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How to tell my coercive husband I want to leave- help!

17 replies

Feminista · 08/12/2021 17:59

I've been with DH for 8 years, 2 LO (3 & 8). I feel pregnant when we lived in Scotland and tried to move down south to be with my friends and family because I felt trapped. His neighbours hated him for some reason and he had a string of red letters through the door which for me felt like red flags. He ended up convincing me that we should both move together so we did. I was pregnant and vulnerable.

My relationship has often felt unclear because after my first child I had PND, my mental health and I verbally abusive at that time and it has always been a hot topic when my husband is highlighting my flaws.

Early on he made it really awkward for me to have friends around, he felt too imposing and when they were gone he was rude about them so I just gave up. After the first few awful arguments which felt very wrong I'd tell friends for a frame of reference, staying with him seemed absurd so I just stopped socialising all together. During this time I tried to leave him again and was staying with my friend in Brighton, he admitted he had anger issues and promised to get help but didn't, Stupidly I went back.

When my son was 4 we moved up North because he didn't like city life.

We used to have very explosive arguments, now I just try and keep the peace. I remember when my youngest was 3 months old he started telling me that I needed to go back to work and that his mum thought I was lazy.

He began hoarding really badly, IT equipment everywhere, he expected me to do everything in the house and we would lose whole rooms at a time due to his excessive piles of crap. Our once lovely garden literally is packed full of boxes. Every time I tried to contest this he would tell me to sling my hook and pack my bags despite him keeping me on an allowance of £400 pm and refusing to disclose finances.

In 2020 during me calling him out on his behaviour he told my son he was leaving which was incredibly damaging, we had nothing and I knew he'd got us in trouble by not paying bills buy weirdly felt happy it was finally done. Except it wasn't, he was back the next day. At this point I joined the housing list in secret and contacted Women's Aid. I told him I wanted to separate but he convinced me to do couples counselling. He admitted his methods of control and promised to seek help for his coercive behaviour. He also promised that he would make it safe for me if I ever did want to leave and that we would have financial transparency....as you can probably guess that never happened. We had 3 couples counselling sessions before the therapist said she couldn't work with us because he had admitted his coercive behaviour.

That was last year, since then I sought therapy, unskilled and got a job, the wages are low but it makes me feel strong. He hated this at first and told me how much I was inconveniencing him due to childcare costs and that if I wanted to be an equal I'd need to match his wage. I know now despite my behaviour when I had PND, that he has issues and I believe they are deep rooted in maintaining his family unit no matter how flawed.

I recently bid on a social housing property right by my kids school, it's ideal but I'm still terrified I'm making a mistake. Logically speaking in a normal break up the wife would tell the husband it would be rough but he would provide the necessary funds to make it easy but I don't feel like that will happen and I feel weirdly guilty.

In many ways I feel like a fraud. He isn't beating me, he adores the kids and goes above and beyond for us for material things. The house is fine but there's no flooring and no white goods, while I know I can cover month to month expenses it will cost me at least £2k when I factor in moving vans, flooring and white goods.

I know this is the right thing to do but I feel scared of his reaction and I also feel bad. I have no idea how we will make this move and when to tell him, I know he will be heart broken. Has anyone been in this situation before?

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Feminista · 08/12/2021 18:00

Please excuse my typos!

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stairgates · 08/12/2021 18:05

Do you think he will put in for 50/50 custody of the children?

Feminista · 08/12/2021 18:32

I honestly don't know, if he wanted to it would be out of spite, he works irregular and very long hours and is often away on site. Rationally speaking I'd be open to fair custody arrangements that meant he got to see the kids and they were happy with minimal distraction but it's very hard to tell

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Queenie6655 · 08/12/2021 18:37

@stairgates

Do you think he will put in for 50/50 custody of the children?
Let him try what he wants

Do not allow unsupervised access

Get the heck out

Sorry you have had to put up with this !!!

Been there it's hell

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/12/2021 18:41

You tell him when you have arrived in your new home.Flowers

Madamswearsalot · 08/12/2021 18:47

In your circumstances I would strongly advise you not to tell him you're leaving until you've moved yourself out. I know this doesn't sound practical but there is a history of him persuading you to stay and this time will be no different. You're so close to your new life, do everything you can to get out quickly and safely.

