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next generation suffering as a result......

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mo4p1 · 07/12/2021 18:42

of my and my husbands relationship with his brother and his wife. We are civil we engage when we have too and really we don't see each other bar family occasions with other members of the family around. They live on my husbands family farm and inherited quite a large fortune. We live over 6 hours away and live in a city, both work and my husband travels a lot for work. We have a special needs child who requires treatment abroad so we have spent quite a lot of time in the USA. Both sets of families have children around the same age. More recently my children have heard through other people - its a small world - not nice comments about us. As luck would have it my dd even met someone in her school that knew her cousin recently and her cousin told this girl not nice things about my dd and us, saying we were snobs, thought we were better than we are etc etc. (Ironic considering in monetary terms they are flying it).This set off a series of teasing for my dd at school. Now I honestly dont care what they think of us, because I know in my heart of hearts we have always tryed to be nice, kind to their kids, never forgetting presents from abroad, birthdays, christmas etc. But now that my kids are getting older they see these cousins are really not nice and its effecting family occasions and also its impacting one of my kids in a school that is over 6 hours away from them. My dd really was upset today about the way her cousins treat them and speak about us when really in all reality they don't even know them or us properly. I really feel its gone on long enough the undercurrents of their behaviour and kids learn from example and really my sil has never even been really genuine when we do meet. Its always asking where we get stuff, how much was stuff where are we going??. I know it all sounds so petty and in fact I need to be a grown up here and I just feel enough is enough. My husband wants to say something to his brother to tell him but I know it would kick off a backlash for my husband. Plus my husband is upset with their relationship for years and the way he has been treated. The rest of the family (I always think) and of course I could be wrong, think they are saints and so nice. So if he says something they could turn on my husband and it would upset my mil who is oblivious to it all and never stops praising them. Although I do think sometimes its a case of "they couldn't be that perfect." We see a very different side to this couple and now their kids. I am wondering should I approach them as the mother of kids who are upset and my husband and say actually please cop on, life is short, if you have aproblem with us, tell us and please ask your kids to stop badmouthing our kids to people as we have actually heard it back yes even 6 hours away! Thank you sorry for the venting!

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mo4p1 · 10/12/2021 09:58

Just bumping this up ahead of a family meet up this weekend. Thanks

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 10/12/2021 10:21

"I am wondering should I approach them as the mother of kids who are upset and my husband and say actually please cop on, life is short, if you have a problem with us, tell us and please ask your kids to stop badmouthing our kids to people as we have actually heard it back yes even 6 hours away"

No do not do that, just distance yourselves completely. You already have physical distance and you need to put more mental distance between you and they. I would reconsider attending any future family occasions going forward. Re-evaluate and completely reassess your boundaries here with regards to these people because they know how they behave towards you and they do not care.

Such people as well do not apologise nor accept any responsibility for their actions. You should no longer send their kids anything (were your gifts ever acknowledged and were you otherwise thanked?. Did their parents send presents to your children?) and besides which its not your job anyway to do that. Stop trying with facilitating a relationship that is not there.

re your comment:-
". My husband wants to say something to his brother to tell him but I know it would kick off a backlash for my husband. Plus my husband is upset with their relationship for years and the way he has been treated. The rest of the family (I always think) and of course I could be wrong, think they are saints and so nice"

Let him talk to his brother but it won't do or change anything. The backlash has already happened. Your following sentences written here are key; this is the sort of familial environment he grew up in. The rest of his family have given you the impression they are nice (only to your face, they likely talk about you unfavourably too out of earshot) but they are not nice.

Your DHs parents created this dysfunctional dynamic and it sounds like your BIL and his wife are the "golden" couple (itself a role not without price) along with their children who are "golden" whilst your DH and in turn you people as his family are the scapegoats for all their inherent ills.

mo4p1 · 10/12/2021 11:03

Thank you so much for the post. Honestly your words "Stop trying with facilitating a relationship that is not there." have really resonated with me, We were due to go to a Christmas family get together tomorrow and my kids really don't want to go as do me or my hubby. So you know I am going to talk to hubby today and actually put ourselves first for once and not keep putting our own kids in the firing line or indeed ourselves. You really did hit the nail on the head with your post AttilaTheMeerkat. Thank you.

P.S. Yes presents are not always acknowledged. So now as kids are older thats going to stop too. Why I haven't done this before ........... facilitating a relationship!!! Thank you!

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