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Was my Ex impulsive or is there more going on?

29 replies

Favourflavour20 · 06/03/2022 21:08

Hi all Smile

I’ve gotten out of a year long relationship a few months ago. It was a complete rollercoaster relationship, my ex had been with well over a dozen relationships, none of them lasting as long as ours (a year) by the age of 32.
It was a complete rollercoaster relationship, i felt sucked in by his charisma, charm, confidence, independence, large (but often superficial) friendship network. The first thing he done was give me a new phone 3 weeks and even though I needed it I was very resistant to his over gift giving, I didn’t want to feel like he was buying my love. In the end I believed it was genuine and accepted his gift giving a few weeks later.
A few months in he told me when he was 14 he received a sexual assault caution from being caught with his 5 year old cousin, apparently she just burst into the bathroom. The reason he told me this was because he was going to get vetted due to my job and our relationship. He hasn’t ever received any therapy or spoke to anyone about this issue apart from me. We spoke it out and I believed it was a misunderstanding/childhood incident and went forward.

Going forward he stopped having sex with me (said was tired from work) eventually he told me, me knowing his caution caused him to feel uncomfortable even though I was extremely caring and supportive, that issue didn’t even cross my mind as BEING an issue.
Things went forward and I caught him having sent naked pictures to someone else on his phone. I was completely devestated and he acted as if it was no big deal. He didn’t lie about what happened but just showed no remorse just continued to watch tv. I cried for a bit then he told me “well if you don’t trust me, we shouldn’t be together”. He had me so wrapped round his finger that I ended up apologising and saying sorry.

Anyway in the end the story changed about the sexual assault, I told him to go see a solicitor about it to see if anyone can be done about it which he did. The story then changed saying he was accused of it happening in the bedroom, he pinned down his cousin, and there was a damp patch (he told me it was pee not cum?) on his cousins trousers. Anyway more and more of the story would change. I didn’t know what to think about it but continued moving forward.
One time when we were drunk he asked if I wanted a foursome with the person and their husband who he had sent photos too (they are in an open relationship) we did do it but I feel so obligated to do anything he wanted at this point. I felt horrible after and eventually he broke up with me because he “couldn’t be with someone that knew” and “needed to work on himself”. Because I cried for a few days after feeling like my self worth was at 0 from him still talking to this open couple. I never shouted or argued or got angry at him.
3 weeks later he gets in a relationship with someone 10 years younger (he always dates way younger) which is fine but I do find it weird when people ONLY date with a sizeable age gap, like it’s a requirement? And what happened to working on himself?

The police disclosed his sexual assault to an employer once as they had kids working there and One of my friends who completes DBS checks for the police and knows the ins and outs said that there was definitely more than what I’ve been told for a full disclosure of his incident or he had other incidents.

I feel like he tries extremely hard to show off this perfect charismatic image of himself and he uses that to pull people in. Once I knew his big secret (that I believed was an honest childhood mistake until now) it’s like his image was shattered and he became extremely cold and disconnected from me. We are in the same friendship circle so I have see him and he can be extremely cold to me sometimes but not when other people are round or to anyone else. I done nothing wrong in our relationship other than eat too loudly and butt into conversations sometimes but that was literally it, so why get so cold?
I know he’s got an extremely impulsive behaviour like drunk driving, party drugs, over spending all of which I didn’t like or ignored.

There are other things that made me feel wrapped up in him but this is long already Blush I know I made myself a doormat and had no boundaries, but he made me so attached to him, i feel like he done it on purpose to be able to do what he wants. He lacked empathy when he done things wrong and just completely turned off emotion, remorse or sympathy. That along with his fragile self image and offence, is there something wrong with him, like deep rooted cognitive issues or is he just an average impulsive bloke who’s done some stupid things?

Thank you for anyone that actually took the time to read all that - sorry!!

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bluejelly · 06/03/2022 21:15

God he sounds horrendous. Thank god you are no longer with him.