Can you time the move for when he's out for work? And have you got anyone who can help you with the move? Who can be there with you for the whole time so you don't waiver and stop you from being talked out of it?

redastherose · 08/12/2021 18:47

You can usually access a grant to help you get essentials when you get social housing. Contact your local council and explain you are fleeing an abusive marriage with your dc and they will hopefully be able to point you in the right direction.

Woman's Aid may also know who you can contact for assistance with furniture etc as they help lots of women restart their lives in these circumstances.

Don't feel guilty, it's very hard to see the wood from the trees when you are in an abusive relationship. You basically have to be out of it for a while before you can look back and really understand just how awful it was.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/12/2021 18:49

This relationship has always been abusive and he has not and will not change. This is who he is, a coercive controlling individual. He does not have to hit you to hurt you and in turn your children who are seeing all this at first hand too.

Your boundaries here are well skewed by his abuses of you and this will likely take you a long time, years even now, to recover from. Please look at the Freedom Programme, this can be done online.

He will be angry at you rather than heartbroken. Why do you think he will be heartbroken?. Your safety here is of paramount concern, men like this do not like losing control of their chosen target and you need to plan your exit safely. Your children cannot afford to grow up learning that their dad’s behaviour is normal be abuse it is clearly not.

Use Women’s Aid and seek legal advice ASAP re divorce proceedings if you have not already done this. Do not also hesitate to call the police of he kicks off and coercive control is a crime.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/12/2021 18:51

Have a read of this also

survivingeconomicabuse.org/i-need-help/getting-support/grants-benefits-and-financial-help/

Itsalmostanaccessory · 08/12/2021 18:54

Dont tell him. You move first with the kids and then you have a friend/relative tell him and give him your solicitors details. If you really want to speak to him then dont ever do it alone.

There are all sorts of hardship funds and loans available to get you set up with white goods. Women's aid can point you in the right direction for that.

Feminista · 08/12/2021 21:49

Thank you everyone. Reading my post back, I appreciate I sound deluded. I understand how trauma works though and I can't shake the feeling of how much he will be hurt. He doesn't have any friends and this family unit is quite literally his world.

In my mind the kindest thing would be to give him advance notice so that we can amicably discuss plans and work out what arrangements work best for the kids. I purposely chose somewhere near by to ensure minimal disruption. I mean amicable coparenting and minimal disruption seems sensible for the kids right except as some of you have pointed out, it's unlikely to happen.

We sleep in separate rooms and haven't had
sex for nearly a year, on paper this is a failed marriage but I think he enjoys the convenience of having a family under one roof for the rest of the world to see and someone to do the housework. It sucks and it gives me a headache thinking about it, that's not love.

The housing association can offer £200 for paint and I will look at flooring grants in the morning, a hard bare floor just isn't practical. The other thing I'm freaking out about is my tenancy starting and not moving in immediately and then the DWP getting on my back about not moving in immediately, it all seems like such a big hurdle before Christmas. Thank you all for the sound advice, I do want this more than ever...just scared of the inebtween bit x

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/12/2021 22:02

PLEASE do not give him advance warning. It is only likely to ramp up and exacerbate his current level of abuse. Get out first, get safe, get in your new home and then let women's aid guide you through the next steps. Do not give him warning.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/12/2021 22:08

And I want to say as well how brave you are - you are doing exactly the right thing by leaving and have been so brilliant getting everything set up and ready. I'm so impressed. Keep going until you're out before you let on a single thing to him Thanks

RandomMess · 08/12/2021 22:10

You mustn't tell him. Please speak to Woman's Aid they will help with emotional support and practical advice about leaving.

For your own safety you likely need to pack essentials and go.

me4real · 08/12/2021 22:55

Don't tell him OP, he could turn really nasty.

You may be able to get some sort of help towards the white goods too.

Or just start with microwave and ideally fridge at first perhaps, if you really have to, and save for the rest as you go along.

billy1966 · 08/12/2021 23:44

Please do not tell him.

Talk to Women's aid and ask for support.

Do not tell him anything.Flowers

smoko · 09/12/2021 04:54

The socialisation of females means we prioritise being “kind” “nice” “good”

At the end of the day you & your kids’ welfare must come first, rather than being kind to protect an abuser’s feelings

If you tell him beforehand you are risking your emotional & physical security. Your kids need you to be Ok more than they need you to be seen as “kind”

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