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BIL not leaving the house for 2 years?

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NorthernLass844 · 28/12/2021 12:40

Can anyone advise on how DH can help / advise his mum about a situation with his brother, who seems to be agoraphobic and hasn't been outside in years? Not sure if anyone who works in social services, or mental health might read this but we are at a loss.

Basically, DH's younger brother is 25 and still lives at home with his Mum (my MIL, divorced, has 4 adult children). DH is 10 years older and we live about 6 hours away so they are not particularly close. At 17 BIL dropped out of 6th form and basically has done nothing since then. At first MIL tried to encourage him to get a part time job in retail but he hated it due to social anxiety. He then went on benefit, but that was stopped after he stopped looking for a job. He now, literally spends everyday all day in his bedroom watching things on his laptop. MIL says it's always the same science fiction animation series. She doesn't think he goes online.

Most worryingly, since 2018 he hasn't been out anywhere, and since the end of 2019 he hasn't set foot out of the house even for a walk. He refuses to do so. MIL has tried to encourage it but he went out less and less and now refuses entirely.

BIL barely speaks and when we visited for Xmas he mumbled hi and that was all I heard him say. MIL made him come downstairs and see DH when we arrived but as soon as he could he went back upstairs and stayed in his room.

MIL cooks him dinner every night and he eats it alone in his room. He goes to bed early and gets up early apparently, but just stays in his room. He doesn't drink or do drugs, has no friends and has never had a relationship.

Due to Covid, DH hadn't seen BIL in person for a couple of years and was shocked at how much he had declined - before he used to come across as painfully shy but now he's just like a lost invisible soul.

Over the years DH has tried to talk to MIL about BIL. He encouraged her to take BIL to the GP some years ago and ask for a referral. MIL says BIL is currently on a waiting list for therapy but BIL doesn't want to do it and so much time has passed.

DH has tried talking to MIL but she seems quite blinkered about how bad it is. She likes having BIL at home and feeling needed, thinks DH.

Anyway after seeing poor BIL over Xmas DH and I would like to try and help him but have no idea of the best next step. It's obviously not our place to stick our noses in but at the same time seeing the situation from a distance means that DH can see how bad things are whereas MIL seems to be oblivious. DH is really worried about BIL, his mental health, his physical health and the future for him. Basically MIL wasn't able to go on holiday this year as she was worried about leaving BIL and what he would do if the house burned down - would he stay inside. So she is essentially his full time carer. However when DH raises this she brushes it off or just says BIL is very shy.

Can anyone suggest anything?

OP posts:
onlychildhamster · 31/12/2021 02:39

My SIL also never used to leave the house. She still hardly leaves the house. What really motivates her is the aforementioned treats, I think. Like during lockdown, when she knew our walk would end in Gail's bakery and DH and I would buy her a bun, she would come. She likes holidays at her grandparents as she gets grandpa's credit card for takeaways and also there is a bigger budget for things she likes there. Bottom line is while she spends a lot of time at home and in her room, she does venture out a reasonable amount of time if it's on her terms and doing things she likes. My MIL always makes her food she likes so that also motivates her to eat with us (so far whenever we visit, she is present). In the past she would only come down to eat at midnight..

DoorWasAJar · 20/05/2023 17:35

onlychildhamster · 31/12/2021 02:34

My SIL also dropped out of college and has no GCSEs but she is able to go out of the house and travel. She is 23. She does eat with us and talk to us. But what worries me and DH is that she doesn't have a job or an inclination to get one (she feels she is working as she writes online and earns a few hundred from that plus claims UC). She also doesn't interact with anyone who isn't family. Her mum doesn't see this as a problem.

OP I have no advice but following this thread in case anyone has any advice. My SIL used to refuse to eat with us too and would often stomp out of the room after 5 minutes cos someone said something that angered her. I find that what helps is treats. If he likes anything, offer to take him out on a treat. DH's sister is so happy when we buy her favourite food, her mum usually can't justify the cost so she really opens up. Also give him things that are 'his', my SIL was territorial about food. I know it's not good to encourage it but I tried to buy her specific items she liked and she felt more included and liked.

I think your SIL has Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. Clonidine can help, apparently. It can help emotional regulation. OP, your BIL should get some medication. Like antidepressants (if they work) or Pregabalin/Gabapentin. People take meds for other mental illnesses, if it’s severe like this, so should anxiety be treated. It’s crippling. Have you talked to him about autism? Try some online questionnaires. Does he have a Sensory Processing Disorder? That can cause severe anxiety and talk therapy/cbt/dbt won’t do anything for this.

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