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Should I end things

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nomoreroad · 24/01/2022 15:17

I have been thinking I need to break up with bf of 2+ years for some time now. I love him very much, he is my best friend and I really enjoy time with him. BUT his life seems completely stagnant, there's been no progression of our relationship, and it doesn't look like anything will change. I am 36, he is 35 and I have told him from the start I do want marriage, kids, house, before I am 38. He has always agreed and is happy to talk of a future as an abstract. However, he doesn't seem to have a concept of time and floats through life in a way I have never seen before.

As examples - he has always lived at home with his mum, but bought a flat 18 months ago and has still not moved in! Because he wanted to renovate it himself (but is doing the work VERY slowly), refuses to get professionals to help and keeps finding more and more excuses to drag on the work. It's not anywhere near complete. Even friends have offered to help speed it up, and he has refused. It's only a small 1 bed and no structural work involved.

His job - he is highly qualified and has been doing it for 7 years but at the lowest level. He took his promotion exams 5 years ago, did nothing with them, and there was one last chance to sit the promotion process last year before it expired. He has had support and encouragement from all his bosses for years to go for it, however he turned down lots of good projects that could have helped, and hardly did any prep, so failed the selection process. Now his exam has expired, and he's looking at 2 years minimum before he can try again. I just don't understand it - he scored so highly in the exams, did the senior role as a trial and enjoyed it/found it easy - yet made no effort to do the prep required. He says he just didn't want to get his hopes up... If he wasn't cut out for it I'd understand but his own bosses are feeling frustrated as they see it as a waste of his talent. And where we live is expensive so the additional money would come in really handy.

He is an objectively good looking man, yet takes no pride in his appearance. I never minded that he wore pretty much the same outfit every day (duplicates of the exact same thing) but he'd wear holes through them, big noticeable ones, it would get faded and shapeless and he'd still carry on wearing it! Even to work and date nights. Money is not an issue. Otherwise very clean and tidy, so this makes no sense to me. It would take a few mins to go online and just order something, but he won't bother.

He had a lot hobbies when younger but gave them all up to focus on work. Keeps talking of starting them again, but blames how busy work is. Yet cba to go for promotion as a reward for the sacrifices, so I am bemused about what his end goal in life is. It's like he just enjoys work for work sake, without any goal or objective behind it.

I have often asked him what he wants from life, what he'd like the next few years to look like. And he says he doesn't know. We have argued over the above topics many times. He'll tell me he understands and will change things, but nothing has changed in over 2 years. It's not COVID linked as this malaise existed before then as well. He won't ever talk to a therapist or take meds because he doesn't want his work finding out for some reason. I am now fed up of having to do all the thinking, planning, motivating, encouraging etc because it's making me feel like a parent. I have tried breaking up in the past but he promised he'd change - sort his life out, move out of home, figure out his career goals etc. But nothing changed.

Am I right in thinking something is not quite right with him, and he isn't now likely to change? And that the only way for me to move forward is break up?

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/01/2022 15:26

You may well love him but you're being strung along here.
You only need to give your own self permission to leave.

He's a dreamer/plodder and you sound more like a substitute parent to him than being in a relationship with him.

Littlegreenfrogcake · 24/01/2022 15:32

I married this and am now divorcing it. I took on a parent role and am now being called controlling and abusive ( I tried to end things when he'd been unemployed a year way before marriage and wouldn't take a job beneath him being one example).

I carry all the mental load still of our kids, the divorce, the house sale literally everything. I adore my kids, but if I could go back and have them with someone else I would 100% if you feel like this now with no additional responsibility with him, you will be miserable years into a future with him.

girlmom21 · 24/01/2022 15:37

He's never going to change. Even if you decided to have kids with him. You're going to end up with more and more stress while he still just plods along.

LeifSan · 24/01/2022 15:46

He sounds disengaged with life and like he prefers familiarity to going out of his comfort zone. Really, it’s up to him if he wants to live his life that way, but it’s also up to you if you don’t want to be partnered with someone who is so passive.

Can you imagine actually getting married and having kids? Sounds like he’d just about manage to turn up to a wedding if you organised it all and god only knows what he’d be like as a co-parent - probably incredibly passive with that too. Not a good bet to share your life with someone who lives like this, you’ll have to drag him through every major life event like a resistant teenager.

SomewhereOnlyIKnow · 24/01/2022 15:48

He is stringing you along because it’s easier.
Leave this loser.

nomoreroad · 24/01/2022 21:25

Thank you for the responses. You are all right, i think he doesn't really want the same things as me but won't tell me outright as he enjoys our arrangement- where I'm a second mother to him when he's away from his real mother. Breaking up is the way to go, feel really disappointed as he'd have these glimmers of being focused/wanting more from life but it never lasted more than a few days.

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SomewhereOnlyIKnow · 24/01/2022 21:28

Best not to waste any more time on this relationship if it’s not what you want.
Fresh start on a new adventure !

APineForestInWinter · 24/01/2022 21:31

Maybe you're in love with the idea of his potential. It sounds like you've spent long enough with him to know that his great ideas don't translate into action.
I will do the exams to become...
I will buy a doer-upper and fix it up
I will become a husband and father

Unfortunately he is who he is, so don't take it personally. He's not going to change at this age.

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 24/01/2022 21:34

I had one of those in my 20s. He was so, so lovely but it was so frustrating that nothing in his life progressed. It took me 6 months to finally make the break. I understand your reluctance. But I would have gone mad if I had stayed and missed out on so much stuff I went on to do.

Lemonweightloss · 24/01/2022 21:46

Yes, unfortunately, it sounds like the end is nigh. I don't think he sounds awful - he is who he is - doesn't bow to pressure, does it his way and is relatively stress free. But he's not the One. I don't think 2 years is too long so you will recover. It's better than marrying him then divorcing 10 years down the line.
Good luck !

TheFoundation · 24/01/2022 23:23

Am I right in thinking something is not quite right with him

No. He's just as he wants to be. The way you want him to be doesn't match with who he is, that's all.

Accept the incompatibility and move on. It doesn't have to be a zero sum game.

nomoreroad · 25/01/2022 09:29

He has never moved out of his mothers at 35 despite paying mortgage on his own flat, and has spent a lot of money on a part time post grad degree and professional qualifications but turns down all opportunities that it opens up. If he was indeed that passive surely he wouldn't bother buying a place or doing the additional qualifications at all? They've taken years to study for. He isn't at all well off to waste money like this either. And the walking around in torn clothes, he says it's so he won't get mugged (muggings are not at all common where we live). I ended up buying him clothes as I was horrified he wore it even to work. (Ridiculous, I know)

I would be concerned for his mental health as a friend but as a gf it's been too much to unpick, and not what I want to do. So I ended it last night. He said he was very sad as he loved me but felt he had dragged me into the heaviness and stagnation of his life. And he knew he had to figure out what he wanted from life, but accepted it wasn't fair to keep me hanging on while he did this. So nice and amicable, but I do wish he'd said as much a year ago instead of just agreeing to what I said I wanted. I think it's been a good lesson to avoid men in their mid 30s who've never left home!

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