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52 replies

SkySmiler · 14/01/2022 11:19

I have been involved with SS for some time due to my dc behavioral problems, a new social worker has been assigned to submit a report and is insisting his father must see it - this man held me captive with a knife to my throat and beat me badly, he's not even got PR as not named on BC as wouldn't come to register dc birth with me.

He has severe anger issues and Im absolutely terrified of him, can SS do this? I have explained how scared I am of him but this social worker insists he has the right to know, no other social worker has said this, I'm terrified.

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Suzanne999 · 14/01/2022 18:33

If your interaction with them is voluntary then you can stop the procedure and tell them due to data protection they cannot disclose anything about you.
Sorry this has happened and I understand your fear from ex p.

pastypirate · 14/01/2022 18:37

Does the father have contact with the child/ren?

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 15/01/2022 10:27

@Suzanne999

If your interaction with them is voluntary then you can stop the procedure and tell them due to data protection they cannot disclose anything about you. Sorry this has happened and I understand your fear from ex p.
Data protection doesn't apply here as the information is about the child - in principle parents have the right to see any information held about the child with any third party info redacted. However childrens services can and do use discretion where to disclose information would pose a risk of harm to the child or other parent.
SkySmiler · 15/01/2022 11:49

DC does see father sporadically, no real relationship so to speak, no bond, DC never wants to go on visits

Yes will certainly be making a formal complaint about her, we haven't been assigned a aocial worker as yet, she is compiling an assessment

I do not want him to see some extremely sensitive medical information and also something from over 12 years ago that will in no way benefit anyone from knowing

Thats just it - he's the father he has the right to know, why?? - particularly considering his extremely violent history

Son has had no trauma, never witnessed any DV as ended the relationship and then found out I was pregnant a few days later, have never entered another relationship as he kinda put me off men for life!

Yes diicrection is the key word here - I juat cannot understand why she is insisting on this, other dc father is not a worry, he didnt threaten to rape, torture and kill me, she has seen the police report with these words

I have requested information on the attack, but not even sure the pictures with the slash marks on my throat will dissuade her

Thank you all so much again for taking the time to reply to me, your support and advice has been invaluable - I'm going to compile my own report now

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pastypirate · 15/01/2022 15:25

If it's not child protection the assessment t us being done under section 17 of the children act 1989 - child in need. Simply withdraw your consent.

Tee20x · 15/01/2022 15:29

If he does not have PR and is not named on the BC he has no need to know anything. You need to complain about this SW. so angry on your behalf!!

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 15/01/2022 15:45

@Tee20x

If he does not have PR and is not named on the BC he has no need to know anything. You need to complain about this SW. so angry on your behalf!!
That's just not true, sorry. If a father is acknowledged by the mother and has a relationship with the child then they have as many rights as if they had PR in this respect.
Thelnebriati · 15/01/2022 16:22

As well as the police talk to Women's Aid, because the more official bodies you have on your side the better. They might appreciate knowing who this social worker is, or they may know of other similar cases she is involved with.

MysticPeg1 · 15/01/2022 16:49

I've just had a social workers report. The local authority involved my daughters domestically abusive father in they process however it was done via a third party so he has no knowledge of which local authority we are in. The social worker is not putting the report on their headed paper and any information that directly implicates our safety and exposes our whereabouts is being redacted. The report is being printed and posted to him rather than emailed and they allowed me to review the copy they sent him prior to issue to see if they'd missed any redaction of information
You need this same standard of protection.

Needsmorebeans · 15/01/2022 16:54

look up who is the Director of Children's Services and who is cabinet member for childrens services or social care and write to both of them explaining that this is a safeguarding issue

SkySmiler · 16/01/2022 13:16

I'm just worried that if I withdraw my consent they will escalate to CP plan as I'm not seen to be co-operating - although I approached them for help.

I simply cannot understand why she thinks his need to see the report trumps my safety, the DV waa very serious not just rows etc, and she knows this, I'm actually astounded at her cavalier attitude towards safeguarding.

He also has another dc that was taken into care at 12 years old as his mother couldn't cope with him, he could have chosen to take him in, but didnt, another demonstration of the fantastic father he is!

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Ijsbear · 16/01/2022 13:29

Have you actually spoken to this woman's line manager yourself? Because given this Social Worker's attitude so far, can you trust it when she says the line manager is in support?

Other than that a PP's suggestion of getting in contact with a solicitor at this point seems wise. It is insane that she wants you to contact the father who threatened you like that and left slash marks on your throat.

SkySmiler · 16/01/2022 13:34

No, I will try and speak to her tomorrow, I will also speak to the police again and then a solicitor.

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Iamabiggangster · 16/01/2022 14:42

Whoever just said that an acknowledged father has as many rights as a father with PR about this is incorrect. A father without PR has no automatic rights to know information, irrespective of he is ‘acknowledged’, and I say this as a CP social worker who has had legal advice on this many times

MysticPeg1 · 16/01/2022 14:45

@Iamabiggangster

Whoever just said that an acknowledged father has as many rights as a father with PR about this is incorrect. A father without PR has no automatic rights to know information, irrespective of he is ‘acknowledged’, and I say this as a CP social worker who has had legal advice on this many times
I thought that person was completely wrong also. I do wish people knew the facts before posting, it's not helpful to the op.
SkySmiler · 16/01/2022 15:37

I thought this too, he is not LEGALLY recognised as the father - so she has actually lied to me as she must know this to be true also

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SkySmiler · 17/01/2022 14:40

@Iamabiggangster thanks so much for clarifying that, is there somewhere I can obtain an official document stating this

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Santahasjoinedww · 17/01/2022 14:44

Beware of court terminology op. My exh wasn't dd's biological df but still took me 4 years of court hearings to get him out of their lives..
Has he ever played a role in her life at all?

SkySmiler · 18/01/2022 15:18

I rang and asked to speak to her manager yesterday afternoon and had no return call, I called again today and hoping she will get back to me.....

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2DogsOnMySofa · 18/01/2022 21:33

Use the phrase 'duty of care' when speaking to her manager .

Philly1234 · 18/01/2022 22:11

Quick question, do you mind me asking how old your dc is? Has dc specifically asked for a copy if said report to be shared with their father?

SkySmiler · 19/01/2022 08:52

I will thank you 2dogs

DC is 8 - has no idea about report

Still no response from her and I got her email address and mailed her myself directly....

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ApolloandDaphne · 19/01/2022 09:20

That sounds awful. I am a retired social worker and I know we would have considered the safety of the child in deciding who reports should go to. I hope the manager responds soon and agree not to send it to your ex.

SkySmiler · 19/01/2022 12:20

It is, the worry it has caused me over the last few days have been awful....

The SW was just doing an assessment based on my own referral to SS and the schools due to DC attendance dropping because of an ongoing medical issue

Still haven't heard from her manager, or her.... which is heightening my anxiety

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Philly1234 · 19/01/2022 12:25

I am also a SW. I suggest that you contact the department. Ask for the email address of the head of service, director of children’s social care and their PA. Send an email to these people’ high priority, explaining your situ. Explain that if you do not receive a response within 24 hours explaining their rationale for sharing said report with dc’s father who does not have PR, and who is a risk to you both, you will be taking this urgently to the Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman.

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