DatingDinosaur · 06/03/2022 21:17

Your ex was/is a lying, egotistical turd who didn't like being "outed" about his past and took it out on you.

Him behaving cold to you in person but not in front of others is another example of him trying to manipulate you. He's doing it to get a reaction/confrontation out of it. Don't give him the satisfaction. Say nothing. Rise above it and ignore him/walk away/rejoin your friends.

You definitely made the right choice in leaving him Flowers

Coyoacan · 06/03/2022 21:18

He's sounds appalling and have zero boundaries. Even knowing he is a paedophile you are more concerned about what he thinks of you. I recommend you join the Freedom Programme at the very least

Hohofortherobbers · 06/03/2022 21:24

Wow, you've had a lucky escape from a revolting specimen. I hope the police continue to keep tabs on him, he's destined for trouble.

britneyisfree · 06/03/2022 21:24

You should stop socialising with him full stop. He is a sex offender.

Do you have children???? Because honestly 14 is more than old enough to know you don't do things like that to a five year old.

You should never speak or look at him again.

Also you have somethings you need to work on but seriously, cut the abuser out like the sickness he is.

Somertime · 06/03/2022 21:31

You haven't done anything wrong, you have been manipulated. Sexual offenders can be some of the best liars and manipulators ever so don't feel bad you were taken in.
Going through the story about his offence is a way of creating a bond between you.
It is likely to be hard to rebuild yourself and your trust in others. But you feel like this because you are a good person who has been betrayed.

Be kind to yourself. It's so incredibly hard not to go back to a master manipulator as they bring up all the good times, use their charm to win you back. If that fails they try to paint you as the evil one, because they cannot deal with being perceived as the bad guy. It can really mess with your head.
Share your story with trusted friends or family and let them know how you are feeling. Don't feel embarrassed or ashamed- you have done nothing wrong.

Freedom project is good.
Read too about trauma bonding.

Movingonup22 · 06/03/2022 21:34

Well he’s a paedophile - so I’d be asking yourself why that is something that you are not immediately horrified by

catfunk · 06/03/2022 21:40

Paedophiles can be very manipulative, don't give him another minute of your time and steer we'll clear.

catfunk · 06/03/2022 21:40

*well

Favourflavour20 · 06/03/2022 22:07

@Movingonup22

I try to see everyone in shades of grey and at least at the time felt like people can make genuine mistakes and turn a page.
I guess I never questioned my own feelings at all (I always focused on his instead in nearly every situation) and focused more on his and his cousins feelings in this situation. He said his cousin can’t even remember it happening. Although they haven’t spoken or seen each other since it happened, only very rare contact through his sister

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Favourflavour20 · 06/03/2022 22:12

It took me a good few months and some extremely lovey friends and family to get my self esteem and happiness back on track which it is now thanks to them! Grin
Yeah my mum and friends have said there’s something mentally not right with him and you guys seem to say the same, I’m so glad I’m off the rollercoaster, the longer I was on the worst the crash was going to be.
Again I dont want to poopoo age gap relationships, I think they work for a lot of people and healthy people just stumble across someone they like at different times. But I do find it weird he ONLY dates younger impressionable people, I feel it’s like to tip the power balance in the relationship but I also genuinely believe he does this subconsciously without even realising, it’s just ‘how’ he likes his relationships to be

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titchy · 06/03/2022 22:18

But I do find it weird he ONLY dates younger impressionable people,

It's not weird - it's what abusive paedophiles do. It's not what normal people do. Seriously - get some boundaries AND DO NOT DATE UNTIL YOU ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO ENFORCE THEM. At some point you will have children and they will be at risk if you ignore your issues.

Favourflavour20 · 06/03/2022 23:13

@titchy

Oh this relationship was an extremely big learning curve for me, it was my second proper relationship, and I tend to intuitively sense peoples needs and wants and respect/serve those, but I always thought people would do that back to me which I’ve come to realise isn’t always a thing people do.
I need to verbalise my boundaries and then stick to them without any faltering now, no more bs because I know how toxic it can be now thankfully!

