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Dad not bonding

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Mamato2under2 · 25/01/2022 22:26

Hello!
I'm hoping for some relationship/newborn/new parent advice!

We had our 2nd daughter 6 weeks ago and since then my husband has been... less than helpful. He essentially ignores our new babys existence. But is really hands on with our first born - at least now he is as he did the same with her when she was born.
We spoke about it when DD1 was a few weeks old and he said he didn't like the newborn stage because they can't communicate. I gave up the fight with that as I was an exhausted new mum who had given birth for the first time a week before lockdown so his dramatics weren't welcome (sounds harsh I know!)
But the same is happening again. He won't bond with her, claims she only needs me etc.
Both girls have CMPA so while we figure out the best feeding plan for DD2 she gets a sore tummy or constipated and of course cries. But we seem to have the correct formula as she is so settled and content in the day
But this is where the issue lies. My husband has a middle ear deafness and is sensitive to noise, but can't hear very well. He had it diagnosed at a hearing test but hasnt done anything about fixing it or dealing with the issues. DD2 has been crying uncontrollably for basically her whole life from the moment my husband comes home until I take her to bed. He thinks the DF formula isn't working, I think she's over stimulated because it's so bloody loud. Despite having a chatterbox 2 year old the house is much quieter in the day. The TV volume is at 10, I don't like loud noise and speak softly so she is used to a quieter environment. But when he comes home the TV is up at 30, he talks really loud on the phone, his phone is non stop ringing and pinging so it gets too much for her. So she cries and cries and cries then shes sick. But he won't sooth her, that's up to me. As soon as I take her to bed where its dark, peaceful and quiet she stops almost instantly and sleeps well so I know its not the milk.

My question really is what on earth do I do?!
I cant take her to bed at 6pm when hes home because its not practical. she's so young she can't be left in the room alone either. Plus I still have my toddler to see to for bedtime. As much as I'd love to go to bed at 6pm it would just spark another argument that we don't spend time together.
But how can I put all this to him with causing upset because his deafness is a medical issue. Has he to watch the TV and not be able to hear it so the baby doesn't cry. Or would I be being reasonable to ask him to keep noise levels low even if that impairs him - which I know he wouldn't agree to seeing as he he doesnt appear to like the baby!

I appreciate this is very long and confusing but its really getting me down that he is causing her crying but getting annoyed at her crying! Were expected to understand his hearing issue but he won't entertain the idea that it affects us all.

OP posts:
PermanentTemporary · 25/01/2022 22:30

Could he try headphones? Would he listen to you that you're seeing a different baby during the day?

It does seem possible that the baby is crying because it's evening not because of noise though.

Mamato2under2 · 25/01/2022 22:34

He will wear headphones when he's working at the table which is fine but if he was to have to wear headphones to watch TV then it defeats the purpose of spending time together and I'd be as well to just go to bed. And using headphones just adds to the lack of bonding. He has very little interest in her as it is.

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FangsForTheMemory · 25/01/2022 22:55

Put the subtitles on. I'm deaf and use them all the time. You quickly get so used to reading them you don't realise you're doing it.

Rainbowpurple · 25/01/2022 23:15

Ask him to keep the noise down and step up as he has a newborn! He gets annoyed at newborn crying? Does he do any night wakings / feedings etc.? Are you honestly worried about offending him by telling him to be a father to his own child?

MMmomDD · 25/01/2022 23:38

There are two issues here that I see.
One is his hearing loss and that affecting the household level of noise. With small kids you can’t just blast the TV - as they nap or sleep at the time adults are up. So - whether it’s headphones or subtitles - you both need to find a way. And you may need to change your attitude and NOT leave the room if he is using headphones.
Conductive hearing loss is often permanent. So it’s likely there is nothing he can do about it. So you all need to find a way to adjust to it.

Second is bonding with the baby. It is actually very common for dads to bond with babies later than moms. In the early days many dads feel useless around the baby. And moms are the main person the baby seeks and needs. There is absolutely no reason to give him a hard time about it. Dads main job in the early days is to help mom. So - bonding aside, he needs to be helpful. If he isn’t - it’s fair to pull him up on that.

However, now that you have two kids - he is doing the right thing focusing on your first born. Her world changed and she ‘lost’ your full attention to the baby. Her dad being there for her is what she needs to feel comfortable.
Baby doesn’t know or care about dad yet.

He will bond with #2 just like he did with #1.

LightSpeeds · 25/01/2022 23:54

He essentially ignores our new babys existence.
There seems to be a lot going on here. You say he's not bonding, but I'm reading it as he's not bothering. From your post, it seems like you're doing everything and he's just making a lot of noise and watching TV or amusing himself with some other gadget.

He doesn't seem at all aware or bothered about whatever is going on with you and the baby...

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