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Depressedpartner

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summerin69 · 23/01/2022 17:57

Me and my partner had quite a tough Christmas then we both got Covid, so it's been miserable. But recently my partner has got very low. Last week, when they had a StandByYourMan segment on Loose Women showing the reality star who's dad had committed suicide, my partner started sobbing and told me he's been feeling depressed. He says it's not like he's in pain and just wants it to stop but just feels like there's no point to living at the moment, apart from me. He is cut off from every single member of his family and his children rarely contact him at all. He asks it "it's him" - if it's something he's done.

I don't know his family at all, but I have noticed with my partner that he has this habit of making people feel guilty for not thinking about his feelings, Like, whatever you give him is never enough - he's always pointing out things you didn't do or think about. This can be really exhausting and it also puts people off if they're made to feel guilty - so I think this has a lot to do with his children not being in contact much - but also has just added to his sense of isolation which has made him feel so low.

He also keeps saying how unhappy he is and how he would prefer to live alone right now (my kids are typically messy teenagers and it seems to rile him up a lot - he always seems to be finding things they've done wrong. He doesn't say anything to them but tells me instead - which is probably better than him moaning at them directly).

I honestly do listen to him and just let him talk but then get told I don't understand or don't get it which I am sure must be a lonely place for him. I've suggested that he get help with therapy but he refuses. He is very moody now, which is understandable, but he's started to cause arguments - he started moaning to me about my daughter leaving a light on all night and leaving the bathroom sink messy - I just told him - look, it seems you'd be happier living alone, and that it would be healthier that way so logically why don't we just make that happen. I do my bit to make my kids clean their rooms etc and they are good kids, just annoying sometimes. But he just keeps moaning and moaning. I know it's coming because he goes quiet and withdrawn for hours and then he starts.

I'm just tired of living with this all the time. I am generally a happy person and feel we all have a lot to be grateful for. Just having another day on earth is something to be grateful for and I can find a lot of joy in really simple things. Life is so short - it's not worth getting your knickers in a twist over a messy sink. I appreciate though that some people have different tolerance levels for this and of course, they are my kids, not his - so it's different.

I just don't understand why he wants to look for problems all the time. I think this is really contributing to his low mood.

I feel so callous because obviously he says he's depressed, but me suggesting he does what he says he wants to do and live by himself is me trying to find ways he can be happy but not sure what else to suggest. Then I worry that might actually harm himself.

How do I help him and still protect my own mental health and my children? Am I being heartless?

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StarsAreWishes · 23/01/2022 18:02

The thing is, depression is a mental illness and what you are seeing is symptoms of it. The symptoms are not the actual illness. He can’t just think himself better by deciding not to “look for problems all the time”.

Would he be prepared to discuss it with his doctor?

summerin69 · 23/01/2022 18:05

@starsarewishes - of course, depression is a mental illness but most of the time he thinks he's okay and he wouldn't say he was depressed. He won't see a doctor, no.

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Alcemeg · 23/01/2022 18:09

I have noticed with my partner that he has this habit of making people feel guilty for not thinking about his feelings, Like, whatever you give him is never enough - he's always pointing out things you didn't do or think about. This can be really exhausting.

My ex-DH was like this too, OP. And the moaning and moodiness. I worried constantly that he'd top himself if I left him. He didn't. Actually, 20 years on, he's as happy/miserable as he ever was.

It's easy to get really sucked into constant concern for someone like this.

If he has expressed the desire to live alone, I'd seize that opportunity with both hands! One of you might as well be happy.

KeepingAnOpenMind · 23/01/2022 18:13

Urgh. He sounds selfish and self absorbed.
I hope you can live apart.

summerin69 · 23/01/2022 18:14

@alcemeg - I do think if we lived apart he would feel happier actually and that the depression is situational i.e. once he was on his own he'd feel better. He just finds it hard with kids I think. Saying that I do also feel that he is someone who will never be really happy (glass half full etc - whereas I am happy if I have a glass!)

Thank you for your straightforward words. I am working hard at strengthening some personal boundaries this year - his moods have had me on eggshells most times and I know this is unhealthy. We're now not really talking this weekend which is surreal... but hopefully this will resolve soon. Covid has really dented our finances (we both work for ourselves) and so the chance of him moving somewhere else is slim at the moment but hopefully something will turn up.

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Alcemeg · 23/01/2022 18:27

@summerin69 I can't help noticing that you're talking about hisfeelings all the time, e.g. "I do think if we lived apart he would feel happier actually." You haven't said how you would feel about it!

That's what I meant really about the danger of getting sucked into constant concern for someone like this. You literally lose sight of your own feelings, because you're so busy trying to be attentive to theirs and anticipate their emotional needs.

You're not being heartless at all for wondering if things might work out better separately, especially as he has actually said that's what he wants! X

AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/01/2022 18:28

What are you getting out of this relationship now?

You and he need to be apart, what you’re describing here is abusive behaviour from him towards you. Some men do use depression as a reason when infact they are abusive. And he also knows precisely why his family cut him out.

GoodnightGrandma · 23/01/2022 18:31

If he won’t accept the problem and get the help he needs, he needs to leave.
I say that as the wife of someone who also refused help for a long time.
It’s not fair on anyone.

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