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How to deal with nightmare MIL

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Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 14:45

I really need some tips on how to deal with my MIL, she’s visiting today and honestly my patience with her is so thin the thought of her visiting makes me tense.

Just so y’all don’t think I’m one of those mean DIL this is why.

I’m a white Muslim dh is south Asian. We met fell in love and wanted to marry. The diatribe I’ve had from her about this in the beginning was unreal I’ve been called a kafir (disbeliever) because I’m white, told I have no family values and that I’m a gold digger. I continued to make an effort and put all this down to ignorance, she’d basically be hot and cold, one day nice and the next she’d refuse to engage with me and let her in her. By making an effort I mean taking her on days out, treating her to lunch, cooking dinner for her etc. I felt it was thrown back in my face and it did hurt my feelings. It came to a head over 2 things, a family wedding (split strictly men women) and none do the women would let me sit down for food, including her, I’d approach a chair and they’d put their bag there or say this seat is taken etc. It was very mean girls ‘you can’t sit with us’ and then secondly when dh and I had plans with my parents and she didn’t like it so pretended to her extended family she was dying and got them all to call us and basically give us a telling off for leaving her alone. From then I could take no more and went NC. There is more she had a temper tantrum when we bought our house because it was too far from her (20’mins).

I swept this all under the rug and went clean slate when dc was born. She wanted to babysit dc when we wfh, wanted to actually begged. She’d come to our house to do it. Behind our backs she’s been making nasty comments about our house, of course it got back to me but the big issue for me was she was basically neglecting dd. DD is a v warm little girl and loves everyone but she actively hates MIL, she sees her and will burst into tears. V strange. At first we thought it was the language barrier but she’s met other people who speak no English and is fine with them. By contrast when she sees MIL even via face time she bursts into tears and cries no no no. Often MIL would leave her in a soiled nappy (a few times we’d give the benefit of the doubt as we’ve all missed one here and there ), would sit in doors all day, no Interaction with dd I’d come down and she’d just be watching her tv shows (mil) and dd would be playing alone, wouldn’t open windows when it’s hot, wouldn’t fill up her drink, I was working through lunch once and then heard an argument and MIL behind dh back when he popped to the loo forcefed dd spicy food and it triggered a huge food aversion (didn’t even apolgise, just said well she needs to know she’s Asian not white). When dd was learning to walk heard her scream and was on the floor crying when we came down, MIL refused to say what happened, managed to get it out of her she slipped and hit her head she wouldn’t say what surface she fell onto (tile big problem for under / carpet not so much) . Dd was also so unhappy, crying and crying banging on doors trying to get away , had to battle with dh to cut the babysitting he kept on giving her the benefit of the doubt but to put a child in danger is unacceptable. I just can’t get passed it.

When ds was born she also had another tantrum because we didn’t let her name him and gave him a disgusting English name (according to her).

Honestly I’m not keen for more contact with dcs but dh still wants some only supervised contact. But I’m still quite angry. She’s done a few other bits too, like ruin DDs bday day out on asking to come, making us pay and then moaning and wanting to go home after an hour.

For context she doesn’t work, dh has paid for her since he was 17 years old. Chauffeured her around. What she wanted was me to move into her house and give up work and then buy a bigger house in the same area for us all to live in.

I guess what I’m asking for is how would you manage this, im happy to hear if im being pfb which is what she said I was but I don’t think I am

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Shmithecat2 · 20/02/2022 14:49

You're not being PFB, she' sound dreadful. I'd go nc again - including the kids - and your dh should be supporting you on that.

Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 14:52

@Shmithecat2

You're not being PFB, she' sound dreadful. I'd go nc again - including the kids - and your dh should be supporting you on that.
She’s permanently damaged their relationship, he used to do a lot for her, call her everyday. This now the once a month supervised contact is his sort of last chance saloon
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Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 14:58

I’m going to post in aibu for traffic as she’s expected in the next 10 mins

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givethatbabyaname · 20/02/2022 15:03

You are who you are, and you don’t owe it to her to change yourself for her.

Be yourself and stick with it. Don’t be rude, just do your thing in your house with your children. Override your DH if you have to. It’s your home, your children. He can deal with his mum in her house.

Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:06

Thank you @givethatbabyaname!

She just walked in now and I’m feeding baby upstairs and I’m hearing dd (2.5) shout and cry no no no no, this surely isn’t a normal reaction from a child. She’s so loving with every one else.

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SylvanianFrenemies · 20/02/2022 15:07

Yanbu

Dolphinnoises · 20/02/2022 15:08

You know what you need to do. You need to put your daughter first.

Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:12

@Dolphinnoises

You know what you need to do. You need to put your daughter first.
Oh god she’ll never be alone with her again, not over my dead body but I can’t get over DDs reactions to her. She’s calmed down now but I don’t understand it, it’s so extreme and she’s over. Stranger anxiety age and isn’t like it with anyone else at all!
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FelicityPike · 20/02/2022 15:15

@Dolphinnoises

You know what you need to do. You need to put your daughter first.
Absolutely this. This is torturing that poor wee girl. She in no way deserves to feel like this in her own home, her safe space. It’s downright cruel.
Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:54

You’re right! Next months supervised contact needs to be a soft play so dd can play freely

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Migrainesbythedozen · 20/02/2022 16:12

@Bluffysummers

You’re right! Next months supervised contact needs to be a soft play so dd can play freely
No! It needs to be CANCELLED PERMANENTLY!!
Italiangreyhound · 20/02/2022 16:55

I'm so sorry this is awful for your poor dd and you.

serene12 · 20/02/2022 16:57

Your daughter’s welfare is paramount, she doesn’t have the language yet to tell you that she is scared of her gran, her behaviour is telling you.
Please do not consider supervised contact, it will retraumatise your daughter every time she sees her gran. Grandparents do not have any rights re. contact with grandchildren, except in exceptional circumstances.
I work in child protection and regularly have to make decisions re. child contact.

Bluffysummers · 21/02/2022 10:25

Sorry margarine but I think you’ve gone off on one here

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triballeader · 21/02/2022 13:14

Assuming you belong to a

triballeader · 21/02/2022 16:21

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Assuming you belong to a reputable mosque could you talk with the nominated safequarding lead about this situation with your MiL? The needs of your little girl have to come first and foremost before the wants fo the adults in her life. Children are a precious gift and have a need to be protected from harm, that includes the adults in their lives who may be causing them harm.

Some of what you have shared is of concern. It goes way beyond this being a dislike of your DD for being your daughter. You have a MIL ignoring your childs basic needs when there is not another responsible adult present. The forciable feeding of a small child and ignoring and dismissing a head injury- that would be an absolute deal breaker for me. I would not leave a child with such a person.

Bluffysummers · 21/02/2022 17:00

The mosque his family attend doesn’t even have a womens sections, that’s the level of establishment.

Tbh I’ve never heard of a safe guarding lead in any mosque. Regardless there’s no real point for several reasons, primary one being after lunch and dd falling, both gems happened on the same day, she was told to leave and she’s it seen dd since. Dh wants them to have v minimal contact supervised hr once a month, ideally outside of the home (definitely outside of our house). But also apparently (discovered this from the other thread) that it’s a cultural thing that grandparents wouldn’t change nappies and stuff like that, no idea what they think baby sitting is but point is ‘it’s normal’ (wrong obviously!) but normal so there’s nothing to challenge, her falling obviously she’ll lie, Islamically it’s considered ok to Spank kids (really in regards to praying but obviously can be argued in the wider sense) so nothing to pull her up then either. I’ve heard of these mosques and mediation services excusing domestic violence and sexual violence in the form of marital rape, in the case of being a shit baby sitter, i can’t see them doing anything

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triballeader · 21/02/2022 18:07

The Childrens Act 2004 applies to all places of worship.
It might be worth checking if the wider branch of Islam that your immeadiate family follows has a safeguarding policy in place.

Reputable ones will be aware of their duty of care for children and will have a policy and even guidelines in place to protect. A good policy will extend beyond children attending a mosque based activity as a child may tell a mosque volunteer or worker about something that has happened outside of the mosque. Good call on your husband for going for minimal contact to protect your little girl. Not everyone who thinks they should can be around small children.

I suspect your MiL may be following a very narrow cultral and personal take on what Islam should be rather than what Islam, when at its best, is.

Bluffysummers · 21/02/2022 18:40

@triballeader

The Childrens Act 2004 applies to all places of worship. It might be worth checking if the wider branch of Islam that your immeadiate family follows has a safeguarding policy in place.

Reputable ones will be aware of their duty of care for children and will have a policy and even guidelines in place to protect. A good policy will extend beyond children attending a mosque based activity as a child may tell a mosque volunteer or worker about something that has happened outside of the mosque. Good call on your husband for going for minimal contact to protect your little girl. Not everyone who thinks they should can be around small children.

I suspect your MiL may be following a very narrow cultral and personal take on what Islam should be rather than what Islam, when at its best, is.

I think she was just plain lazy and negligent! She’s incapable of looking after children. I’ve since been told she didn’t look after dh as a child she’d do manual work around the house and an Aunty and grandmother did the childcare. She’s clueless, of course all this was hidden from me and dh doesn’t remember his toddler years
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Bluffysummers · 21/02/2022 18:45

^ by that I mean I don’t think her motivation is a religious one for her neglecting DD. Maybe cultural? Maybe but even then I’m not sure

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