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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

I’ve become the Abusive one.

38 replies

Footgoose · 08/01/2022 11:38

Was reading the “listen up” thread that’s been on The relationship board many many years. It’s referred to as a “stickie” so I assume that means it’s never taken down after the so many days others are removed.
I know my behaviour is inappropriate towards my DH. It’s become less loving and more combative .I’ve posted previously how I feel let down , not supported, that he drinks to much every single day. I do love him, well the version of him that finally wakes up sober in the middle of the morning . By 6pm most nights he’s well on the way to drunk . Often stays in another room on his iPad drinking and playing music whilst I sit alone.
We both work hard but I earn a significantly higher amount than he. I’ve come to the end of my patients with him over just about everything because of his drinking. We clash on just about everything because I don’t feel he listens to me . He wants the final word and decision on everything. All the big decisions have gone his way from what car I drive to what house we should buy. I’m paying most of the money for these things and mostly I’ve been happy to go along with his choices but not anymore. I’m not sure why I’ve had this change in attitude but I do believe it’s to do with the fact that I should get a much bigger say in the life decisions and he needs to start compromising too.

Because he drinks , because he is absolutely set on what he wants he doesn’t listen to me. So now I have to shout to be heard. He talks over me so I raise my voice to talk over him. He’s behaviours in drink have ground me down so now I’m shouting at him daily for this too. Music to loud. TV to loud. Dogs not walked. No dinner when he’s been home all day and I’m at work, his stuff left all over the house instead of being put away, waking me in the middle of the night coming to bed and crashing around then going on his phone which lights up the whole room. I can’t talk to him about it in normal tones. I shout. If I see something isn’t done I shout. I go straight to bloody shouting the minute I open my mouth. I don’t swear apart from the odd “bloody” . I don’t put him down. But I shout all the time. So now I feel abusive.
I had a recent operation , not a small thing but was allowed home the next day with support. I was left unexpectedly on my own by DH ( I get he was in a difficult situation but he decided to leave me alone when he could have done things differently ) I was unable to move easily without help from 9 am to 6pm . When he finally got in I was beside my self. Screaming, crying, raging. I crossed a line and got nasty. Mentally I can’t come back from it. I even went as far as throwing things at a wall. It’s like he finally turned me in a nasty raging abusive lunatic. Only I can’t say that as no one is responsible for my actions other than myself.
I think it’s time I left. I am fortunate to have the money to buy a small house outright and leave him with the home we already have. I would prefer for our marriage to work but can’t see that happening now. I think it’s for his own good I left. I’m not from the same part of the country as he, but I was thinking of just moving a few miles away and seeing how things go. How he responds would be up to him. If after a few years it was clear we are better off apart then I could move again, back to my own home county which is 400 miles away so a decision not easily reversed.
For information. He almost never shouts. He one of the most placid people I know . Just extremely forthright in how he wants things to go his way and drinks so much alcohol we don’t have a life together anymore.
I’ve asked that we go to counselling . He says no. I’ve asked him to reduce his drinking. He says he doesn’t have a problem. He drinks 12 to 15 cans of beer a day / night often not stopping until he passes out on the sofa. He’s in denial because he manages to hold down his job.
So I’ve become an abusive shouty partner who literally yells at DH for everything. I have been blaming my actions on him but I can’t do that anymore and need to take responsibility for all the shouting and now the throwing. It’s not his fault I’m shouting at him, it’s mine as I can’t control it anymore. Financially , he would barely make ends meet without my income and I don’t want to see him struggle so I stay but continue to shout and have all these negative thoughts . If this was the other way around and I was the man in the scenario and DH the woman , he would be getting advice to leave me but probably feels he can’t as he’s financially dependant on me.

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cantseeforlooking · 08/01/2022 13:02

You are me .

I am 2 weeks post leaving and guess what ? He been sober the entire time as he can't do what he needs to do (all the things I just did to save argument) whilst pissed .

Apparently it's been the wake up call he needed but I don't believe a word of it , I am so angry about the life I've been living and now what the future holds for me , I don't recognise myself .

I am shouty , angry , snappy and beyond caring about what happens to him , I'm upset with myself because it's feels at odds with the person I thought I was . I mean , I think I am still a nice, caring and tolerant person but I can't be nice toward him for all the tea in China . It's odd .

I recognised that our relationship was toxic a long time ago , I'm enabled him to be an abusive alcoholic and I'm furious about it . Someone said it because I've felt silenced for so long and now I've finally found my voice I want to shout from the rooftops .

Leave before he shuts you up again . It's no life Thanks

Footgoose · 08/01/2022 13:06

@cantseeforlooking. That made me cry. Thank you for your post . Flowers

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Jennalong · 08/01/2022 13:07

You don't need to leave your house with him remaining . You need to tell him you are done , the house is going on the market , and you can both buy somewhere with the sale of it.

ravenmum · 08/01/2022 13:16

the whole point of taking a step back is for us both to find out if life apart is better
Just seems to me that you could do that more effectively if you get further away from him and thus less enmeshed. And it sounds like you would like to be in your home county? If your children want to visit their alcoholic stepdad then they will be able to do it as often as they like.
If staying would be good for your career then fair enough, but remember that you can and should do things you want. It's not a failure, it's not selfish, it's not more than you deserve.

FabriqueBelgique · 08/01/2022 13:31

This it what happens, you get pushed to breaking point, lose it and think you’re the problem. All classic stuff I’m afraid.

WonderfulYou · 08/01/2022 13:48

I felt my energy draining just reading your post.

Forget about who’s in the wrong and who’s in the right. It doesn’t work.
I agree that it’s time to call it a day and start living and enjoying life.

