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Emotionally abusive Dad damaging his son

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DanHawkes · 24/02/2022 22:30

I'm after some advice really.

The back story is this. I met my partner who has 2 boys aged 9 and 14 4 years ago. I have a son who is 7. My partner left her boys father within a year of the youngest being born. He was incredibly controlling and ground her down. He was a policeman and it's quite a common trait apparently. He has tried to destroy her. She had a total breakdown whilst with him and he turned his back on her and tried to get her sectioned and the kids away from her. But she got her life together, got a small house and moved on. He also moved on and married someone. The court ordered 50/50 custody based around his working shift pattern in the police, which meant the pattern was very haphazard which meant the boys were never in to a settled pattern. When the boys were in his care they weren't allowed to mention their Mum and certainly never allowed to miss her. He would go through their phones and ipads to ensure if there was any contact with Mum whilst they were with him, he could monitor the messages. This continued until the eldest boy became of an age whereby he can make his own decisions. He now only goes to his Dads sporadically which his Dad is convinced is because is Mum has brainwashed him and not because of his actions.

Now, the youngest (9 year old) is in a very difficult position and has been for over a year now. He wants to live with us predominently and see his Dad less frequently. This is not about getting at another father - far from it. However Dad does not have the best interest of the son at the forefront of his mind. It's all about not letting the ex win. So he feeds him junk food which is causing weight gain. He tells him he shouldn't miss his Mum. He (the son) is struggling with some behavioural issues linked with mental health issues. This has been recognised by professionals and he is getting help for the behaviour, separation anxiety and general anxiety. Dad says there's nothing wrong because his son doesn't display these behaviours in front of him. This is because he puts on a show because he is scared of his Dad. We have now told Dad that his son is seeing a psychologist, the school mental health nurse and a CAMS specialist to try and get him 'fixed' and the help that he needs. Because Dad doesn't believe in mental health or that his son has any problems and is now trying to prevent any of this from happening despite the professionals promoting these treatments. We didn't inform him of the treatments that we had managed to secure for this very reason until now.
As an example of how controlling Dad is, the boy has recently joined a football team. When in his Dads care, he still wanted myself and Mum to come and watch him train. We did this and kept a respectful distance and only waved when the boy waved at us. Later that day a message followed from Dad saying that if we go again in his time, he'll pull the boy from the team and take him elsewhere. This is about getting at his Mum and using the boy as a weapon. His son wants both parents to watch him at his new venture...nothing more. The Dad is an emotionless robot, in my opinion. He only looks to serve himself and not the kids.

My question is, can the boy be withdrawn from the 50/50 court order on the basis that it is the boys mental health best interests not to go there. If this can be done, how would one go about it without using costly solicitors? If further info is required, please let me know and I'll elaborate.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 24/02/2022 22:34

Given he is trying to prevent the dc accessing medical help I would be seeking court intervention.. At 9 his wishes and feelings will most definitely be listened to
At 12 my ds went nc with my exh for similar mental abuse. We had a court order and I never heard a thing. Not even a text off exh!!

DanHawkes · 25/02/2022 09:32

Thank you for your reply. The other issue here is that we can give all the intervention and balance whilst the boy is with us, but he is only here 50% of the time. For all the positive things that we can do here, it gets undone whilst he is in his Dads care. We're looking into the prospect of getting legal intervention with the evidence that being with his Dad is not in the boys best interest and the fact that he doesn't want to go there. It is such a difficult situation.

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GreyCarpet · 25/02/2022 11:15

This is so sad to read.

I'm sorry he's not being adult enough to prioritise his child.

I agree that legal advice is about the best you can do here in the first instance.

Londondreams1 · 25/02/2022 11:30

You sound very supportive and everything you say rings true, so no advice but agree with others about seeing a lawyer. I just hope you’re able to get this sorted out.

DanHawkes · 27/02/2022 09:27

This whole situation is ever changing and more and more things are coming to light making it apparent something needs to be done now. The boy stopped in at ours yesterday to pick up his older brother to go and watch a football match with their Dad. The boy looked like a shell of himself. He looked so tired. His hair hadn't been done. You could tell he wanted to stay with us (his Mum).

Last night myself, partner (boy's Mum) and her eldest were having a chilled night at ours and we were talking about the situation. The eldest - aged 14 broke down in tears. This is extremely unusual for him as he is extremely level headed. He says he mainly goes to his Dads for his brothers benefit so he isn't so alone. But when he doesn't go, he feels guilty. He can also see the cha ges in his younger brother. He also knows the cause of it because he went through the exact same. He can now make his own choices and has broken free of the situation. But now he is torn between his own happiness when he doesn't go to his Dads and a guilt of not being there when his brother is there.
As it transpires, the Dad just makes everyone feel on edge and boys can't relax and be themselves at his house. He is unbending in his views and solely blames Mum for how the boys are.
This situation is worsening steadily and we need to find the solution and who to speak to to find it. Sadly, financially we are not in a position to engage solicitors- we spent £15k fighting him previously with a barrister.

Any advice, help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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Pinkbonbon · 27/02/2022 11:46

We you already have text evidence of him threatening to pull the boy from the team if you show up agai . And I'm guessing other threats?

I'd speak to the police (101?) see what they suggest. Tell them about your 14 year old breaking down in tears too. If there is abuse happening its a police matter.

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