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about my parents - please help

17 replies

zaramysaviour · 08/12/2021 02:05

Hi everyone. Long term lurker (cutted up pear etc), rarely post. But I lurk and read here because of the wisdom of so many women – I hope you can help.

I’ll try to be brief, but basically it looks like I’m finally going NC with my parents after years of wanting to. I suppose what I hope from this post is reassurance that I’m not horrible for doing it? And can anyone give any advice or handholding?

It’s long, sorry, so here is a tl;dr:
I’ve had issues with my parents for years – physically and emotionally abusive childhood plus lots of criticism and judgement in adulthood. It all came to a head in August; I didn’t get in touch; today I rang them after a tearful voicemail was left on my phone on Saturday morning. The call went as one would expect in these circumstances, now I want to go full NC.

Obviously you’re only getting my side of things, so I’m trying to put the black and white stuff down:

I was hit and screamed at every day. It was mostly my mum, but my dad did a lot of it too. I have tried since aged 18 to forget about it, but my mum in particular is just… spiteful, and sometimes downright nasty. I’ve felt belittled, criticised and judged by them my whole life.

Mum preferred my older brother (not sibling rivalry, she was the same with grandson versus granddaughters). I was ‘a wee bitch’, a ‘cheeky madam’ etc. When I was 8 or 9 I finally got the courage up to tell her I knew she didn’t love me and preferred my brother. She reassured me. Next day she mocked and challenged me over it at the dinner table.

I’ve been called a slut and a whore by them on several occasions since aged 15. Called fucking useless, called a bitch, a fat bitch, told to ‘get out of my sight’. I was grounded at 14 for carrying a ghetto blaster (ah, the 80s), because I ‘looked like a slut’. Mum gleefully told me one night when I was 19 ‘Your dad thinks you’re a slut!’ because I had asked her advice about condoms.

I was sexually assaulted and almost raped at 29 (only saved by my neighbour kicking the door in). How my parents reacted to it I think is a good illustration of how they think about me and what our relationship is. They love me, they’re proud of me… but only on paper. They offered to fly me home immediately, come to court with me, yet when my mum got drunk a few weeks later, she said it was my own fault because I’m a whore.

I have never been able to tell them about boyfriends – my dad sees a new relationship on my part as my ‘jumping into bed with someone else’.

My mum had/has a difficult marriage. (I don't absolve my dad from blame either.) But she really took it out on me. I literally cried every day from being hit (I remember on my sixth birthday thinking I was a big girl now and shouldn’t cry; I still did.) It wasn’t a ‘tap on the hand after running into traffic’; I’ve spoken to a counsellor who said if I was a child telling him now he would ring social services. My dad let it happen, also hit me, and joined enthusiastically in the slut comments. Our house was like walking on eggshells.

Other little things – snapshots and comments:

18: after getting three As in my A levels while all my friends at 15 had dropped out and were now either pregnant or mothers. Mum – of course, she’s brilliant academically, it’s just a pity she lets herself down in every other way.

9: urine infection, too scared to tell Mum, hit when I wet my knickers

Get out of my sight

Cheeky fucking bitch

Fat bitch

Don’t give her anything to do you know she’s fucking useless

And lots more.

I really can never believe people like me or that I have friends!

It came to a head in August over what would probably seem like a minor row (over my wish to get another tattoo, this time to commemorate a loved one). We haven’t spoken since, but I got a text at the end of November then a voicemail last week asking me to get in touch.

I rang today.

I don’t blame my mother for being defensive and off cuff, but the call just crystallised the issue for me. She picked at chronology (You couldn’t have heard me calling you a fucking wee bitch, because your dates don’t fit), said she’d never called me a slut, and said she was hurt too.

They 'didn’t mean' to hurt me.

But they did.

Advice, please?

OP posts:
BobbieT1999 · 08/12/2021 02:18

What do you think will be achieved by staying in contact with them?

It's normal to have doubts about taking a final action, so it can help to consider things if you took the other option.

You won't be judged here for going NC.

Flowers Flowers

Sparklfairy · 08/12/2021 02:26

Very wise to go NC. I finally did with a relative this year and absolutely will not go back. Like you, there was something that was just the final straw, rather than a series of shitty events (of which there were many and I should have gone NC long ago), but one particular thing pushed me over the edge.

Be prepared for a lot of feelings of grief. Pain, feeling numb, questioning yourself and your own actions. This is simply you grieving for the parents you never had, and you need to let yourself process all the emotions that come.

I've heard that in these situations when they realise you're serious they can try and reel you back in, try everything to get in touch, send other family members to convince you (flying monkeys). Hopefully someone will come along thats been through that as thankfully mine clearly doesn't give a shit so hasn't bothered.

They/she make you miserable. You have no idea how much happier and lighter you will be without them.

Ted27 · 08/12/2021 02:39

Yes they are abusers and they hurt you.

