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New relationship in 40s: how to play it? Chronic fatigue in mix

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Earlgrey19 · 10/03/2022 00:04

So, I’m in my 40s, divorced, 2 young kids, been in a relationship for 6 months with a guy also separated with a young kid, we live in same town. Feels in many ways great, and like we want a future together.

We have fallen into a pattern of seeing each other on Tuesdays and Sundays & staying over on those nights as neither of us has the kids those days. The kids haven’t met/don’t know about the relationship yet. There are other nights he doesn’t have his child when I do have mine, when he could come over for dinner or to hang out after they’re in bed. Sometimes I’d like that. But it tends not to happen. We speak on the phone the evenings we don’t see each other but he is often tired and a bit grumpy on the phone at night though it’s him who drives the phone calls, I find he’s much better in person.

Tonight he said at the end of the phone call “Will I see you Sunday?” I was hesitant because I wanted to say, how about tomorrow too? But I am often caught in a bind of not wanting to be too needy/ the one who wants more. He misunderstood my hesitation and is worried I’m pissed off at something, and don’t want to see him on Sunday.

The thing is, we agreed to take it slow because we both have major difficult things going on in our respective families. And I know that at our age people in new relationships can be geographically further apart and with kids etc so maybe I’m doing pretty well with meeting up twice a week.

And yet I’m regularly frustrated by it and feel like being spontaneous, not sensible sometimes.

He also suffers chronic fatigue, fairly mildly as he works and lives a pretty normal life but gets very tired and says sex, like exercise, causes him some of the worst fatigue so he needs to have nights off from seeing me to rest. I want to respect this and it also holds me back from saying “do you wanna come over”, but I still feel frustrated at times. How to handle?

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Earlgrey19 · 10/03/2022 00:18

Also: just to add: it’s also frustration at not going out on nice dates but it being largely at home, often watching films. He is a film person. Sometimes he says we should go to the cinema and have dinner or let’s go to that exhibition sometime but he doesn’t follow through & is definitely not a planner. I love him very much, though (we were friends before). AIBU to want some romantic nights out?

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PermanentTemporary · 10/03/2022 00:25

Chronic fatigue is a bummer. Is he really ok with going out or will going to the cinema or an exhibition mean he'll have to take the next few days off work? How would you feel if going out like that can't really be a part of a relationship.

In terms of not being a planner... why aren't you just booking the exhibition tickets with him then and there? You seem quite hung up on not making any moves in case you seem keen (why is being keen bad?) but getting frustrated that he doesn't. Why not just do stuff?

CrumpetStrumpet · 10/03/2022 00:25

Sorry op but it sounds a bit shit. He can't be arsed to take you out anywhere and only wants to see you a few times a week.

Why is it all on his terms? Why do you feel you can't ask for what you want. If requesting to be taken out and to see him more often makes him run then he wasn't worth having anyway.

You say it "feels like we want a future together" has he actually said he wants a future with you? More to the point why do you want a future with a man who doesn't even want to take you out? Six months in should be the honeymoon phase. If you're posting on MN about not being happy so soon into things them it's clearly not working.

You deserve better op. Don't settle for this guys crumbs.

Earlgrey19 · 10/03/2022 00:41

Yes, he says he wants us to have a future together.

The two different perspectives of @PermanentTemporary and @CrumpetStrumpet reflect a bit the conflicting feelings I have in myself about it — do I just take more initiative while also respecting his chronic fatigue, or does his style just not emotionally suit me so well. For context he’s going through a stormy divorce & I have someone close to me in my family terminally ill so a lot going on! But could still have a night out?!

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Bez3627 · 10/03/2022 01:19

Relationships shouldn't be this hard at 6 months. I would end it, sorry.

BookkeeperBobby · 10/03/2022 01:50

I think you need to talk to him. You are questioning how to proceed but you have gaps in your information that prevent you from making a decision.

That isn't necessarily his fault. He has learned to live with his condition and will likely be making all manner of minor adjustments including adjusting his expectations around social engagement without realising.

However you do not have this condition and you need him to spell it out to you. It's ok to ask. You are in a relationship.

Eg I would definitely ask about the going out thing. He says he wants to do things but never does. Is that due to fatigue or is it more about priorities or just being disorganised? Ditto seeing you other than two nights a week. Is he too tired to do more or is that just what he feels comfortable with?

Those answers will likely give you an idea about where you go from here.

Rickrollme · 10/03/2022 02:26

It sounds like he has a lot of challenges to be honest. He might be a great guy but he is not in a position to be the partner you want and deserve. It is obvious that you want to get out and enjoy life and explore a serious relationship with a like-minded partner but sadly I don’t think this man is going to be that for you. The thing about sex in particular sounds pretty dire. It’s not his fault but it just sounds like a really unfortunate dynamic that you wanting to be intimate is essentially asking him to feel awful afterward. I don’t see how that can work long term.

Before you make any decisions, though, it is worth a frank conversation as it sounds like you are drawing a lot of conclusions from things he hasn’t said. At 40+ life is too short to play games and hide how keen you are. If you want a relationship that’s going somewhere you can be clear about that without being needy. Maybe he’s also trying to play it cool. But if your suspicions are correct and he’s not able to give you more then you don’t need to waste any more time.

Sassbott · 10/03/2022 08:19

Have a very honest and up front conversation with him. 6 months in, you should be able to be honest with one another. You should certainly be able to ask to see him more often.

I would be honest, hear his response then ask myself (taking into account the wider relationship and much I like him/ get on with him) whether this relationship would do it for me. If he’s managing his life to live with CF then I appreciate he needs to limit his activities. Only you can figure out if that’s fulfilling for you. For example do you have friends you can do those activities with? Or do you want to do them with a partner?

Don’t compromise too much though. Life is too short and you’re still young x

Earlgrey19 · 10/03/2022 11:17

Yes, thanks for responses, that’s helpful — I probably do need to have a conversation about what we both want/need and what’s possible.

I guess sometimes I just doubt myself, feeling perhaps it’s unrealistic/ unreasonable to want more given we both have kids and have difficult life events going on now.

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