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Movingonup22 · 07/03/2022 00:31

You think sexually abusing a 5 year old can be a “genuine mistake” that there is a grey area about?

This has to be a troll.

Weatherwax13 · 07/03/2022 00:39

He's a fucking paedophile. Nothing else you've said matters once you know that. Why the hell are your priorities so upside down?

Favourflavour20 · 07/03/2022 01:09

@Weatherwax13

Why do people go back to bad men? Thankfully I didn’t carry on going down the rabbit hole like other people do sadly.

@Movingonup22

I guess I saw his charismatic and warm personality which he initially had with myself as others as him having redeemed himself and he had become good and I genuinely want to always see the best in people. Obviously that was just a mask and in hindsight I guess that viewpoint is naively optimistic

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Movingonup22 · 07/03/2022 07:31

You seem to think that you are being wonderful and it reflects well on you that you want to think the best of a paedophile.

You’ve even mentioned that you think the cousin can’t even remember it so hey what’s the problem.

It really really doesn’t reflect well on you as a person. It reflects VERY VERY badly on you as a person.

Movingonup22 · 07/03/2022 07:32

I’ve just read your last post again - you think if someone has a charasmatic personality that redeems them from having sexually abused a child??? You are not naive - you don’t care about the victims of child sex abuse.

RantyAunty · 07/03/2022 07:36

Therapy.
Definitely get some therapy.

Does the circle of friends know he's a predator and paedophile?

Hidingin · 07/03/2022 07:43

He sexually assaulted a 5 year old
And you’re saying ‘he’s never seen her since but he says she can’t remember it’ ..so that’s fine then Hmm

He sexually assaulted a 5 year old and you’re saying
..probably an accident or a mistake? I like to see the best in people

He sexually assaulted a 5 year old and you’re saying
My main question is, is he just a bit impulsive?

He sexually assaulted a 5 year old and you said
He’s charismatic now though, so I figured he’d redeemed himself

You have said you felt abused and coerced into sexual acts.
You need therapy.

GreyCarpet · 07/03/2022 07:44

Develop some boundaries and stop 'genuinely' wanting to see the best in people.

There were red flags around this man from the start and you ignored every single one of them.

knittingaddict · 07/03/2022 07:53

@Movingonup22

You seem to think that you are being wonderful and it reflects well on you that you want to think the best of a paedophile.

You’ve even mentioned that you think the cousin can’t even remember it so hey what’s the problem.

It really really doesn’t reflect well on you as a person. It reflects VERY VERY badly on you as a person.

Yes, this.

Op you're trying so desperately to be fair to a paedophile that I'm wondering why your here. It's an odd reaction, no matter how "charismatic" the person is. Very odd posts.

knittingaddict · 07/03/2022 07:54

You're here not your.

MargotEmin · 07/03/2022 08:05

I try to see everyone in shades of grey and at least at the time felt like people can make genuine mistakes and turn a page.

This would be a sensible approach of he'd been prosecuted for shoplifting or had a drunken fight with a friend when he was young - it isn't normal or healthy to apply the same generous understanding to sex offenders.

Stop being so nice.

Hopingforabagofbuttons · 07/03/2022 08:19

This is a person who sexually abused a 5 year old child. Yet you write loads about how wonderful and charismatic he was. I can’t even begin to fathom what’s going on inside your head.
You mention he stopped having sex with you because you knew about his past, maybe you just weren’t doing it for him anymore because you were over his preferred age range . I don’t know how you could even want to have sex with this bloke, He was 14, def old enough to understand what he was doing was wrong , and equally disgusting that he even had those feelings towards a child in the first place
Work on you, your boundaries and self esteem, and stop lamenting the loss of someone who isn’t worth a backwards glance

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