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Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 19:03

Might be a long one. I’ve been seeing thing guy from tinder since October, I know not long and I’ve also changed names for this post.

We have both had a very difficult year his wife and partner of 7 years cheated on him and they split up in March. I split up with my partner of 3 years in August after having 3 back to back miscarriages all this year. In hindsight it’s been very quick for both of us given the trauma but I didn’t expect to find someone I genuinely liked so soon. Things were going really well, staying at each other’s houses 1-2 times a week, having chilled Sundays watching films going on nice dates. Having a really good connection. This weekend he came to mine at midnight on Friday (sober and planned) after being out on a day out and stayed until yesterday morning. Was even suggesting going away to Amsterdam In February. I’d been on other dates since my ex and had other guys interested but this is the first time I’ve genuinely started to catch feelings.

His divorce came through last week before we spent the weekend together and I think it stirred up the anger again towards his ex, but then at the weekend he seemed fine again until she apparently put something on social media which his friend sent him a screenshot of and that made him angry again. Up until his divorce coming through things have been great. He has said that he doesn’t feel any romantic feelings towards his ex but hates her for what she did. Which did make me worry slightly because I would prefer him to feel indifference to her.

Then today to cut a long story short he has turned round and said although the has feelings for me because of what’s happened at the weekend it has made him realise he is not ready. He gave me the whole “you deserve 100% and I’m not ready to give you that”, “if we are meant to work out once I am in a better place we can meet up again”- I said to him in response to that that I’m not going to wait around although I have feelings for him I can’t guarantee my head would be in the same place if he came back a bit down the line. I’m just so gutted because normally for me it doesn’t get this far unless it’s going to turn into something, even with my ex I didn’t feel this much of a connection at the start. Before my most recent ex I spent 4 years single meeting crappy men on tinder some of who I would date more than once but nothing where is for this far without turning into something. I’m going to phase out messaging him for now because there’s not a lot else we can say to each other. I know what I need to do which is just try and move on with my life, but I had a barrier up before which is even more so now, and I’m really gutted because I really thought it would lead somewhere with this guy. Anyone else been in this situation and how do I restore my faith in dating? Just for info I’m 29 and no living children and he’s 30 and no children either.

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Rainbowqueeen · 07/12/2021 19:22

Handhold here. It’s never easy
But, very gently, there were alarm bells ringing for me when I saw now recently both your relationships had ended. I’d stay clear of anyone who is not actually divorced

In your situation I would cut contact completely. It will be better for your mental health. Focus on keeping busy and the good things in your life. Best wishes

Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 19:39

@Rainbowqueeen
Thank you. In my situation obviously the miscarriages were traumatic and it didn’t help with the deterioration of my relationship but I think we were drifting apart anyway in hindsight and I’m certain that I’ve no romantic feelings for my ex and we have also kept things on amicable terms (we own a house together which still needs sorting out legally I’m buying him out but mortgage company won’t let me do it til next year) x

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Pinkbonbon · 07/12/2021 19:53

I think he has probably done you a favour in the longrun. (Assuming it's not game playing and he isn't intending to show up again in a few weeks acting as if he is all into it again after you've been all upset).

It sounds messy with his ex. And I'm assuming you've only got his side of the story. If she really cheated and yet has been posting something that upset him on social media then she has a brass neck. Unless it was just something about being relieved about the divorce coming through...and that upset him.

Him 'hating' her is not good either way. That's not someone that should be dating right now.

I think you would be wise to cut all ties incase incase thinks you can be kept dangling.

Sorry this one is a throw back op. But at least you know you can still find likeable people. Hopefully the next one will be likeable and emotionally available.

Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 19:57

It’s just really impacted my already waning faith in men and I really did think we had something good going, how do I know someone else isn’t just going to do the same thing? I don’t get how someone can change their mind so easily.

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Inthesameboatatmo · 07/12/2021 19:59

Handhold from me op .
Wow though it is quite fast that things have happened for you with another guy isn't it. These things happen though but I would let him go and honestly just close the door firmly behind him and keep it closed.

Take time to work on yourself first before you dip your toes in the world of dating again because rushing from one relationship to another you will never heal from anything hun.

Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 20:05

I often find that men do come back, obviously I can’t guarantee that would happen, but if it does how should I react?

