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Am I overreacting

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Spaiel · 04/02/2022 07:21

Am I overreacting?
my boyfriend and i have been together for nearly 4 years.However we were together before that for about 9 months. I broke up with him then because I found out he had intense feelings for another woman the whole time he was with me ( his school crush who he still had regular contact with , at the time we were 21 and 23 ).Shortly after we broke up he got into a relationship with the other woman but they broke up after a couple of months ending things on bad terms. About 2 months after they broke up we reconnected at our place of work and decided to take things slowly and have been together happily for the most part ever since.

However periodically I’ve had a horrible feeling that he was not quite over her despite him telling me he absolutely was, he has sometimes hidden his messages from her and looked her up on social media on a regular basis ( we shared a computer) even whilst we’ve been together talking in bed but sort of leaning away from me which just fuelled the horrible feeling.

Let me just make it clear that I’m on not jealous of him having contact with women or watching porn or anything like that , this horrible feeling stems from him leading me on when we were first together with only this one particular woman and my regret for not ending it sooner.

However for the last year nothing has happened to make me question what he has told me and I’ve been getting into a really good head space with it until yesterday I had a dream that ( typical I know) that he left me for her.So I did something I instantly regretted and looked in his notebook where he jots random thoughts down and found a piece of paper folded up tightly in the back of the book written 4 weeks ago detailing that if he was drunk he would fuck her and that he is still mesmerised by her appearance and basically went on about how he needs to move past his feelings for her but why can’t and that if he lost me because of this he would remember me till he died ( not that it would be his biggest regret ) and other sentiments to that effect.
Obviously I confronted him admitting that I went through his notebook and that even if he had the best explanation in the world I simply cannot deal with these feelings of mistrust anymore in the relationship but welcomed his explanation anyway.
He tried to explain that yes when we have spoken about his feelings for her in the past he was truthful in that he has no romantic feelings for her but omitted that he maybe has never moved on 100% but their breakup was never resolved. He said that he felt that if he had told me this during those talks that he felt I would have ended the relationship and that he knew it would have seriously hurt me . He explained that the reason he wrote that stuff down was because he was trying to mentally process what feelings he still has for her ( nostalgic, sexual or otherwise ) to try and move past them but stressed that he didn’t want her as girlfriend / SO because they were simply not compatible in that way. Also that everytime he did happen to think of her that he feels very guilty and that it has become a viscous cycle of negative reinforcement.
I countered that surely if I was everything he wanted in his future ( as he put it ) after 4 years he should not have fears about possibly ‘ losing control of yourself ‘ and possibly fucking your ex if you met them whilst drunk
We didn’t shout or get aggressive towards each other but obviously got very emotional
Personally I don’t know how to move forward from this

OP posts:
GreyCarpet · 04/02/2022 07:34

Tbh, I'd end it.

Whether he would have a relationship with her or not is largely immaterial. He has feelings for her that are getting in the way of your relationship and your happiness.

You don't need to be in a relationship and there is no point in being in one for the sake of it.

username1293948 · 04/02/2022 07:37

Why did you even get back with him the first time? You were basically the second option when his first choice didn’t work out… I couldn’t be with someone knowing they were fantasying about being with another woman. However 4 years is a long time so I know it’s not easy to just get up and walk away.

CamsPaisleyCuffs · 04/02/2022 07:50

End it, she will always be the spectre hanging around your relationship, I've been there and ended it. Was the best thing I ever did, though I was heartbroken at the time. That constant nagging feeling of being second best is terrible. She's got a hold over him (whether she knows it or not) and it's something he may never move on from, she's under his skin (or gives epic blow jobs). He actually wrote "If I was drunk I would fuck her". Jeesh, he's nowhere near getting over her.

Aquamarine1029 · 04/02/2022 07:55

There are three of you in this relationship, and that's never going to work.

Why did you even get back with him the first time? You were basically the second option when his first choice didn’t work out…

Sadly, this is true. You've wasted enough of your youth and your time, op. You need to end this.

GeneLovesJezebel · 04/02/2022 07:57

End it.
Do you really want to spend your life feeling this way, because you will.

Pinkdelight3 · 04/02/2022 09:24

Ugh, that line about if he lost you, he remember you till he died. What even is that?? Sounds like he's fairly chill and even resigned to losing you, but fancies himself having a wistful memory of you now and again, probably in some poetic setting. As well as his ongoing obsession with her, he's deeply self-obsessed too and it doesn't leave much room for you. You deserve better.

LittleKitten1 · 04/02/2022 09:53

I know people always say 'end it', 'move on to better things' and all that, and it seems drastic and you think you can save this relationship because some things about it are great... but in this situation, objectively, walk away. This will always be an issue. You are wasting your time staying with him and fretting about this.

Breaking up will hurt and it's never going to be easy, but this is not a happy situation to be in either. He said himself he is still mesmerised by her. Frankly he sounds obsessed and has you around as back up / plan B.
Do not feel rejected and try and do the pick me dance, clinging on to this relationship for dear life... it failing is not a reflection on you or your worth.
Life is short and you are young and have plenty of options out there so don't settle for this shite. If you're going to be miserable in the relationship, end it and be miserable getting over it until you're in a happier place and life is exciting and good again.

RantyAunty · 04/02/2022 10:18

I have to agree with PP. He is happy to waste years of your life.

What is it your really want from a relationship?

TheFoundation · 04/02/2022 11:28

Why do you stay with him? Do you not think you could find someone who would simply love you, without all this history of complications?

chaosrabbitland · 04/02/2022 11:34

id finsh it and move on , it sounds to me like you will always be second best to her and hes going to be pining and obsessed with her for the next however many years , i couldnt be doing with playing second fiddle to anyone , it is better to be alone , it really is .

your just wasting time staying with him and worrying all the time about what will happen next , like if shes single and wants to get back with him are you going to be dumped pronto whilst he runs off to her .
i wouldnt be sitting about waiting for that to happen personally

ravenmum · 04/02/2022 11:39

basically went on about how he needs to move past his feelings for her but why can’t and that if he lost me because of this
Do you mean that he was thinking about why he's weirdly obsessed with her, and realises that he should stop being so obsessed as it could jeopardise your relationship?

Sounds a bit like he's with you as he thinks it's somehow better for him? She's the "slutty" one, you're the "Madonna"? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

On the positive side, it seems he's willing to discuss it with you properly. But I'd be hugely put off by this weirdness.

IcicleIcicle · 04/02/2022 11:55

He has made you feel second best and personally I don't think you ever get over that. My first long term bf did this to me with his ex and it never goes away I'm afraid. You absolutely deserve to be your partners number one and I agree with Pinkdelight3, he's too self obsessed and caught up in his past and fantasies for that to ever be the case with this man. Know your worth OP, leave, because he's not good enough for you.

updownroundandround · 04/02/2022 14:22

His 'writings' basically say

''I've 'settled' with Spaiel, and I think I might feel guilty for the rest of my life if she dumped me because I couldn't keep it in my pants because I'm obsessed with someone else, but I'd 100% still shag my 'crush' in an instant if I ever got the opportunity............' Angry

So............he'd feel vaguely 'guilty' about losing you ? But he'd still jump into bed with his Ex if he ever got the chance ? Hmm

Who the fck does he think he is* ??

He may have 'settled' for 2nd best............but you don't have to !

You'll never be able to trust him.

You'll never be able to forget what he's written/said either.

You'll only damage yourself if you stay with this egotistical and selfish prick. Sad

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