are still there.

Well done for typing it out - now you need to SAY it.

Howshouldibehave · 14/03/2022 17:31

I can’t get past him saying he retired at 32-that would have rung such alarm bells with me, I don’t think I wouldn’t have been able to get over something so blatantly untrue.

He is a massive con artist-what a shame you are so tied to him.

Crikeyalmighty · 14/03/2022 18:02

@IrishKatie1971. Yes that crossed my mind too— certainly someone in RL needs to be aware of your situation OP— even if it’s ‘off the record’ - be it solicitor or police— I think police will at least check if he has ‘known form’ for this- he may well have- at least if he hasn’t, he’s on their radar in future - contraception wise— Mm - I would be having plenty of issues’down below’ till you are in a situation to get out— I would also double check on land registry who actually owns the house, just in case this is another fast one he’s pulling

Crikeyalmighty · 15/03/2022 14:18

I couldn’t stop thinking about this last night — please do tell someone in RL OP - either someone you trust or police solicitor, so it’s on record..

Conundrum2022 · 15/03/2022 14:52

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the responses. Me and the children are OK. I'm putting a plan to leave together. I will keep things normal until we leave.... or he leaves. It looks like it will be the latter due to how the housing market works. I only want the kids to move once.

I have a local domestic abuse phone number g8liven to me by Womens aid. They will provide info on how to do things safely, and in a recorded way in case things turn nasty with custody at a later date.

I've been fooled, but as I am actually not a fool ... I can sort this and get me and the children out, back on our feet and we'll be OK💪💪

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dotdotdotdash · 15/03/2022 15:10

Hi @Conundrum2022, what do you mean about 'how the housing market works'. What has that to do with him leaving? Has he said that he intends to leave?

dotdotdotdash · 15/03/2022 15:12

Will you share what's happening with anyone in real life? I know you said that you were feeling isolated for reasons that could be outing. Do you have a friend or trusted colleague you could turn to?

Conundrum2022 · 15/03/2022 15:16

Looking into a shared ownership scheme. The rent where we are will be too high for me. But he needs to be left here or I can provide divorce papers to get a shared ownership mortgage.

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Conundrum2022 · 15/03/2022 15:17

@dotdotdotdash

Hi *@Conundrum2022*, what do you mean about 'how the housing market works'. What has that to do with him leaving? Has he said that he intends to leave?
He doesn't know of my intentions. I need to do things secretly ... awful really.
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dotdotdotdash · 15/03/2022 15:30

It sounds better not to indicate your leaving plans to him at all - sensible. What happened to the proceeds of your house sale? Are they ringfenced so only you have access?

It might be better to move quickly and rent, even if it means moving the family twice. I had to move twice with my kids last year and it was fine.

Also, please find a family law solicitor and disclose what is happening as they might recommend a protective order and best order to proceed with things.

What about family or friends - is there anyone you can reach out to (even if it has been a while)?

OhMygodddd · 15/03/2022 15:35

So…..his a con artist.

Leave!

Conundrum2022 · 15/03/2022 15:44

So, I don't even have enough to rent right now an adequate property right now. This is what I need to work on.

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dotdotdotdash · 15/03/2022 15:51

Okay, I understand. What happened to the proceeds of your house sale? And do you have any friends or family nearby for emotional support if nothing else?

SunshineAndFizz · 15/03/2022 15:56

Wow I'm gutted for you, this sounds so stressful.

If you can't leave immediately, it sounds like you've had lots of great advice above (solicitor, credit check, police) so secretly get your ducks in a row and get the f**k out asap.

Jaxinthebox · 15/03/2022 16:02

what about the money from your house sale?

You have already started putting plans in place to leave and you will be financially fine again, but PLEASE make sure you get some form of help so you dont fall foul of a hideous conman again.

Conundrum2022 · 15/03/2022 16:04

I have some money left in a seperate account from the house sale, this will help me.

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Pinkbonbon · 15/03/2022 16:07

@Conundrum2022

So, I don't even have enough to rent right now an adequate property right now. This is what I need to work on.
Maybe if they arrest him for conning you they will ask him to stay away from you for a while? And that would give you time to get out. I'd definitely speak to the police as its wise to have what he has done in record somewhere even if they say they can't take things further.

You could also go to your local council with the children and ask for emergency housing. Tell them you feel in danger from him. Though they may expect you to have made a police report first. Not sure on the exact details there but speak with women's aid and they'll keep you right.

This really isn't a situation where you should stay and save up op. This man is a con artist and sexually coercive and heaven knows what he could do next.

A shelter would be better than this.

Crikeyalmighty · 15/03/2022 17:22

I think sorting shared ownership is a very good idea OP- it doesn’t require vast amounts down or massive mortgages (although the more you can put down the less the rent element is) yet it gives you security of tenure— it’s not always cost effective as they overvalue initially —but sometimes things like this work well as a ‘needs must’!

Psychonabike · 15/03/2022 17:30

This guy has been gas-lighting you left right and centre. I bet every single thing that has been odd or confusing has been put down to you "misunderstanding".

He's a liar, a sociopath, a con-man...or in simple legal terms he has been financially abusive, using you as a means to a lifestyle he isn't prepared to work for.

Get out. And prepare yourself for the threats and blackmail.

Did you see the Tinder Swindler when he threw a tantrum?

D0lphine · 15/03/2022 18:22

Yeah this guy is abusive and a gaslighter 100%. Don't feel stupid, this sort of thing could happen to anyone. People like this are very psychologically manipulative.

Regarding your lost connections, can you consider reaching out to some people and explain what's happened? Some people might come back to being friends and offer support?

You must have had an amazing job to get £3.5k per month, can you go back to doing something similar? Doesn't need to be super high powered for now, just something so you can rent somewhere for you and the kids and pay the bills.

Im so sorry this has happened. You sound like such an awesome person. Well done for making the decision to leave im glad you're in co tact with womens aid.

user1471538283 · 15/03/2022 20:10

I bet he has form for this. Squirrel away as much as you can and liquidate any assets you have.

TracyMosby · 15/03/2022 20:15

This is so awful. Op meet with a solicitor to discuss options. Tell her eveything.

99pronouns · 18/03/2022 10:02

This is awful, he's conned you good and proper.

As well as obviously making your plan to escape I think you need to start thinking about building bridges with all the people you've distanced yourself from - it's classic abuser behaviour to isolate a victim from their allies.

The fact you are still having sex with him is ringing alarm bells with me, I really hope you've understood the severity of being conned by someone like him, he might not want to let you leave....

yzed · 25/03/2022 19:13

Conundrum
Please tell us you're okay. I'm worried for you. This guy is clearly very dangerous; he went into the relationship with lies from the start, and with intentions to con you from the outset. I hope you've found a safe place, but if you haven't please please put aside thoughts of finance and GET OUT.

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