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smoko · 07/12/2021 20:09

He left his marriage in march & is divorced by Dec. You broke up with your BF of 4 years in August. You’ve been dating for max 6 weeks.

I can get you’re disappointed but it’s also pretty obvious this was likely to go tits up.

People are allowed to change their minds & it’s understandable he is not over his marriage & it would be understandable for you to still be reeling from your breakup too.

I think you need more time to just be yourself without the added pressure of dating….

Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 20:18

I’m just sad because I really did feel there was a connection. How do I restore my faith in men and dating? And how do I react if he comes back a few months down the line?

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smoko · 07/12/2021 20:23

Not sure what this has to do with men specifically. You hooked up with someone who was separated & in the midst of a divorce just weeks after ending your long term relationship.

What does this have to do with having faith in men specifically?

I would I still my faith in dating by thinking “hey just a mere weeks after ending my relationship I found someone else who felt a connection with. That logically means am likely to meet more people I click with in future .”

I wouldn’t discount that you sound a bit desperate (keen to not be single) & both on the rebound, which will have intensified the relationship & made the connection seem stronger than what it actually was.

Inthesameboatatmo · 07/12/2021 20:25

If he comes back and you've moved on then just tell him. But I wouldn't personally reach out to him at all you will never move on from him ,it will just become a cycle .

Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 20:41

@Inthesameboatatmo it’s hard. I know I’ll be ok and I don’t want to hold on to the idea he might change his mind in case it stops me moving on but equally I can’t shake that I don’t want to just throw away something that seems such a good connection

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Barrierup1 · 07/12/2021 20:48

@smoko I get where you’re coming from. I guess it’s because prior to my ex I was single 4 years and just going on countless failed dates. Lesson learned to not get involved with someone who is going through a divorce.

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Inthesameboatatmo · 07/12/2021 20:58

@Barrierup1. I understand I've been there trust me it's very very hard ,but you are worth more than going back and forth with someone.

Pinkbonbon · 07/12/2021 22:17

@Barrierup1

I’m just sad because I really did feel there was a connection. How do I restore my faith in men and dating? And how do I react if he comes back a few months down the line?
Tbf though op he has been honest with you and called it quits, that's a pretty decent thing to do. Obviously it's not ideal because he got into something and rhen discovered he wasn't ready but we all make mistakes and you were aware he was newly out of something.

He could have bee the sort that strung you along for a few years and acted in a way where you never knew what he truly felt or if you were longterm for him (not to say that isn't what he is attempting atm if he actually seems to expect to remain in your life in some capacity if course).

If he comes back in the near or moderately longterm future- it's game playing. And you tell him to jog on.

If however, he gets in touch in a year or so, maybe you can give it another shot. I don't think I'd bother personally but jts something you could consider.

But if you do, be clear he is all in or all out. And uf he makes you feel insecure or bangs in about the ex or any similar shit, leave.

WindyWindsor · 08/12/2021 11:31

Just don't wait for him OP. You sound like you're fully expecting him to come back to you in a few months and you're going to wait in hope that it happens. Don't put your life on hold. I'd personally stop all contact and carry on. If something happens down the line then so be it but don't let those words that he said to you make you think you should wait for him to come back when he's "ready" because it might never happen.

Pinkdelight3 · 08/12/2021 12:30

It sounds like bad timing. No one's fault so no need to lose faith in him (not as a partner but just as a person muddling through life as we all are) and certainly no need to lose faith in all men. You both knew it was soon after your break-ups but you both felt a connection and gave it a go, but when this latest development happened with his divorce, he was hit with feelings that made it unfair for him to keep going with you and he was honest and communicated that, which is the best he can do in those circumstances. It's very sad for both of you and you absolutely should get hand-holds on here and from friends IRL to get through it, but it's not evidence of anything other than as he said - him not being ready. Perhaps to put a positive spin on it, it's at least shown you that you are ready and so to keep on the look-out in the new year for someone with less baggage. You're at a good age to find guys without the baggage of a divorce but also ready to find 'the one' and settle down, so don't give up hope, but do trust your instincts. As you say, you had a feeling when he hated rather than felt indifference to his ex that he wasn't over it all, which is quite understandable in that timeframe. So take from it that you have good instincts, are ready to find the one, but he wasn't it and definitely not one to take yourself off the market and wait for - another excellent instinct!

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