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Pulltheotherwallop · 04/03/2022 14:23

I work in a corporate job where I manage a team of 20 young people who are mostly female. They are aged from 21-29 (I am 43.) I report into two very senior men who are 50ish and constantly working away. We are all part of the same team, but the day to day management of the team of 20 is left up to me.

The team have had many problems relating to covid, lockdown and mental health. It’s been very hard to keep them working as a team while we were all away and hard to get them back in the office. I have certainly put in a disproportionate amount of hours offering emotional support, using whatever clout I have to persuade the company to offer them help. 3 of them have very active eating disorders which they have confided in me about and the others are frequently feeling insecure about their jobs and the approval of the senior managers (for which I act as an intermediary and giving them credit where it’s due.) as probably expected I have been nicknamed the mother hen/ mummy of the team who takes care of everyone. One of the things they all requested was that we have the budget to do more social events as a team and to “let off steam” as it is an intense job. So I have arranged and paid for (out of my budget) a series of events to keep team morale up. This is on top of my actual job which is needing to be commercial and make a certain amount of money for the company, keep bosses happy, plus my home life with DC.

Last week was one of the socials I arranged. There have been several like this already and they always go the same way. The senior managers made sure they came because I insisted it was important for team morale. I walked into the venue about 15mins after it started, and most of my team completely blanked me except my bosses. There was no room at the table so I had to stand awkwardly while the waiters got me another chair from a different room and then was placed at the end. I tried to be part of conversations but I constantly got cut out. Even when I was in conversations I was being “talked across” with no eye contact. I tried to engage a few times and got drowned out.

As everybody got more drunk it became even more impossible. I looked across and one of the three (with a severe eating disorder) was sitting on one of the senior managers’ laps and sipping from his drink. I went to the loo and there were a group of them in there in front of the mirrors who fell silent when I came in and started giving each other looks. I ended up leaving early and no one noticed.

The next morning the one on the lap of my boss appeared at my door in tears. She had got too drunk and she had tried to kiss him and he had rebuffed her and now he was being “off” with her in the office and she was feeling insecure and it was triggering her again etc.

I felt quite pissed off and started giving her (and the others) less time, but that made things worse and they became more “triggered” that their mother figure / mentor / whatever they are calling me was now unavailable.

I resent being in this position. When I was coming up the career ladder I believe that I acknowledged those who helped me and was inclusive and worked hard. I am at a loss that everything I have done has fallen on deaf ears.

I went to visit my senior manager and told him about the conversation I had, had. His ego had obviously been stroked, and he told me to just leave it, it’s fine, it’ll calm down, don’t make a big deal and she’s quite a good employee anyway, she had told him about some of her work and he didn’t realise she had done that project (a lie!)

I’ve been playing around with what I will say and to who. What would you suggest as the best way forward and the best way to frame these conversations. I hate being cold with people I have nurtured but I do not think they are showing the same loyalty to me. How would you address it?

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Pulltheotherwallop · 04/03/2022 17:38

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Anyfeckinusername · 04/03/2022 17:49

He is bound to say “just leave it” because it was inappropriate of him to have her sitting on his lap!

You sound so kind and thoughtful and they sound like children.

If you’ve a team of 20, get a schedule done up where one of them is responsible to organise the night out and not you. Go completely hands off. You’re definitely annoyed that you go to all this trouble and take in their mental load, and then they blank you! But that’s actually typical enough, you are the boss after all.

You need to look for ways to not carry this mental burden to this degree. You sound like a lovely boss by the way. But being overloaded yourself. Not impressed the senior men are doing so little, but they have you the perfect buffer so they don’t need to bother.

Everyone has an agenda that suits them and right now you are well suiting their agenda, but not your own.

Anyfeckinusername · 04/03/2022 17:50

Actually it’s crazy that level of inappropriateness is going on in work. Is there a HR policy to lean on?

sunlovingcriminal · 04/03/2022 17:57

This sounds like a really rough position to be in.

  • they shouldn't have excluded you when you came to the table. That is a clear indication in itself that you should step back from the pastoral work that you are doing.
  • does your work have anything in place to assist those who are really struggling- like an employee assistance programme. Honestly, I think you have given enough time to those who are struggling.
  • you need the senior leadership chaps fo realise the level of support your team needs, and agree ways that this can be managed (not by you).
  • the whole lap sitting thing sits really badly with me. This should be reported to hr if you have that department?
  • the job market is buoyant (at least in my sector) right now. Is it time to start hunting around for a new role yourself as an obvious way to extricate yourself from this?
ReadyforTakeOff · 04/03/2022 18:01

Agree with what has been said. I like you lead large teams and unfortunately there are some people who are in the wrong job and won't cope.

You need to lead them rather than mother them. Set standards and expect them to deliver. Tell your seniors what your approach will be and unfortunately it sounds like you may lose some staff.

Be careful who you hire and ensure they are in the right job. And delegate. A lot.

Speak to HR (if they are any good) and don't take the pressures on yourself.

From what you have said I fear you are too nice! What industry is this by the way?

Crazykatie · 04/03/2022 18:05

Being middle management can be a bitch, neither one of the workers nor one of the bosses and you get all the stress. I’ve never aspired to management, most of the problems end up in your court wether it’s your fault or not.

ReadyforTakeOff · 04/03/2022 18:09

@Crazykatie

Being middle management can be a bitch, neither one of the workers nor one of the bosses and you get all the stress. I’ve never aspired to management, most of the problems end up in your court wether it’s your fault or not.
Maybe but you need to manage it - manage your manager to manage you... :)

It can work but you need the right approach and mindset IMO.

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