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Refused drugs test

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starynight63 · 27/02/2022 08:40

I've posted a few times about my ex, little background is last year he walked out on me and DC (youngest was 6months) anyway shortly after found out he'd been having an affair. He had a breakdown stopped affair opened up about his mental health being worse than I knew was suicidal, drinking lots (still is and has acknowledged he's an alcoholic) but a functioning one. Anyway we've been living separate but spending time together seeing if we can progress things but he's not been sorting himself out & is still drinking excessively & smoking. In October last year he went out with friends and was up all night and I had a feeling he's been taking drugs, I asked him he denied multiple times so I got a drugs test and then he admitted he'd done a small amount of cocaine and failed the drugs test. On Friday night he went out again and with same friends and I had a gut feeling he may of done it again, he denied but I'd already Amazon primed a test. Que last night, he'd asked to come over for a takeaway. When he was here I asked him again if he'd taken any drugs, he said no so I asked him if he'd do a test as I didn't trust him after last time and needed to see for DCs sake if he was safe to look after them. He immediately said no & got his back up said he'd thought about it during the day because he thought I may ask that and decided he wouldn't do one again as he didn't want to live his life like that and I was only doing it for myself so I had something to throw at him in an argument if he had done it???? Anyway he got very defensive I explained why I wanted him to and why I didn't trust him, and how I don't allow him to look after the kids alone still because of this reason yet surely doing a test would build trust back up if he knows he would pass. I said that if we were separated fully he may have to do drugs tests randomly as I would push for that as I don't trust him to be around DC alone due to his current/past choices and he looked at me and said 'you are a bitch aren't you' and he had threatened to leave a few times during the conversation too, he knows I would normally not want him to leave.
Anyway I stood strong and said that if he wasn't going to do a test then he was to leave and wouldn't be seeing DC for 5 days as that's how long it can take for cocaine to leave his system. I asked for house key back (we jointly own house but don't want him coming and going)

Question...... am I wrong? Over reacting? Keeping DC safe? Opinions please I need a hand hold this morning because he makes out that I'm just the bad guy trying to stop him seeing kids.

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30mph · 27/02/2022 08:49

No, you're not over reacting. Well done.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/02/2022 08:54

Do not allow this individual keep on trying to manipulate and otherwise mess with your head like he has and continues to do. Such men can and do wreak already weakened boundaries further.

If he really does want to see his children he can make the effort then to see them in a contact centre. Protect yourself and your children here at all costs from your drunken and drug addicted ex; you should all be staying well away from him.

layladomino · 27/02/2022 08:57

You are protecting your children, and that comes above the feelings and opinions of this man.

He's provide he can't be trusted. He lies to you, repeatedly. Drugs are more important to him that his family.

He's shown he doesn't intend to change.

For your sake too - you should be staying well away from him. He isn't ever going to be a good partner to you.

PussInBin20 · 27/02/2022 08:57

So he drinks, smokes, has affairs, takes drugs - why are you bothering with this loser?

Just bin him - problem solved!

Inthesameboatatmo · 27/02/2022 08:58

Don't bother with him. He is not your responsibility and it's up to him to facilitate a relationship with his children if he so wishes. Step back and cut contact other than about dc.

SeeMyLanyardAndWeepBitch · 27/02/2022 08:58

In October last year he went out with friends and was up all night and I had a feeling he's been taking drugs

What made you suspect that? Was it because you know he's done coke or other drugs in the past? If so, then given you were right about that particular occasion and he's been evasive and defensive about this time, then I think it's almost certain that he's still doing coke, probably every time he goes out for a drink. Unfortunately it seems to be endemic these days and considered a harmless bit of fun by many, in the same way that having a couple of drinks is.

Clearly your ex is the type to let things get to the addiction stage so I think your gut reaction has been 100% correct.

starynight63 · 27/02/2022 09:09

@SeeMyLanyardAndWeepBitch

In October last year he went out with friends and was up all night and I had a feeling he's been taking drugs

What made you suspect that? Was it because you know he's done coke or other drugs in the past? If so, then given you were right about that particular occasion and he's been evasive and defensive about this time, then I think it's almost certain that he's still doing coke, probably every time he goes out for a drink. Unfortunately it seems to be endemic these days and considered a harmless bit of fun by many, in the same way that having a couple of drinks is.

Clearly your ex is the type to let things get to the addiction stage so I think your gut reaction has been 100% correct.

I only ever know about 1 other time in our relationship- he used to do it when younger but we've been together 7 years and he wasn't like this for the majority of our relationship which is why we had kids etc and I find it hard to leave fully :( but I think I've seen the light after starting therapy myself recently.

His 'friends' do it, and he'd stayed up most of the night while drinking too yet he would normally be too tired and fall asleep early.. being able to stay up so long is really out of character for him. Same thing this week, and Saturday he literally slept until 4pm :/ now what father does that unless they are nursing a very bad hangover/comedown?
Thanks for you're reassurance :)

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starynight63 · 27/02/2022 09:11

@layladomino

You are protecting your children, and that comes above the feelings and opinions of this man.

He's provide he can't be trusted. He lies to you, repeatedly. Drugs are more important to him that his family.

He's shown he doesn't intend to change.

For your sake too - you should be staying well away from him. He isn't ever going to be a good partner to you.

Thank you! I know in my heart I'm protecting my DC but I didn't know if really it could come across like I'm just trying to point score etc as he said.. although it's no benefit to me to ask for a drugs test.

Thank you I'm going to keep strong and try stick to my guns. I worry for my DC but as long as I keep going how I am I'll keep them safe.

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Redlorryyellowduck · 27/02/2022 09:28

Oh love, you really need a reality check. It's absolutely fucki g berserk to be drug testing your partner, you're not a prison officer.
Hes treated you like shit, what the hell are you hoping to get from this?

AFitOfTheVapours · 27/02/2022 09:47

No you are absolutely not overreacting! You are contemplating seeing if you can get back together with an alcoholic who is also abusing drugs. If anything you are under reacting.

Trying to manage the problem with drug testing is going to drive you crazy. I totally understand how the suspicions and lies mess with your head so that you want something reliable to cling to, but this isn’t doing you any favours. You have to start assuming that he is always under the influence and isn’t capable of looking after his children. That’s your default. HE has the problem here and it is up to HIM to prove (over a long period and with a lot of openness) that he is managing it. Unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen.
For yours and your kids’ sanity, you need to drop this. Consider going to Alanon meetings or counselling where you can learn to detach from his chaos.
Good luck!

Itstimetoquit · 09/03/2022 19:16

How are you op x

Xpologog · 09/03/2022 20:27

YANBU 100%. You have to be the person to protect your children. He sounds selfish and immature, and you cannot risk the well-being of your children.

starynight63 · 13/03/2022 10:00

@Itstimetoquit

How are you op x
Thanks for checking in. So we've completely called things off, the drugs, drinking, selfishness is just too much and he simply isn't the person I had a family with anymore which breaks my heart. I've been being strong for DDs but I'm struggling with the thought of us being alone, I know it will get better and I'll look back one day wondering why I let him treat me like this so long but getting to that point seems so far away. My girls are always my priority and I'll make sure they're safe!
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