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Should I still marry him?

61 replies

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 06:34

Long story short: we had 5.5 years together and his mother was pushing him to pop the question to me to 'secure me.' Prior to the proposal, I had tried to talk about future plans on numerous occasions and he wouldn't have a bar of it. He always walled me out, so his proposal came as a surprise to say the least. I paused, cried, then said no very apologetically. Then, something strange happened where suddenly our lives were seemingly in danger (a man carrying a python came to interrupt us in the moment...threatened to drop the python on us). We were so confused and scared at the same time. The look in my partner's eyes was like he had just been brutally tortured and we had to endure a 2.5 hour drive back home. While we were in the car and as I tried processing everything that had just happened, I said yes to the marriage proposal. I thought about how he helped me through some dark years of my own and how he was showing to have made 'some' effort in keeping me.
Now.... This is the kicker. I feel like I was a impulsive and have gone back and forth with the decision since. He told me if we hadn't have been intimate, he probably would have not waited as long to propose (he said 2 years tops). That, coupled with being pushed by his mother into doing it made me think. He remembers small details about other girls but seems to not notice as much about me. Wedding planning went ahead, but only one of us was doing it all (me). After 2 months of being engaged, I asked him to make a small effort by selecting a location for engagement pics. I gave him 2 weeks. Nothing. I gave him an extra week. Again, nothing.
We get to a venue I chose but we both liked, and he was on his phone the entire time. I tried getting his attention, but he kept going straight back to his phone. As I looked around the room, all eyes (about 100 people) were on the venue's presenter... All except for him. It hit me. I excused myself, went outside and burst into tears in the carpark. My gut feeling was there all along. However, I feel I owe him so much for all the help he has given me. Meeting him really did turn my life around for the better, but now I feel burdened at how one-sided this relationship is. He apologetically said he doesn't respect me. Why? I'm the responsible one while he's 4 years older and would rather play games all day than spend quality time whilst avoiding any future talk. Is this the end? He's my first relationship.

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Guacamoleontoast · 08/02/2022 09:40

Please explain the python, I am very confused. Your phrase 'in the moment' is suggesting all sorts of things.

KarenTheGammonRemoaner · 08/02/2022 09:43

No you don't owe him. You don't owe anyone actually, perhaps your children.

You don't owe him YOU. You don't owe him your entire life. You don't owe him marriage.

Think about these doubts you have and imagine yourself married to this man in a year's time and you're sitting there still having these doubts but now to get away from him you don't just need to break up and walk away, you need to pay for and go through, probably organise, an entire divorce and your status will affect anything official you have to do.

You need to leave him now. You do not owe him anything. He chose to help you, you likely thanked him and have been in a relationship with him.... why do you think you owe him anything? Stop it. Stop it now.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/02/2022 09:46

Short version
He didn't propose because you had sex
His mother convinced him to
You said no
Something happened with a snake
You said yes
He isn't interested in sorting anything
You had an engagement party and he was disengaged
You no longer want to marry him

The last line is important. It's the one you need to act on.

Thewindwhispers · 08/02/2022 09:51

OP if he told you he doesn’t respect you, how can you consider building a life and family with him. He will make you so miserable, every day. Even now he’s upsetting you.

As for proposing because his mother told him to… That’s pathetic.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/02/2022 09:52

Your chances of a happy future are better with the python.

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:08

Yes, correct and correct. Thanks for your input.

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lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:09

Thank you, that's good advice.

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alisoninwonderland · 08/02/2022 10:14

I think you've done really well for listening to your gut instinct so well, OP! Flowers You definitely don't 'owe' him for how he has helped you in the past. Imagine it the other way around. If you helped a friend or partner because they were struggling, I'm sure you would just do it because you'd genuinely want to be helpful, just because you care about them and their happiness, yes? You wouldn't expect any kind of 'payment' back. That's the spirit in which your partner ought to have helped you in as well. If he makes you feel like you owe him for it, that's another red flag really.

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:18

The python part sounds crazy- I didn't go into too much detail because I didn't want it to dominate the post. By "in the moment" I meant "when it happened." It really did happen though and I'm still as baffled as the readers here. It's irrelevant, apart from the fact that we were scared witless

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lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:20

Thank you for your kind words. I am taking a lot of this advice on board from most replies. Just needed the nudge as I currently feel I don't have many to turn to for advice.

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MsMeNz · 08/02/2022 10:21

this is a divorce waiting to happen (but of course several years of an unhappy marriage first!) dont do it!

When I got enagged i had been DESPERATE for him to propose so excited!! i couldnt wait to get married to him! and even we have had issues been married so I'd hate to start on a not even sure before getting married, it wont get better, marriage brings it own issues!

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:23

Thank you for your well thought out reply. I appreciate it

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DropYourSword · 08/02/2022 10:24

There were some curveballs in the OP, but honestly there's no way I'd be marrying a man who told me he didn't respect me. No. Way! Regardless of anything else!

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:25

Thank you for your reply. This is what I am afraid of- that I'm ignoring the red flags and wanted to feel wanted. I feel silly for having such little respect for myself all along, but need to start somewhere. It's hard to find people who aren't biased so I came on here.

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Norwolf · 08/02/2022 10:26

He is a clown. Don’t marry for convenience. Do not marry him.

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:26

You broke that down well. Thank you for the insight

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Mischance · 08/02/2022 10:27

How do you expect everyone to answer|? I am sure you know in your heart of hearts that this relationship is going nowhere and that you would be setting yourself up for an unhappy life - why would you do that? Please don't do this.

lydialollies · 08/02/2022 10:27

Lol, yeah it sounds crazy I know.

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haismfh · 08/02/2022 10:39

WTF is the python all about?????

But as for the rest of it. Please don't marry him. Your gut reaction to his proposal was to say no, which you did when he first asked. You then went back on this and said you would marry him.
Always, always, trust your gut.

He is not interested in marrying you. He shows you no respect whatsoever. He doesn't care about you or your feelings. Couldn't be bothered to make an effort for engagement photos.
It's almost as if the entire relationship is just for show, for societal pressure or something.

You deserve way better than this. End it and start life afresh where you have the chance to meet someone who truly loves you.

Bellringer · 08/02/2022 10:40

Leave him, if he comes back make him beg. I hope you find someone better, you deserve it. Good luck

Kelly7889 · 08/02/2022 10:47

Of-course you shouldn't marry him OP - don't be ridiculous.
And if you believe in archetypes, the snake should have been a pretty bad omen.

ClawedButler · 08/02/2022 10:50

Yes, I think you'd be better off running away with the snake tbh.

Your first reaction was right.

If you have to talk yourself into marrying someone, and he has to be talked into it (by his mother!), it's a disaster waiting to happen.

This is your first relationship - as PP said, it's about learning and growing. In time you may meet a man who is as keen to marry you as you are to marry him - that's the best basis for marriage. Not this half-baked, half-arsed "is this how the grown-ups do it?" pastiche.

Ceramide · 08/02/2022 10:51

You can do so much better, OP. Ditch the disrespectful man (and his interfering mother). You don't need him. You deserve someone who loves you, respects you and is honest and considerate. Learn from this your first relationship and work on your own confidence. I hope you will find a kind and trustworthy man in the future.

Pr1mr0se · 08/02/2022 11:01

Walk away. Find someone else. Get some life experience with someone who respects, likes and loves you.

ChickenStripper · 08/02/2022 11:23

You accepted a marriage proposal because of a python? Anyway to answer your question - no, definitely not!