You need to do what they failed to do, which is look after you.
What do you think you would gain by maintaining a relationship with them?What's in it for you? I expect not very much.
It sounds like you have had the courage to move away, well done for doing that. And that's what you build on.
Of course you are not horrible.
You deserve to love and be loved. You matter.
Let them live with the consequences of their behaviour, but don't let them do it to you anymore.
Continue to build a life for yourself filled with people and things that bring joy and positivity to you.
You mentioned a counsellor, I'd keep going.
Good luck, be happy. You deserve that as much as anyone else does.

mrssunshinexxx · 08/12/2021 03:11

So sorry for you, you didn't deserve any of that. Go NC and don't look back

Sweetsaremyfave · 08/12/2021 03:23

Sounds awful. Do they bring anything positive into your life? I think going nc will be a good thing

chatw0o0 · 08/12/2021 03:35

I don't have anything to add - but just wanted to say how awful they sound - and I hope you gain something positive by going NC with them.

Rangoon · 08/12/2021 03:48

If my parents had ever treated me that way I'd absolutely be no contact. They sound abusive and vile and it doesn't seem that they bring anything positive to your life. I hope you have some other people to spend Christmas with and have a happy day.

Buildingthefuture · 08/12/2021 05:17

I could have stopped reading at “I was hit and screamed at everyday” and still thought you were 100% right to go NC. This is horrendous op, I’m sorry you’ve had to go through it,. You were a child, unable to protect or defend yourself and they are utterly in the wrong. As pp have said, they quite obviously bring nothing positive to your life. Cut them off like a gangrenous limb and focus on the work you need to do to get over being treated so badly. For what it’s worth, I am NC with my useless father, after being treated like shit by him for 25+ years. I have never regretted it.

MakeMineAdoubleChocolate · 08/12/2021 05:42

I feel so sorry for you, I am nc with my siblings and my parents too. Due to a rough childhood and a large part of my adult life. I have only been hit a handful of times, but it was neglect, verbal abuse and growing up around alcoholics who cared more about buying vodka and cider than they did about food shopping. They also fought constantly and bring strangers back from the pub, obviously not safe as things happened when I was 7 and my sister 5. I hated it and my siblings also went on to drugs etc and it was pretty horrible. I was attacked, had stuff stolen by a younger sibling so they could feed this habit and even when I was pregnant a sibling sat on my stomach because I refused to give them my phone charger. I tried so many times with one parent, up until 4 years ago, I called it a day I had gone through so much and really it was affecting my wellbeing. I hated my childhood and now I have 5 kids of my own and want to give them the best life.
It really is so difficult and I cannot believe what you went through. You didn't deserve any of it. You are wonderful. And I don't blame you for going or wanting to go nc. What a terrible childhood. I feel so sad when I think of mine hence why I want to give my kids the best. You do what is best for you. Trust in God, he loves you.

Momijin · 08/12/2021 05:57

Oh lovely that sounds horrific. They've been physically and emotionally abusing you since you were tiny. You definitely should go NC. Sending you lots of ((()))

NextChristmas · 08/12/2021 06:05

Hi op. I must say I often think people are over reacting and naval gazing when giving examples of why they want to go no contact. Not in your case. You were abused terribly by the people who were meant to make you feel safe. I would cut contact, tell them precisely why and fucking skip off into the distance delighted I'd never have to see either of them ever again Thanks

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 08/12/2021 06:29

Definitely NC

You don't and didn't deserve any of that, please stop them from continuing it Thanks

NeverRTFT · 08/12/2021 06:29

Was it cathartic to get that all out? I hope so.
None of this is your fault. Go NC and try to get whatever support you can to put yourself back together- counselling etc.
Jewels are forged in fire and pressure. You have no idea how strong you are.
No one has the right to treat you this way.
I'm so sorry to hear about the assault, it sounds terrifying. Not your fault. Sally you were probably a bit vulnerable due to your childhood. I hope the bastard got what they deserved.

Good luck OP. You're not alone. Your history is truly difficult and you are entitled to do whatever you feel is right for you to live your best life now. You owe them nothing Thanks

LivingLegend · 08/12/2021 10:59

NextChristmas, people usually go NC as a very last resort. The “reasons” or incidents people give on MN are usually the tip of the iceberg, and many things are left out through sheer lack of space. Which sometimes makes it difficult for people to understand how emotionally battered people feel by that point.

Inthewainscoting · 08/12/2021 14:06

Put all that "am I a horrible person" stuff on the side for now.

Think about what is likely to happen in different scenarios. What would result for you and the people you have uncomplicated, warm compassionate feelings towards?
What's the least worst scenario?

If it helps, don't phrase it as "NC" - phrase it as "I can't bring myself to talk to them at the moment, it went so badly last time". That moment may well last forever, but you're making it clear that it's not an arbitrary decision, it's something that depends on circumstances.

Sorry they're like this - most likely it's because of their childhood (which is a reason, not an excuse). I certainly wouldn't think ill of you for staying away if you were a friend of mine.

Dacquoise · 08/12/2021 14:18

If you are doubting your perception of this, think about what you would say to a friend who told you that their parents said/did these things to them?

All of it sounds horrendous. You had an awful abusive childhood. They don't deserve your time and attention. You would be better away from them to allow you to heal from their abuse.

zaramysaviour · 09/12/2021 14:24

Thank you all so so much for your kind words. The advice given is just as helpful too - thinking about what they bring to my life and that I don't have to call it NC at this point. I'm still very upset, obviously, but yes, it's been cathartic writing it all down.

I normally lurk on here, mostly because I don't want to dredge up hurtful issues by posting on abuse threads, but if I can pay this forward by helping someone else in similar circumstances I will.

You have all taken time out of your days to send kind words to a stranger - thank you again.

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