The sooner you end it the easier it will be.
I think you will both be much happier.

cantseeforlooking · 08/01/2022 14:57

@Footgoose

I won't lie , it's tough and I'm not enjoying this at all but I know it won't last forever , my H is a spiteful sod and has/is making this extremely difficult me but, I'm ok , better than I thought I be and it's a strange feeling to walk around my home freely without trying to keep the peace .

It's sounds like you DH is more passive than mine however that does not mean it is ok still . Alcohol is an addiction and you will never win against someone who thinks they don't have a problem or are unwilling to acknowledge the issue is as big as it is and whilst you are picking up the slack he doesn't need to anyway ! Spell it out to him and then you at least you know you did say it , you did warn him and your moving on(if that's what you decide to do) with a clear conscience.

You are fortunate that you have options, My future is buggered but im still 100% better off than before . Thanks

DatingDinosaur · 08/01/2022 16:10

You're shouting is because you are not being heard. No, not verbally – I’m sure he hears you! He just doesn’t want to listen. Emotionally – he’s not hearing you emotionally.

If you was abusive/controlling him he would be listening to you and changing his ways, and probably doing that out of fear rather than because he wanted to. But he’s not is he? He’s carrying on exactly as he pleases – because it suits HIM.

You’re shouting at him because you’re not getting what you want from a relationship. He is no longer providing the type of relationship you want. If he was, you wouldn’t be shouting. You can’t make him change.

Seeing how he gets on without you will achieve absolutely NOTHING. All you’d be doing is messing with your own mind and torturing yourself. So I say, rather than move nearby to see how that pans out, move back to your home county and don’t look back!

As your children are of uni age, they are adult enough to keep in contact with him if they want to.

There is nothing keeping you in this relationship anymore. You’ve grown apart. You’re both adults. You want a better life than the one you currently have together. Only you can control your life and only he can control his. As far as compatibility goes between you both now? Sounds like never the twain shall meet.

Time to cut your losses and move on.

CruelAndUnusualParenting · 08/01/2022 16:50

In the phrase "functioning alcoholic" the key word is "alcoholic".

You mentioned a car. It sounds as though he is rarely/never under the drink-drive limit. I assume he drives anyway? Would reporting him and having him banned force him to acknowledge the issue? It would certainly make the roads safer, if he does drive.

It can't carry on as it is. Either he needs to recognise he is the problem or you need to leave. Possibly both?

Footgoose · 08/01/2022 18:57

I appreciate all the replies. I’ve tried talking to him today as I have had a few sober hours with him . He is working a night shift tonight so can’t drink. He doesn’t think he has a problem. He knows I’m able to leave but I really do think he believes I just wouldn’t. He hates me shouting. He’s told me often enough . I’ve told him often enough why I shout but we go round in circles. He just doesn’t see his lifestyle choices as a problem for me. Anyway, it was a short conversation as I could literally begin to feel myself ready to start yelling again so I left it. It feels pointless now anyway.

Those who have said by leaving , I will leave behind the part of myself I hate, I hope so because I don’t shout and scream at anything else in my life. My job is very stressful and I can go through the entire day without even a flicker of a feeling that I need to shout or lose control . I have tried to bring that same sense of control home with me but the minute I walk through the door and see the cans piling up I’m already losing the will to even try and be nice. I used to join in with a few glasses of wine to take the edge off but I can’t do that every single night so I leave him to it now. Take myself away in to another room before I literally explode again. I really have turned into the unkindest type of wife. One day I will cook and be nice, the next day I really cannot be bothered to do anything kind at all for him.

For those wondering about drink driving. He manages to avoid this because of his shift patterns . He works 12 shifts a months . 6 of those are night shifts so he doesn’t drink alcohol these days. I don’t get to see the benefit of this obviously. The night before his first night shift he drinks heavily because he doesn’t have to get up early. That leave only 3 days a months when the alcohol levels drop to a reasonable amount but again I don’t get the Benefit of this . Of his 6 day shifts, if he drinks to much the night before he gets a lift which happens about 3 times a month. There is a culture of drinking and it’s an all male environment . I’m sure they cover for each other. This leaves him 18 or 19 days a month to drink as much as he wants. He rarely gets up and dressed before 11am which doesn’t impact on me greatly as I’m at work. He seems to become functioning between the hours of 2 and 4pm and gets a few things done. Then anytime from 4pm onwards the cycle starts again . I get home around 6pm and he’s usually at least 4 to 6 cans in. I’m amazed he’s not dead or depressed. He is actually one of the most laid back contented people I know.

I have an appointment to view a house tomorrow. At least if I’m alone I can’t shout at anyone. It makes me feel sub human the way I’ve become . If he told his family they would be shocked I could be so horrible. It makes me feel so ashamed.

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Ijsbear · 08/01/2022 20:38

You -need- out. It's as simple as that.

Have you acted like this towards anyone else in your life? I'm guessing not. Then even if you're acting badly now - it's because this area of your life really isn't working.

Good luck with the house viewing tomorrow. For your sake and acutally for his, you need to be apart (and I don't mean that nastily, but he has blocked you out sharing life together, and so he's embarked on his own course which doesn't involve you except in as far as you can make his less demanding).

pickingdaisies · 10/01/2022 08:53

Hope the house viewing went well, and at least made the option of leaving feel more "do"able. He hates you shouting, but not enough to actually shape up and do something that would make it stop? Nah, he's not worth the effort. He's certainly not making any

MorrisZapp · 10/01/2022 09:03

Breaking up doesn't mean moving down the road so you can provide support and care. It means the end of your relationship. This man won't change with you in the house, and he won't change with you acting as his mum from up the street.

Your relationship is broken, toxic, and beyond repair. Surely you know you have to end it for your own sake.

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